SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?

not only did he give taylor that fight by 2 points (115-113)...


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2004-04-10 Cory Spinks W Zab Judah -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 114-112 (spinks)
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1994-01-29 Julio Cesar Chavez L Frankie Randall -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-116 (rhandall)
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2005-12-03 Jermain Taylor W Bernard Hopkins -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (taylor)
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2000-10-07 Paulie Ayala W Johnny Tapia -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (ayala)

I really don't know what fight some of you were watching, this was so obviously a draw or a Taylor win.

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Originally Posted by albsur2006

I really don't know what fight some of you were watching, this was so obviously a draw or a Taylor win.

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SINCE WHEN DOES HITTING SOMEONES GLOVES COUNT AS A CLEAN PUNCH!!?!?!?!?!!! ??? ??? ???

Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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Originally Posted by albsur2006

Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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he didnt run like ODH, he outlanded taylor

what do you call a dog with no legs and steel testicles?












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Originally Posted by albsur2006

Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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Watch the 12th again...Winky was the one landing the punches. Taylor missed & still got the 12th round.

Don't blame it on Winky when it was clearly his round.

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

what do you call a dog with no legs and steel testicles?

sparky

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I voted NO.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

I voted NO.

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i will respect the outcome of the poll

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

I voted NO.

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me too

I voted YES ;) anyone that says Ayala beat Tapia has no business judging ;D

I dont know how Taylor hits Winky once(being generous) in the 12th and gets the 12th. And takes a beating from Bernard in the 12th and still gets the 12th. 12 seems to be Jermain's lucky number.. and thats how much longer he'll b champ. 12 months ;)

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Originally Posted by albsur2006

Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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Backing Winky up? Umm...no he was never backed up. And Winky ran for the last 30 seconds after a dominant two minutes. He won the round, no way it should ever be scored for Taylor.

I had the fight 115-113 Taylor also, Great fight !

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Originally Posted by albsur2006

Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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BULLSHAT!!!!!! put your gloves up and let someone with power hit them....you will move....still doesn't mean the punch landed.....and Winky won that round....

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Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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Watch the 12th again...Winky was the one landing the punches. Taylor missed & still got the 12th round.

Don't blame it on Winky when it was clearly his round.

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I just watched it and you are correct....Winky won that round!!! and the fight!!

seems there is a decent contingency backing the blacklisting thus far

Chuck is old and needs to retire, he clearly got lots of money doing some errand for someone



Boxing needs new pair of good eyesight for judges.



.............or Chuck should have a new one prescribed one before the Winky fight

Winky's guard was consitently broken through. Hence the swelling and being wobbled. Not to metion some massive body shots.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

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Yeah, it was those punches on the gloves that were backing Winky up. Taylor hit gloves a lot but he also landed cleanly and around the ear. Don't blame it on the judge, blame Winky for running like ODLH in the 12th.

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he didnt run like ODH, he outlanded taylor

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CC. Comin from a man who hates both Winky and Taylor nearly equally, Winky deserved at worst a draw and more likely should have gotten the nod by a slight margin. He did clearly out land Taylor in the last round, after watching that 12th round for a second and third time, I have seen it. Originally I thought he was runnin too, but the bias ass commentary made me think that. It was not the case. Both men were very hesitant and Taylor had one good flury, where he barely landed a single clean shot. And hell yes Giampa should be blacklisted, any fuk head who scores the first Spinks vs Judah fight for Spinks knows nothing about boxing.

Professional boxing remains the only major sport in the United States that does not have a strong, centralized association, league, or other regulatory body to establish and enforce uniform rules and practices.

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Originally Posted by tuckwopat

Winky's guard was consitently broken through. Hence the swelling and being wobbled. Not to metion some massive body shots.

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Taylor did hurt Wright. But he occasionally broke through the guard, not conisistently by any means. Body shots never seemed to have any effect. And when your gloves get hit, they can bounce back and hit your face, thus causing some swelling, which is what happened. Also Taylor himself said that if he did ever hurt Wright, he sure didn't show it. I don't usually defend Wright, and it was a damn close fight, but saying his guard was consistently broken through is not accurate.

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Winky's guard was consitently broken through. Hence the swelling and being wobbled. Not to metion some massive body shots.

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Taylor did hurt Wright. But he occasionally broke through the guard, not conisistently by any means. Body shots never seemed to have any effect. And when your gloves get hit, they can bounce back and hit your face, thus causing some swelling, which is what happened. Also Taylor himself said that if he did ever hurt Wright, he sure didn't show it. I don't usually defend Wright, and it was a damn close fight, but saying his guard was consistently broken through is not accurate.

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yeah Winky was able to block a fair share of those punches. I think the majority of the swelling was from unintentional head butts throughout the fight , Classic Orthodox meets Southpaw scenario , it happens. that’s just boxing .

Dalby shirley is another shi£house judge .

I thought to judge a fight you have to be sober,have use of sight or not b on day release from the nuthouse.

some real credence has arrived to the movement of blacklisting this induvidual

FINAL BUMP

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

not only did he give taylor that fight by 2 points (115-113)...


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2004-04-10 Cory Spinks W Zab Judah -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 114-112 (spinks)
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1994-01-29 Julio Cesar Chavez L Frankie Randall -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-116 (rhandall)
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2005-12-03 Jermain Taylor W Bernard Hopkins -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (taylor)
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2000-10-07 Paulie Ayala W Johnny Tapia -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (ayala)

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::** Exactly what about his decision on the Chavez-Randall fight is wrong ??? ::**

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

not only did he give taylor that fight by 2 points (115-113)...


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2004-04-10 Cory Spinks W Zab Judah -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 114-112 (spinks)
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1994-01-29 Julio Cesar Chavez L Frankie Randall -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-116 (rhandall)
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2005-12-03 Jermain Taylor W Bernard Hopkins -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (taylor)
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2000-10-07 Paulie Ayala W Johnny Tapia -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (ayala)

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::** Exactly what about his decision on the Chavez-Randall fight is wrong ??? ::**

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just a very wide margin

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not only did he give taylor that fight by 2 points (115-113)...


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2004-04-10 Cory Spinks W Zab Judah -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 114-112 (spinks)
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1994-01-29 Julio Cesar Chavez L Frankie Randall -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-116 (rhandall)
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2005-12-03 Jermain Taylor W Bernard Hopkins -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (taylor)
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2000-10-07 Paulie Ayala W Johnny Tapia -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (ayala)

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::** Exactly what about his decision on the Chavez-Randall fight is wrong ??? ::**

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just a very wide margin

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Chavez had not one, but TWO points deducted in that fight for low blows, AS WELL as suffering the only knockdown of the fight, and got DOMINATED. If anyone from that fight should be blacklisted, it's Abraham Chavarria, who despite seeing all that, gave CHAVEZ a 114-113 score :o. Giampa scored this fight perfectly.

I don't really think he won the rematch either, to be honest.

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not only did he give taylor that fight by 2 points (115-113)...


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2004-04-10 Cory Spinks W Zab Judah -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 114-112 (spinks)
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1994-01-29 Julio Cesar Chavez L Frankie Randall -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-116 (rhandall)
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2005-12-03 Jermain Taylor W Bernard Hopkins -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (taylor)
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2000-10-07 Paulie Ayala W Johnny Tapia -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (ayala)

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::** Exactly what about his decision on the Chavez-Randall fight is wrong ??? ::**

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just a very wide margin

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Chavez had not one, but TWO points deducted in that fight for low blows, AS WELL as suffering the only knockdown of the fight, and got DOMINATED. If anyone from that fight should be blacklisted, it's Abraham Chavarria, who despite seeing all that, gave CHAVEZ a 114-113 score :o. Giampa scored this fight perfectly.

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thats a decision for you to make, some people feel he scored wright taylor perfectly, this is just well known fights that he had notable scores of

Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

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Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

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Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)

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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

or

Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)

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and those were just the shots he was missing..
what kind of effect do you think the shots that actually landed had on winky?
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

or

Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)

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and those were just the shots he was missing..
what kind of effect do you think the shots that actually landed had on winky?
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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he could have concussed him with 5 punches in one round...

doesnt mean you give him that round if winky landed 9 ;)

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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

or

Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)

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Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of punches. Winky did have his bursts but the majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not win the round

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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

or

Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)

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Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches  , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of  punches. Winky did have his bursts but the  majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not  win the round

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taylor was backing up 90% of the time, without wright coming foreward taylor wouldnt have been throwing as many punches, everytime wright stopped coming in taylor just stood there,


reguardless, that means nothing, you can throw 1000 shots in a round, if you land 1 and your opponent goes 2 for 2 he wins that round...

check it - rounds should be broken into 3 parts. 1st min, 2nd, and the final min, and average that together you get the winner of that round, to many people fall trap to the 30 sec flurries of a 3 min round. Another words Taylor was doing more , Wright fought in spots but for that not enough . . That’s my case. Good Discussion.

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.

Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.

or

Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.

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id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)

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Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of punches. Winky did have his bursts but the majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not win the round

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taylor was backing up 90% of the time, without wright coming foreward taylor wouldnt have been throwing as many punches, everytime wright stopped coming in taylor just stood there,


reguardless, that means nothing, you can throw 1000 shots in a round, if you land 1 and your opponent goes 2 for 2 he wins that round...

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wrong!

if somebody throws two jabs and lands them both in 1 round and the other guy throws 1000 shots a round and lands 1 wicked right cross, then the BUSIER, MORE EFFECTIVE fighter wins.

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