When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....

He's afraid of him....after what he did to him in the amateurs and what he did to oscar before the hop fight...nobody at middle wants to fight him...esp not TAylor...

Let's go FELIX......

I like Felix Sturm. I think he's a good fighter. But it was him, not Taylor who refused the fight.

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I like Felix Sturm. I think he's a good fighter. But it was him, not Taylor who refused the fight.

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True...but you just saw why...& Sturm's camp stated that as the ONLY reason that they would not fight Taylor.

Taylor & Sturm has happened twice already & both have a win over the other. I'd be curious to see the two match up...or even Sturm vs Wright...but Sturm is being lined up for a massive gate against Abraham in Germany.

Sturm probably won't fight stateside for a few years...if ever again.

Nobody wants to work all week long, cash a paycheck, & then have someone steal it before you make a deposit...how you think a boxer feels?

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He's afraid of him....after what he did to him in the amateurs and what he did to oscar before the hop fight...nobody at middle wants to fight him...esp not TAylor...

Let's go FELIX......

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taylor just fought bhop twice and then winky a p4p'er...saying he has no balls is really just hating on him...

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True!!!

was it because of the way they robbed him in the oscar fight...he wants jermain to come over seas right? I wouldn't fight in the us either if i were him....esp the way he killed oscar....now that's how you beat an old fighter..not the crappy give it to the young upstart way the seem to be giving it to taylor...

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was it because of the way they robbed him in the oscar fight...he wants jermain to come over seas right? I wouldn't fight in the us either if i were him....esp the way he killed oscar....now that's how you beat an old fighter..not the crappy give it to the young upstart way the seem to be giving it to taylor...

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Fight over seas? Yeah, US fighters never get robbed over there. It was the Charles Brewer robbery that started Sven Ottke's joke of a reign.

are robberies more frequent over here for the sake of saving a big fight....

LOL

Listen, Sturm is a fine young fighter and I would love a Sturm - TAylor fight. But Taylor fought one of the top P4P fighters in the world and came away with a draw. Taylor is a fighting champion, he isn't ducking anybody. I'm proud of him for fighting Winky so soon and being the better man post fight. He is completely honest and it makes him so likable. IT's impossible for me to hate the guy. It really is. He's VERY good for boxing imo. He has close fights with class competition and he never gets outclassed. He didn't get outclassed tonight. I didn't think he won, but he knows the deal. He should be commended.

Ducking Felix Sturm ::**

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are robberies more frequent over here for the sake of saving a big fight....

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Are robberies over seas more frequent for the sake of making a European fighter champion?

well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

lol, a Roy Jones fan of all people saying someone needs to go overseas and fight. Ya can't make this stuff up ;D ;D ;D

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well it's understandable why roy didn't go overseas..and it's clear why sturm won't come back over here... because they both were robbed on foreign soil...that's understandable..why neither would want to go overseas...roy wouldn't have had a problem if he wasn't traumatized..and felix would return to us if he wasn't robbed by oscar and his judges..

how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Hey. News break. Jermaine says he'd like a few days off to recover from the winky fight but just for you jonesmayweather he'll fight sturm in the streets of memphis tomorrow (sunday) morning. Just for you. ::**

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how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him

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bhop didn't kick his ass the way sturm did..even though it was in the olympics sturm kicked his ass and even dropped him....

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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well he deserved a shot at bhop m,ore than Taylor did, because sturm whooped oscar's ass there was no way that could have been ignored...jermain taylor beat up joppy, who hadn't fought in a year and he gets a shot at bhop? BS...

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Hey. News break. Jermaine says he'd like a few days off to recover from the winky fight but just for you jonesmayweather he'll fight sturm in the streets of memphis tomorrow (sunday) morning. Just for you. ::**

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Dumbass i wasn't talking about next week or tonight....there's no need to dwell on another gift decision for JT..and time to start thinking about his next opponent...

I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.

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Only a fool would make a statement like the above concerning a fighter that they apparently know so little about.

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I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..

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Very well said. Agree 100%

Honestly, what is so fearful of fighting Sturm? Taylor has no problem with fighting Sturm, and INO he won't have Winky/Hopkins problems with sturm

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Honestly, what is so fearful of fighting Sturm? Taylor has no problem with fighting Sturm, and INO he won't have Winky/Hopkins problems with sturm

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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Honestly, what is so fearful of fighting Sturm? Taylor has no problem with fighting Sturm, and INO he won't have Winky/Hopkins problems with sturm

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Haven't been on in awhile. Glad to see you chime in Northside.

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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Olympics means nothing, this is the PROS

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Can't agree there & you can't legitamately support that statement because you haven't delved into Sturm enough to be able to pass that judgement.

Sturm's got a hell of a jab...much like Wright & he's got a damned fine defense. He's a hell of a body banger too.

He's not as crafty as Hopkins...but he's as fast & works the defense & offense just as effectively as Wright does.

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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it means more than you think it does...wasn's it forrest that kept mosely off the olympic team? what happened when they fought as pros?

don't under estimate the mental effects that can have on a fighter..and he floored jermain with head gear on...

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.

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Only a fool would make a statement like the above concerning a fighter that they apparently know so little about.

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Come on Wacko, don't tell me you actually considered Adnan Catic champion for holding the WBO belt. What was Bernard Hopkins than?

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.

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Only a fool would make a statement like the above concerning a fighter that they apparently know so little about.

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Come on Wacko, don't tell me you actually considered Adnan Catic champion for holding the WBO belt. What was Bernard Hopkins than?

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Sure I do.

Sturm has been a champion since 2003 & has held several belts beside the WBO. He's got the WBA's belt currently & he had defended the IBF youth belt along with the WBO's Inter-Continental strap prior to losing his belt to Oscar on a bullshat bid for the Hopkins Super fight.

He's beaten quite a few game middleweights & he's done it with style. Sturm's an impressive prospect of the 160's that deserves the respect & recognition.

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Honestly, what is so fearful of fighting Sturm? Taylor has no problem with fighting Sturm, and INO he won't have Winky/Hopkins problems with sturm

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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it means more than you think it does...wasn's it forrest that kept mosely off the olympic team? what happened when they fought as pros?

don't under estimate the mental effects that can have on a fighter..and he floored jermain with head gear on...

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Tell that to Abdeluev or Kelson Pinto who both beat Cotto in the Amatures!!!!

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.

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I know..but so did roy jones to pak si hun....

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.

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I know..but so did roy jones to pak si hun....

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Sturm really did lose though.

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.

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Now you know that it means shat cuz this is the Pro's

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it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....

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For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.

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Now you know that it means shat cuz this is the Pro's

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.

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Only a fool would make a statement like the above concerning a fighter that they apparently know so little about.

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Come on Wacko, don't tell me you actually considered Adnan Catic champion for holding the WBO belt. What was Bernard Hopkins than?

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Sure I do.

Sturm has been a champion since 2003 & has held several belts beside the WBO. He's got the WBA's belt currently & he had defended the IBF youth belt along with the WBO's Inter-Continental strap prior to losing his belt to Oscar on a bullshat bid for the Hopkins Super fight.

He's beaten quite a few game middleweights & he's done it with style. Sturm's an impressive prospect of the 160's that deserves the respect & recognition.

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Like I said, I like Strum. I think he's a good fighter. And his loss to Oscar was bullshit. But bottom line is Hopkins was the only true champion when Strum had his belt. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor.

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Like I said, I like Strum. I think he's a good fighter. And his loss to Oscar was bullshit. But bottom line is Hopkins was the only true champion when Strum had his belt. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor.

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So do you think that another bullshat loss would be worth $750,000 to Sturm?

Nope. I don't.

Boxers care about their records & Sturm can stay home & make that kind of cash, keeps his record, his belt, & his dignity instead of handing over his new title on a bullshat decision to Taylor.

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Like I said, I like Strum. I think he's a good fighter. And his loss to Oscar was bullshit. But bottom line is Hopkins was the only true champion when Strum had his belt. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor.

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So do you think that another bullshat loss would be worth $750,000 to Sturm?

Nope. I don't.

Boxers care about their records & Sturm can stay home & make that kind of cash, keeps his record, his belt, & his dignity instead of handing over his new title on a bullshat decision to Taylor.

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Does that mean you think Strum would beat Taylor easily?

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Nope. Not at all.

I think that it'd prove to be a great fight...& I do believe that Sturm could beat Taylor...he's done it before.

I just don't see anyone getting a fair shake out of their matches with Taylor since HBO has bet the farm on the kid.

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how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him

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bhop didn't kick his a** the way sturm did..even though it was in the olympics sturm kicked his a** and even dropped him....

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.

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well he deserved a shot at bhop m,ore than Taylor did, because sturm whooped oscar's a** there was no way that could have been ignored...jermain taylor beat up joppy, who hadn't fought in a year and he gets a shot at bhop? BS...

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well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....

taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)

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Dumbass i wasn't talking about next week or tonight....there's no need to dwell on another gift decision for JT..and time to start thinking about his next opponent...

I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..

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So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.

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So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.

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Just out of curiousity...why do you keep using the word HATE?

No one hates Taylor...they just don't think that he should have gotten the win. Big difference in hating someone & discussing the fact that they got a gift decision.

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Nope. Not at all.

I think that it'd prove to be a great fight...& I do believe that Sturm could beat Taylor...he's done it before.

I just don't see anyone getting a fair shake out of their matches with Taylor since HBO has bet the farm on the kid.

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That's good enough for me. I was starting to get annoyed defending Taylor as much as I had too. I don't dislike him, he's just not one of my favorites.

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So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.

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Just out of curiousity...why do you keep using the word HATE?

No one hates Taylor...they just don't think that he should have gotten the win. Big difference in hating someone & discussing the fact that they got a gift decision.

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Taylor didn't get the win it was a draw