Bring back 15 round fights

Does it seem when 15 round championship fights were around there were less controversies, mainly because someone had a better chance of getting knocked out, that things were better and more exciting?

15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Thanks. It's been awhile since I gotten one of those. For some reason I tend to rack up more sc's.

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15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Thanks. It's been awhile since I gotten one of those. For some reason I tend to rack up more sc's.

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That's ok, I nearly got banned once for taking on all of Great Britain.

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15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Thanks. It's been awhile since I gotten one of those. For some reason I tend to rack up more sc's.

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That's ok, I nearly got banned once for taking on all of Great Britain.

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Yeah, they do suck don't they?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Thanks. It's been awhile since I gotten one of those. For some reason I tend to rack up more sc's.

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That's ok, I nearly got banned once for taking on all of Great Britain.

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Yeah, they do suck don't they?

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Actually no I won't say anything bad about the British now, but had a few too many and well the less said the better.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Thanks. It's been awhile since I gotten one of those. For some reason I tend to rack up more sc's.

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That's ok, I nearly got banned once for taking on all of Great Britain.

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Yeah, they do suck don't they?

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Actually no I won't say anything bad about the British now, but had a few too many and well the less said the better.

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Come on. Go ahead and say it. We both know it's true.

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I agree...I like 15 rounders. Sorts the men out from the boys.

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Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

15 round fights should of never been changed to 12. Those extra 3 rounds would change the outcome in alot of fights.

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Exactly. Have a CC

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Thanks. It's been awhile since I gotten one of those. For some reason I tend to rack up more sc's.

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That's ok, I nearly got banned once for taking on all of Great Britain.

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Yeah, they do suck don't they?

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Actually no I won't say anything bad about the British now, but had a few too many and well the less said the better.

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Come on. Go ahead and say it. We both know it's true.

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silly bugger

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Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat

Does it seem when 15 round championship fights were around there were less controversies, mainly because someone had a better chance of getting knocked out, that things were better and more exciting?

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back when safety was not a concern 15 rds was the norm....but since we grew brains and decided to protect the fighters and increase their longevity 12rds is more than enough.....heck why not drop back down to the 8oz gloves again while we're at it.....how about we just go back to unlimited rounds and don't stop until we have someone KO'd or quits....come on people!!!!!!!! 12rds is plenty.............

I like this...in championship bouts...forces the fighters to condition themselves more.

i would like to see 15 rounds back

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

I like this...in championship bouts...forces the fighters to condition themselves more.

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the only difference in 12 and 15 rds is heart not conditioning ....and unrepairable damage to the fighters..... someone has to step in and be the voice of reason.....It will never go back to 15 rds...

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I like this...in championship bouts...forces the fighters to condition themselves more.

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the only difference in 12 and 15 rds is heart not conditioning ....and unrepairable damage to the fighters..... someone has to step in and be the voice of reason.....It will never go back to 15 rds...

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Boxing is hard on a man whether it's 12 rounds or 15 rounds. I know that they did some study about when a boxer takes the most damage and I know that they said it was in the last three rounds but tell that to the guys who fought Tyson back in the day.

It's all relative to whom your opponent is. IMO the study was put forth and the max rounds changed to get all of the activists to back off.

I voted yes.

Two Tactical Fighters need to engage in a war of attrition for the public to pay them any respect ::**

In MAJOR title fights (maybe have the state commission determine what's major or not) then I agree with 15 rounds.

Yes, but only for World Championship fights; which means multiple (major alphabet crap) fights.

But I doubt it will ever happen, indeed sooner or later, the longest bouts will be 10 rounders IMO.

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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO

In MAJOR title fights (maybe have the state commission determine what's major or not) then I agree with 15 rounds.

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Originally Posted by Britkid

Yes, but only for World Championship fights; which means multiple (major alphabet crap) fights.

But I doubt it will ever happen, indeed sooner or later, the longest bouts will be 10 rounders IMO.

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Agree with the both of you 100%. We would have much clearer views in all of Taylor's last 3 fights, Barrera Morales, ODLH Trinidad to name a few. There would be less controversies I believe as its easier to swing a fight one way with bad judgin with less rounds.

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Originally Posted by Britkid

Yes, but only for World Championship fights; which means multiple (major alphabet crap) fights.

But I doubt it will ever happen, indeed sooner or later, the longest bouts will be 10 rounders IMO.

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That would just make boxing a complete joke.

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Originally Posted by Britkid

Yes, but only for World Championship fights; which means multiple (major alphabet crap) fights.

But I doubt it will ever happen, indeed sooner or later, the longest bouts will be 10 rounders IMO.

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That would just make boxing a complete joke.

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Eh...I honestly don't see that happening. I would see a return of the 15 rounders before 10 rounders.

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Yes, but only for World Championship fights; which means multiple (major alphabet crap) fights.

But I doubt it will ever happen, indeed sooner or later, the longest bouts will be 10 rounders IMO.

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That would just make boxing a complete joke.

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Eh...I honestly don't see that happening. I would see a return of the 15 rounders before 10 rounders.

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I don't either. i think it stays at 12

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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO

Eh...I honestly don't see that happening. I would see a return of the 15 rounders before 10 rounders.

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I hope you are right, but I doubt it.

You cannot fit a 15 rounder into a TV hour...

You can a 12 round, and even easier a 10 rounder. Plus if you bring in 10 round World Title fights, you can spin it, by say you are making the sport safer.

Like I stated, I think it is only a matter of time, before the 12 round title fight will be no more. No one thought the 15 rounder would go in the late 70s, then came Mancini/Kim....

The WBC and the BBB of C, began 12 round title fights, and the EBU, WBA and IBF eventually followed suit.

I'd at least like to see 13 or 11 rounds just so there is less chance of a draw

Having 15 round fights again is a horrible idea. Aside from the fact that there is a larger chance of brain damage through longer periods of fighting, the fights slow down dramatically in those late rounds. What I mean is that they become boring. It becomes less of a boxing match and more of a marathon. Why is that a good thing?

i think 12 rounds is just right.

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I'd at least like to see 13 or 11 rounds just so there is less chance of a draw

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Agreed, having an even number of rounds leaves too much chance of a draw occuring, which is just an anti climax for everybody!!

For safety they should bring back same day weighins. Thats the problem at the moment fighters weighing in the day before, dehydrating dangerously to make false weights. Most not being able to hydrate properly, extreme dehydration and it takes the body 4 days to properly hydrate its dangerous in the extreme. The governing bodies should act.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

For safety they should bring back same day weighins. Thats the problem at the moment fighters weighing in the day before, dehydrating dangerously to make false weights. Most not being able to hydrate properly, extreme dehydration and it takes the body 4 days to properly hydrate its dangerous in the extreme. The governing bodies should act.

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This was actually more dangerous because fighters were so dehydrated so close to the fight.

how about 13. it's an extra 3 minutes of fighting but 6 minutes less dangerous than 15, and it's an odd number.

Look at facts it wasnt

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Does it seem when 15 round championship fights were around there were less controversies, mainly because someone had a better chance of getting knocked out, that things were better and more exciting?

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back when safety was not a concern 15 rds was the norm....but since we grew brains and decided to protect the fighters and increase their longevity 12rds is more than enough.....heck why not drop back down to the 8oz gloves again while we're at it.....how about we just go back to unlimited rounds and don't stop until we have someone KO'd or quits....come on people!!!!!!!! 12rds is plenty.............

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I agree. I voted to bring back 15. I always thnk about it when I am watching a close fight. I voted with my heart though. My brain says 15 is too much.

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Look at facts it wasnt

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I think you were replying to me so: Please feel free to point me in the direction of the facts.

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Look at facts it wasnt

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I think you were replying to me so: Please feel free to point me in the direction of the facts.

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Its common sense really.

Knowing they would only have to fight hours later, fighters would d=drop less weight than now. If fighters entered the ring in the state they turn up to weigh ins now, they would never expect themselves to stand up in a strong wind let alone win a fight.

For example look at the pics of Cotto at the weigh in and the fight. You think if it was a same day weigh in Cotto would of turned up like he did for a day before weigh in and try to fight like that only a few hours later. Even in a sport with a high number of uneducated competitors, you wouldnt find many people that would try that.

Tuck the reason they stopped 15 rounders was the fear of dehydration they dropped it to 12 to try and stop it. By doing it they have made it worse, and a bigger danger. Im not going to give a talk on Human anatomy, just trust me, the body cooling system doesnt work when dehydrated, thats the danger all the time Cobras got the right idea. Why is it in top Heavyweight bouts, who take the heavier shots, the damage is lesser than the lesser weight classes, I think its because they dont make weight. Ive seen things you wont beleive

I vote no, can you imagine watching Rahman - Toney for another 3 rounds, talk about painful!!

Here's an idea though, an optional 13th round in title fights that result in a draw.............
only in title fights though

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Here's an idea though, an optional 13th round in title fights that result in a draw.............
only in title fights though

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Been tried, and was not a success in USBA fights (look for DeWitt/Thorton, November 1987). Very dangerous for fighters to warm down waiting for a decision, only then have to fight another round.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003343

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Look at facts it wasnt

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Its common sense really.

Knowing they would only have to fight hours later, fighters would d=drop less weight than now. If fighters entered the ring in the state they turn up to weigh ins now, they would never expect themselves to stand up in a strong wind let alone win a fight.

For example look at the pics of Cotto at the weigh in and the fight. You think if it was a same day weigh in Cotto would of turned up like he did for a day before weigh in and try to fight like that only a few hours later. Even in a sport with a high number of uneducated competitors, you wouldnt find many people that would try that.

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The day before weight in was not to the benefit of opponents, it was for fighters who drained themselves to the very last drop, then had to rehydrate hours before the fight. Please neve rmention common sense, there is no commonality to sense. This makes sense to me, but not you.

If you only have hours to rehydrate, you are bound to be in worse condition.

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Here's an idea though, an optional 13th round in title fights that result in a draw.............
only in title fights though

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Been tried, and was not a success in USBA fights (look for DeWitt/Thorton, November 1987). Very dangerous for fighters to warm down waiting for a decision, only then have to fight another round.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003343

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Valid point, do you always have a window open to boxrec? Your knowledge is friggin amazing..........
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Tuck the reason they stopped 15 rounders was the fear of dehydration they dropped it to 12 to try and stop it. By doing it they have made it worse, and a bigger danger. Im not going to give a talk on Human anatomy, just trust me, the body cooling system doesnt work when dehydrated, thats the danger all the time Cobras got the right idea. Why is it in top Heavyweight bouts, who take the heavier shots, the damage is lesser than the lesser weight classes, I think its because they dont make weight. Ive seen things you wont beleive

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How does dropping the rounds from 15 to 12 hurt fighter hydration. You don't think that a fighter is more hydrated in the 12th than he is the 15th? If it takes an anotomy lesson please give it. I'm a college educated adult, I can handle it. Please explain how this would work.