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Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
Well... I'm going to have to lay off this site and any other boxing site for a few days. I cannot stand the unknowledgeable boxing fans going against the grain for... the sake of going against the grain? I have my favourite fighters, but when it comes to choosing who I think will win, and who won, it comes down to stats. I cheer for my fighter no matter what the stats say, but stats are stats and they decide the winner.
I am able to watch a fight... even one involving my favourites and be unbiased... just keeping track of the stats. How can one watch that fight and in the end say, "yep... Taylor won that." Meanwhile Taylor can only see out of one eye, got outpunched throughout the fight, and once again could be not confident in his 'win'.
Boxing... why the hell do we love it so much when it is so damn corrupt and puts us real fans in a state of disapointment more often then not? When it comes to the score cards, we aren't just left thinking about the statistics... we have to factor in future ppv buys, public image, the overall good for boxing, home-town advantage etc. It is really sad.
Go ahead Taylor lovers... call me a whiner. I would say the same if Taylor beat Winky and Winky got the decision. As much as I like any fighter, I love the sport more.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
well then, run away like winky.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
ahahah winky has the most dramatic fans...hey wait im a winky fan...but i think it was a good decision...it wasn't like vargas at all because that was given to vargas...and this was a draw...not a lost for winky...
IF your a real boxing fan...you'd be mad at winky for not wanting the rematch...tonights fight was great...since your so in to winky you rather just look at it as a robbery...it was winky's fualt for not winning it...he didnt' listen to his corner going into the 12 round...
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by babyboNe
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
ahahah winky has the most dramatic fans...hey wait im a winky fan...but i think it was a good decision...it wasn't like vargas at all because that was given to vargas...and this was a draw...not a lost for winky...
IF your a real boxing fan...you'd be mad at winky for not wanting the rematch...tonights fight was great...since your so in to winky you rather just look at it as a robbery...it was winky's fualt for not winning it...he didnt' listen to his corner going into the 12 round...
I would love to see a rematch of this great fight. Jermaine said yes to winky after the fight but winky said no. so I hope guys like the one who started this thread can re-focus and put the blame where it really goes and that is on winky
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
Your leaving will leave a gaping hole in my heart. I am saddened by saddoboxing's loss.
It was a fight. Fans didn't judge the fight, three judges did. Now if the people of this site had something to do with the outcome, I would understand your drama.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by YounGun
Well... I'm going to have to lay off this site and any other boxing site for a few days. I cannot stand the unknowledgeable boxing fans going against the grain for... the sake of going against the grain? I have my favourite fighters, but when it comes to choosing who I think will win, and who won, it comes down to stats. I cheer for my fighter no matter what the stats say, but stats are stats and they decide the winner.
I am able to watch a fight... even one involving my favourites and be unbiased... just keeping track of the stats. How can one watch that fight and in the end say, "yep... Taylor won that." Meanwhile Taylor can only see out of one eye, got outpunched throughout the fight, and once again could be not confident in his 'win'.
Boxing... why the hell do we love it so much when it is so damn corrupt and puts us real fans in a state of disapointment more often then not? When it comes to the score cards, we aren't just left thinking about the statistics... we have to factor in future ppv buys, public image, the overall good for boxing, home-town advantage etc. It is really sad.
Go ahead Taylor lovers... call me a whiner. I would say the same if Taylor beat Winky and Winky got the decision. As much as I like any fighter, I love the sport more.
Your laying off this site? I never knew you were even on it.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
on your way out we'll point and giggle at you if you don't mind...
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
It was obviously an even fight... punchstats aside... power traded off with numbers.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
I don't pretend to be some massive presence like that of wacko or starr. I'm not saying that my taking a few days will punish the saddo members lol. What I am saying is as a boxing fan, it is impossible to talk sense with those that do not seem to know boxing and like to go against the common opinion for the sake of going against it. Which rounds did Taylor win? And I'd like to see all of the power shots that Taylor landed. I saw plenty of hard shots come off of Winky's gloves... and some power shots that came off of his gloves and grazed Winky... should we judge those punches on their innitial power? Or the power that was present when they actually reached Winky's face?
And I'm not a dramatic Winky fan. I admire his defense being a boxer myself. I think he is good and has worked hard to be where he is today. That being said, I'm no Taylor fan either.
I am willing to bet that the members that you would miss... the likes of wacko, starr, miles etc. will agree with my opinion on this matter.
You guys jumping to these conclusions about me shows how willing you are to make a decision regarding something you know little about.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face.
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"And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face. "
Its been at least 5 months since I have posted here. I check saddoboxing all the time, but I am so busy I have not had the time. But this dude that posted the above statement needed to be replied to.
Put the beer down, get glasses, or simply wake up. This was a clear win for Winky, and he had every "WRIGHT" to walk out of that room after the fight. At no point in the fight did Taylor have control of that fight. he looked like amature night at the sand box, as do most people fighting Winky. It was clear that he was out boxed through the course of the entire fight. I was in a room of Taylor fans watching the fight, and they could not believe he did not loose.
Winky pushed forward the entire fight, at no point in the fight was he hurt or dominated. If your a Taylor fan, its easy to see why you might think he won, or at least had a draw. you spent ALL NIGHT looking for punches that got through, and on the occasional one that got by, probably while winky was laughing at Taylor, you jumped up and said, SEE!!!!
I like both fighters, I prefer winky, and I said to myself, that if Taylor could beat winky, he would be at the top of my list, but it was not even close. it was Christmas time in a Taylor arena.
""And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face.""
thats cute... lol
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by quammi
"And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face. "
Its been at least 5 months since I have posted here. I check saddoboxing all the time, but I am so busy I have not had the time. But this dude that posted the above statement needed to be replied to.
Put the beer down, get glasses, or simply wake up. This was a clear win for Winky, and he had every "WRIGHT" to walk out of that room after the fight. At no point in the fight did Taylor have control of that fight. he looked like amature night at the sand box, as do most people fighting Winky. It was clear that he was out boxed through the course of the entire fight. I was in a room of Taylor fans watching the fight, and they could not believe he did not loose.
Winky pushed forward the entire fight, at no point in the fight was he hurt or dominated. If your a Taylor fan, its easy to see why you might think he won, or at least had a draw. you spent ALL NIGHT looking for punches that got through, and on the occasional one that got by, probably while winky was laughing at Taylor, you jumped up and said, SEE!!!!
I like both fighters, I prefer winky, and I said to myself, that if Taylor could beat winky, he would be at the top of my list, but it was not even close. it was Christmas time in a Taylor arena.
""And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face.""
thats cute... lol
Get over yourself, a draw was a fair result. Seems like a genuine 50/50 split right down the middle with the majority of fans so a draw was fair.
I think Wright walked out just to try and make the result look controversial, as if by cheering and waving before the result will influence opinion. Hopkins did it against Taylor as well, whereas Jermain always looks apprehensive and waits for the verdict.
Pretending your indignant at the result does not mean you won the fight, look at James Toney after the Rahman fight. He moaned like hell saying he was robbed when everybody else thought he had lost clearly.
It's just a way of trying to sway public opinion. It annoyed when Hopkins stooped to it against Taylor and annoys me that Wright is now doing it as well.
It was a very close, very competative fight. A draw was fair.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by YounGun
Well... I'm going to have to lay off this site and any other boxing site for a few days. I cannot stand the unknowledgeable boxing fans going against the grain for... the sake of going against the grain? I have my favourite fighters, but when it comes to choosing who I think will win, and who won, it comes down to stats. I cheer for my fighter no matter what the stats say, but stats are stats and they decide the winner.
I am able to watch a fight... even one involving my favourites and be unbiased... just keeping track of the stats. How can one watch that fight and in the end say, "yep... Taylor won that." Meanwhile Taylor can only see out of one eye, got outpunched throughout the fight, and once again could be not confident in his 'win'.
Boxing... why the hell do we love it so much when it is so damn corrupt and puts us real fans in a state of disapointment more often then not? When it comes to the score cards, we aren't just left thinking about the statistics... we have to factor in future ppv buys, public image, the overall good for boxing, home-town advantage etc. It is really sad.
Go ahead Taylor lovers... call me a whiner. I would say the same if Taylor beat Winky and Winky got the decision. As much as I like any fighter, I love the sport more.
go take a deep breath and we'll see you in a few.....
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by quammi
"And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face. "
Its been at least 5 months since I have posted here. I check saddoboxing all the time, but I am so busy I have not had the time. But this dude that posted the above statement needed to be replied to.
Put the beer down, get glasses, or simply wake up. This was a clear win for Winky, and he had every "WRIGHT" to walk out of that room after the fight. At no point in the fight did Taylor have control of that fight. he looked like amature night at the sand box, as do most people fighting Winky. It was clear that he was out boxed through the course of the entire fight. I was in a room of Taylor fans watching the fight, and they could not believe he did not loose.
Winky pushed forward the entire fight, at no point in the fight was he hurt or dominated. If your a Taylor fan, its easy to see why you might think he won, or at least had a draw. you spent ALL NIGHT looking for punches that got through, and on the occasional one that got by, probably while winky was laughing at Taylor, you jumped up and said, SEE!!!!
I like both fighters, I prefer winky, and I said to myself, that if Taylor could beat winky, he would be at the top of my list, but it was not even close. it was Christmas time in a Taylor arena.
""And i saw a lot of right hands landing flush on winky's face.""
thats cute... lol
Get over yourself, a draw was a fair result. Seems like a genuine 50/50 split right down the middle with the majority of fans so a draw was fair.
I think Wright walked out just to try and make the result look controversial, as if by cheering and waving before the result will influence opinion. Hopkins did it against Taylor as well, whereas Jermain always looks apprehensive and waits for the verdict.
Fightnews Poll
Who won Saturday's middleweight clash between Jermain Taylor and Winky Wright?
Taylor won 26%
It was a draw 31%
Wright won 43%
Fightnews.com
Go place your vote on www.fightnews.com / HBO was supposed to have a place to vote but I don't think they would like the results to be posted on their site.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by YounGun
I don't pretend to be some massive presence like that of wacko or starr. I'm not saying that my taking a few days will punish the saddo members lol. What I am saying is as a boxing fan, it is impossible to talk sense with those that do not seem to know boxing and like to go against the common opinion for the sake of going against it. Which rounds did Taylor win? And I'd like to see all of the power shots that Taylor landed. I saw plenty of hard shots come off of Winky's gloves... and some power shots that came off of his gloves and grazed Winky... should we judge those punches on their innitial power? Or the power that was present when they actually reached Winky's face?
And I'm not a dramatic Winky fan. I admire his defense being a boxer myself. I think he is good and has worked hard to be where he is today. That being said, I'm no Taylor fan either.
I am willing to bet that the members that you would miss... the likes of wacko, starr, miles etc. will agree with my opinion on this matter.
You guys jumping to these conclusions about me shows how willing you are to make a decision regarding something you know little about.
Your not a boxing fan... your a fan boy... stop hating on Taylor he deserved the draw.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by YounGun
I don't pretend to be some massive presence like that of wacko or starr. I'm not saying that my taking a few days will punish the saddo members lol. What I am saying is as a boxing fan, it is impossible to talk sense with those that do not seem to know boxing and like to go against the common opinion for the sake of going against it. Which rounds did Taylor win? And I'd like to see all of the power shots that Taylor landed. I saw plenty of hard shots come off of Winky's gloves... and some power shots that came off of his gloves and grazed Winky... should we judge those punches on their innitial power? Or the power that was present when they actually reached Winky's face?
And I'm not a dramatic Winky fan. I admire his defense being a boxer myself. I think he is good and has worked hard to be where he is today. That being said, I'm no Taylor fan either.
I am willing to bet that the members that you would miss... the likes of wacko, starr, miles etc. will agree with my opinion on this matter.
You guys jumping to these conclusions about me shows how willing you are to make a decision regarding something you know little about.
That was a quick few days
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by Taeth
It was obviously an even fight... punchstats aside... power traded off with numbers.
Good argument there! Ya there are more 'analysts' who say Winky had scored more shots, but on the other hand, there are more who say Taylor had stronger punch. So there, I think in the minds of the judges, they cancelled each other out, if you know what I mean. Simply put, Winky hit Taylor more but Taylor hit harder. I think that's why the decision wasn't so controversial after all.
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Originally Posted by YounGun
Well... I'm going to have to lay off this site and any other boxing site for a few days. I cannot stand the unknowledgeable boxing fans going against the grain for... the sake of going against the grain? I have my favourite fighters, but when it comes to choosing who I think will win, and who won, it comes down to stats. I cheer for my fighter no matter what the stats say, but stats are stats and they decide the winner.
I am able to watch a fight... even one involving my favourites and be unbiased... just keeping track of the stats. How can one watch that fight and in the end say, "yep... Taylor won that." Meanwhile Taylor can only see out of one eye, got outpunched throughout the fight, and once again could be not confident in his 'win'.
Boxing... why the hell do we love it so much when it is so damn corrupt and puts us real fans in a state of disapointment more often then not? When it comes to the score cards, we aren't just left thinking about the statistics... we have to factor in future ppv buys, public image, the overall good for boxing, home-town advantage etc. It is really sad.
Go ahead Taylor lovers... call me a whiner. I would say the same if Taylor beat Winky and Winky got the decision. As much as I like any fighter, I love the sport more.
I very much sympathise with you, mate. I find it hard to not lose my temper on here sometimes.
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
Who is most people? Most people in your house, neighborhood, in your head? Whatever the case was, Winky's corner told him he had the fight in the bag, so he chose not to fight. His fault.
I don't think Taylor won, I think the draw was a good call.
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
Who is most people? Most people in your house, neighborhood, in your head? Whatever the case was, Winky's corner told him he had the fight in the bag, so he chose not to fight. His fault.
I don't think Taylor won, I think the draw was a good call.
Most people who have commented on the fight.
Winky's corner told him that he wins the fight if he wins the last round. I love how you conveniently invented some memory of Dan Birmingham telling Winky to coast.
Taylor was less active that Winky in the last. Care to answer the question: what does that say about Taylor's approach to the 12th, since you're so critical of Winky being gassed in the 12th?
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
Who is most people? Most people in your house, neighborhood, in your head? Whatever the case was, Winky's corner told him he had the fight in the bag, so he chose not to fight. His fault.
I don't think Taylor won, I think the draw was a good call.
Most people who have commented on the fight.
Winky's corner told him that he wins the fight if he wins the last round. I love how you conveniently invented some memory of Dan Birmingham telling Winky to coast.
Taylor was less active that Winky in the last. Care to answer the question: what does that say about Taylor's approach to the 12th, since you're so critical of Winky being gassed in the 12th?
I believe most people who have commented on the fight view the draw as being adequate. I've read about 9 news stories that talk about it being and appropriate draw, and on the poll that I put up on this page, more people believe either Taylor won or it was a draw.
As for inventing something, I might be wrong, but I thought I either heard or read that his corner told him that he had the fight won. Either way, it doesn't matter. Taylor had a flurry in the final round when Winky was content to run when he should have fought. If he was gassed, too bad.
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
Who is most people? Most people in your house, neighborhood, in your head? Whatever the case was, Winky's corner told him he had the fight in the bag, so he chose not to fight. His fault.
I don't think Taylor won, I think the draw was a good call.
Most people who have commented on the fight.
Winky's corner told him that he wins the fight if he wins the last round. I love how you conveniently invented some memory of Dan Birmingham telling Winky to coast.
Taylor was less active that Winky in the last. Care to answer the question: what does that say about Taylor's approach to the 12th, since you're so critical of Winky being gassed in the 12th?
I believe most people who have commented on the fight view the draw as being adequate. I've read about 9 news stories that talk about it being and appropriate draw, and on the poll that I put up on this page, more people believe either Taylor won or it was a draw.
As for inventing something, I might be wrong, but I thought I either heard or read that his corner told him that he had the fight won. Either way, it doesn't matter. Taylor had a flurry in the final round when Winky was content to run when he should have fought. If he was gassed, too bad.
On your poll, 10 people think that Wright won, 7 people belive Taylor won and 7 believe it was a draw. There you go inventing things again.
Also 43% thought Winky won on the HBO poll to, I think, 26% for Taylor and the rest thought it was a draw.
So yes, it seems the majority believe Winky won.
And what does "If he was gassed, too bad" even mean? If he was gassed, that's why he didn't close the show, thus you're being unjustly critical. And we both know that Taylor did almost nothing in the last. Wright landed a few shots and, to most people, won the 12th. Taylor didn't close the show either. Why aren't you criticising him? Or is it like everything else you've said in this thread, and simply convenient for your argument?
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
Who is most people? Most people in your house, neighborhood, in your head? Whatever the case was, Winky's corner told him he had the fight in the bag, so he chose not to fight. His fault.
I don't think Taylor won, I think the draw was a good call.
Most people who have commented on the fight.
Winky's corner told him that he wins the fight if he wins the last round. I love how you conveniently invented some memory of Dan Birmingham telling Winky to coast.
Taylor was less active that Winky in the last. Care to answer the question: what does that say about Taylor's approach to the 12th, since you're so critical of Winky being gassed in the 12th?
I believe most people who have commented on the fight view the draw as being adequate. I've read about 9 news stories that talk about it being and appropriate draw, and on the poll that I put up on this page, more people believe either Taylor won or it was a draw.
As for inventing something, I might be wrong, but I thought I either heard or read that his corner told him that he had the fight won. Either way, it doesn't matter. Taylor had a flurry in the final round when Winky was content to run when he should have fought. If he was gassed, too bad.
On your poll, 10 people think that Wright won, 7 people belive Taylor won and 7 believe it was a draw. There you go inventing things again.
Also 43% thought Winky won on the HBO poll to, I think, 26% for Taylor and the rest thought it was a draw.
So yes, it seems the majority believe Winky won.
And what does "If he was gassed, too bad" even mean? If he was gassed, that's why he didn't close the show, thus you're being unjustly critical. And we both know that Taylor did almost nothing in the last. Wright landed a few shots and, to most people, won the 12th. Taylor didn't close the show either. Why aren't you criticising him? Or is it like everything else you've said in this thread, and simply convenient for your argument?
I'm not inventing shtuff you douche, the combined number of people who either think it was a draw or that Taylor won, outnumbers the people who think Winky won.
It doesn't matter whether he was gassed or whether he just ran for no reason at all, he lost the 12th round regardless.
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
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Originally Posted by jman
well then, run away like winky.
Are you kidding? You mean the Winky who backed Taylor up and forced the fight for 11 rounds?
THen throw it all away at the very end. I guess you could say he was Munsoned.
What are you talking about? it was fatigue. if you hadn't noticed, most people think Winky won the 12th round. What does that say about Taylor's approach to the last round?
Who is most people? Most people in your house, neighborhood, in your head? Whatever the case was, Winky's corner told him he had the fight in the bag, so he chose not to fight. His fault.
I don't think Taylor won, I think the draw was a good call.
Most people who have commented on the fight.
Winky's corner told him that he wins the fight if he wins the last round. I love how you conveniently invented some memory of Dan Birmingham telling Winky to coast.
Taylor was less active that Winky in the last. Care to answer the question: what does that say about Taylor's approach to the 12th, since you're so critical of Winky being gassed in the 12th?
I believe most people who have commented on the fight view the draw as being adequate. I've read about 9 news stories that talk about it being and appropriate draw, and on the poll that I put up on this page, more people believe either Taylor won or it was a draw.
As for inventing something, I might be wrong, but I thought I either heard or read that his corner told him that he had the fight won. Either way, it doesn't matter. Taylor had a flurry in the final round when Winky was content to run when he should have fought. If he was gassed, too bad.
On your poll, 10 people think that Wright won, 7 people belive Taylor won and 7 believe it was a draw. There you go inventing things again.
Also 43% thought Winky won on the HBO poll to, I think, 26% for Taylor and the rest thought it was a draw.
So yes, it seems the majority believe Winky won.
And what does "If he was gassed, too bad" even mean? If he was gassed, that's why he didn't close the show, thus you're being unjustly critical. And we both know that Taylor did almost nothing in the last. Wright landed a few shots and, to most people, won the 12th. Taylor didn't close the show either. Why aren't you criticising him? Or is it like everything else you've said in this thread, and simply convenient for your argument?
I'm not inventing shtuff you douche, the combined number of people who either think it was a draw or that Taylor won, outnumbers the people who think Winky won.
It doesn't matter whether he was gassed or whether he just ran for no reason at all, he lost the 12th round regardless.
I had Winky winning by 115-113 but it could of been draw too,it was great fight and IMO didnt think neather fighter won last round,10-10. What I did not like it was HBO crew it was just simply BS on there part,I did watched again today with mute and fight was great,credit to both Winky and Taylor. I would love to see rematch. ;)
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
i dont get it all the talk about the 12th
what about them other rounds
did it really come down to the last one
or do people wanna ad some excitement
by fooling themselves
its getting so fucking confusing
why cant people just KETFO its much easyier that way
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Re: Hard to be a boxing fan right now...
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Originally Posted by KickboxAmob
i dont get it all the talk about the 12th
what about them other rounds
did it really come down to the last one
or do people wanna ad some excitement
by fooling themselves
its getting so F****** confusing
why cant people just KETFO its much easyier that way
simply put, its all the lemmings that listen to Jim Lampley as if his word was law. Jim said it came down to the 12th round, so thats why there is a mindless discussion on the insignificant 12th round. In my opinon he had the fight won by the 10th. I am not going to say taylor did nothing, but he deffinately left his skills in the locker room. he was CLEARLY frustrated by the 3rd round, and just gave up on his jab all togather. he kep banging away at wink's gloves, and occasinally got through. It wouldnt have mattered if wink or taylor won the last round.
On a side note, I appreciate Jim's point of view, but he just calls fights as HE see's them, rarely as I see them.
