**JT Still a question mark in the division**
Granted I think taylor is a great fighter and he has guts... He has taken on the 2 best fighters hands down in the mwd. I think he is still a question mark due to his constant controvercial victories. Obviously it is due to the skill level of his oposition but he has yet, as champ, to galvinize himself and cement his name @ the top of the sport like hopkins, trinidad, and ODLH have done in the past... I think he had alot to prove before the fight and he has answered no questions after watching it. He is a great fighter and hangs with the greats but he still needs to SHOW ME... I wouldnt call what he did to hopkins and wright "Beating" them. I call it "competing" with them. 8)
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He's held his own with the pound for pound fighters with vastly greater experience and won all 3 bouts .
He's got everybody talking about him i think its a case of the jury being out to lunch and watch this space personally i think those fights will serve him no end of good for the future he could be fighting really shit fighters smashing 6 bells out of them and making the front of ring magazine .
He's still middleweight champ and can still go to another level.
Winky and Bhop and the 2 fighters you dont wanna break through against but he's done it.
Levels.
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CC .... I hear ya... those are my sentiments but I just dont think he is dominating but i guess be's fighting undominatable competition... I don't know... He is the champ... A young inexperienced one @ that who had the ability to hang with thos guys but he hasnt really electified or exited me... He's kinda just there.
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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
He's held his own with the pound for pound fighters with vastly greater experience and won all 3 bouts .
He's got everybody talking about him i think its a case of the jury being out to lunch and watch this space personally i think those fights will serve him no end of good for the future he could be fighting really S*** fighters smashing 6 bells out of them and making the front of ring magazine .
He's still middleweight champ and can still go to another level.
Winky and Bhop and the 2 fighters you dont wanna break through against but he's done it.
Levels.
he didn't win all 3, he drew 1 with Winky.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
He's held his own with the pound for pound fighters with vastly greater experience and won all 3 bouts .
He's got everybody talking about him i think its a case of the jury being out to lunch and watch this space personally i think those fights will serve him no end of good for the future he could be fighting really S*** fighters smashing 6 bells out of them and making the front of ring magazine .
He's still middleweight champ and can still go to another level.
Winky and Bhop and the 2 fighters you dont wanna break through against but he's done it.
Levels.
he didn't win all 3, he drew 1 with Winky.
and lost 1 to Hopkins ;D
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF PROVIDENCE"
CC .... I hear ya... those are my sentiments but I just dont think he is dominating but i guess be's fighting undominatable competition... I don't know... He is the champ... A young inexperienced one @ that who had the ability to hang with thos guys but he hasnt really electified or exited me... He's kinda just there.
Why does everyone like to avoid the fact that not only has Taylor faced 2 guys who are extremely good, but who make EVERYONE they face look bad. It's ridiculous and unrealistic to think ANYONE could, or should be able to just walk through Hopkins and Wright in convincing fashion. Even guys who manage to beat them look bad doing so. Just because Taylor has the belts doesn't mean should be expected to put on a Tyson-Spinks performance every time out, especially when the two opponents in question would look just as bad if they fought each other.
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hokins always retained his title in convincing fashion... I'm just saying im sick of him squeeking by... its anoying
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Hopkins also didn't have 3 consecutive fights against 2 fighters as difficult as Taylor or Wright. Further, when he did fight a fighter like Taylor (being Taylor himself) it didn't really look like he retained his title in convincing fashion did it?
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
He's held his own with the pound for pound fighters with vastly greater experience and won all 3 bouts .
He's got everybody talking about him i think its a case of the jury being out to lunch and watch this space personally i think those fights will serve him no end of good for the future he could be fighting really S*** fighters smashing 6 bells out of them and making the front of ring magazine .
He's still middleweight champ and can still go to another level.
Winky and Bhop and the 2 fighters you dont wanna break through against but he's done it.
Levels.
he didn't win all 3, he drew 1 with Winky.
Sorry record police .
Lets just say he won my heart .
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well @ 41 its a little tough to... Taylor didnt exactly win it convincingly either... Hopkins destroyed trinidad, beat up ODLH, decisioned Joppy, KO'd Echols, Ko'd Johnson...............Need I say more... Thats what im talking about. Thats what a champ does... Not squeek by by the hair on his chiny chin chin every fight 8)
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF PROVIDENCE"
well @ 41 its a little tough to... Taylor didnt exactly win it convincingly either... Hopkins destroyed trinidad, beat up ODLH, decisioned Joppy, KO'd Echols, Ko'd Johnson...............Need I say more... Thats what im talking about. Thats what a champ does... Not squeek by by the hair on his chiny chin chin every fight 8)
Taylor at 160 > all the fighters you mentioned and you know that. And since when is age an excuse for Bernard, considering he's famous for getting better as he get's older ???
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champs should be champs not just hang on... "you know that"
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Then why didn't Bernard do that against Taylor ::**
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like i said taylor won the championship. im not disputing that. i give him his due but i wont go as far as to call him a superstar yet... he is just not an electifying champion... his fights are irritating. I just want to see one fight where he fights a world class opponant that u know the ending to befor u hear Michael Buffer... ::**
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I'd like to see that too. I'd also like to see another fighter take on 3 consecutive fights as difficult as the 3 Jermaine just took ;D ;D ;D
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CC ODLH did it all the time ;D
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cc back. No one's arguing there. The only thing is in one of those 3 fights, Oscar didn't make it to the last bell.
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consecutive opponents for ODLH
trinidad
coley
mosley
gatti
castillejo
vargas
campas
mosley
sturm
hopkins
mayorga
heres a champion
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF PROVIDENCE"
consecutive opponents for ODLH
trinidad
coley
mosley
gatti
castillejo
vargas
campas
mosley
sturm
hopkins
mayorga
heres a champion
sorry man, but I'd hardly call coley, gatti, castillejo, campas, or mayorga 'difficult' fighters, needless to say on the level of BHop or Winky.
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF PROVIDENCE"
consecutive opponents for ODLH
trinidad
coley
mosley
gatti
castillejo
vargascampas
mosley
sturm
hopkinsmayorga
heres a champion
sorry man, but I'd hardly call coley, gatti, castillejo, campas, or mayorga 'difficult' fighters, needless to say on the level of BHop or Winky.
haha...got me... here are the real ones... a tall order
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BUT THAT IS QUITE THE RESUME ;D
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JT IS BULLSHIT. EVERYONE ON HERE SAYS HOPKINS AND WRIGHT ARE ON THERE WAY OUT YET THIS SO CALLED JT IN HIS PRIME CAN ONLY SQUEAK BY WITH THE JUDGES WHO ARE PAID BY HBO AND THE POLITICIANS OF BOXING. HE DIDN'T WIN THOSE 3 FIGHTS AND HE SURE HASN'T EARNED ANY RESPECT. HE WOULD GAIN SOME IF HE WOULD WIN A FIGHT NOT GET THEM HANDED TO HIM ON A SILVER PLATTER
