Floyd is cornered now, must fight Margarito

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Floyd is Cornered Now, Must Fight Margarito
By Scoop Malinowski

...or the world will know he's The $8 million CHICKEN!

Bob Arum has again stepped up and flashed an $8 million dollar offer to Floyd Mayweather to fight WBO Welterweight king Antonio Margarito in Las Vegas on October 7. For Mayweather the offer is bittersweet - because it would be the biggest purse of his career but also the most viciously dangerous fight of his life, one that could very well leave him knocked out cold in front of the entire world.

Mayweather is stuck in a sticky spot. His aspiration to fight Oscar in a big money business fight fell apart. And with that option/escape hatch no longer available, Mayweather again must deal with a proposition we know he does not want to mess with: Mr. Margarito. I say "we" because virtually every boxing insider in the know - including many astute boxing fans - are all well aware of the truth that Mayweather does not want to step in the ring and compete against the mysterious but very formidable Margarito.

The powers-that-be in the world of boxing want Mayweather vs. Margarito now. They are tired of the same old tired fights of Mayweather easily beating outclassed opposition. The powers, like everyone else, understand Margarito is a hungry, strong and relentless champion who is confident he will destroy Floyd. He has the tools and the mentality to give Floyd not only a real fight, but even a dramatic devastating highlight reel defeat. The powers want to see the marvelous talents of Floyd tested and pushed to the limit. The industry is tired of boring, suspenseless glorified sparring exhibitions from Mayweather.

We are soon about to find out if Floyd has the confidence in himself to take on the challenge of Margarito. Or is Floyd a phony chicken champion who would rather take on faded former champions like Vargas or Mosley, or absolutely anybody but Margarito?

It's a classic case of "the bigger they are, the harder they don't want to fall." Mayweather has cultivated a superstar image to the public, carrying himself like an arrogant, conceited champion who is just too damn good for everyone else. And Floyd has convinced much of the world that he is such an extraordinary champion, so marvelously superior to every other fighter that he will gladly fight whoever brings him the most money, it doesn't matter who it is, Floyd will whoop 'em all.

But the presence of Margarito is cracking that facade. Double talk betrays the truth. Floyd's trainer/uncle Roger said earlier this year Floyd would beat Margarito easy. Floyd himself has claimed not to know who Margarito is, then later revised those ignorant comments to that he'd fight him if the money is right, it makes dollars it makes sense, he's average, slow and would be easy work.

Now the money is right. The timing is right. Everything is right.

Mayweather likes to play it off as if his team (Leonard Ellerbe) calls the out of the ring shots, and then he takes care of everything in the ring. But you have to think a guy with an ego like Floyd calls all his own shots, he only hides behind Ellerbe when it suits the situation. Ellerbe said this week Floyd's next fight will be against the Vargas-Mosley winner, Baldomir (if he beats Gatti), Hatton, Cotto and even dropped Margarito's name in for good measure. Ah, they all do the name dropping bit, just to make it look good.

Everyone knows Floyd is not going to make anywhere near $8 million for any of those fights, only Margarito will bring that kind of bounty. (Only Margarito would accept the small short end of about $1 million vs. Floyd, all those other names will want approximately 50%.)

So Mayweather is in a corner now - cornered by Margarito, Arum, HBO, and a bag of $8 million dollars (and that's just the minimum guarantee! Don't discount the value of the Mexican pay-per-view numbers.). The powers that rule boxing want to make Floyd even more philthy rich, they want to pay him $8 million plus to fight Margarito.

If Floyd runs away from Margarito now, he has been exposed. If he ducks Margarito on October 7th in the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas on HBO pay-per-view, Phloyd's a phony. A phake, phony, phalse, phraudulent, phictitious counterpheit champion who is phearful, phrightened and woephully aphraid of Antonio Margarito.

Nobody likes a liar. If Floyd wants to duck Margarito now, at least he should consider confessing the plain truth to the world, "I am aphraid of Antonio Margarito. He's too big, too strong, too fast, too confident, too talented for me. He deserves to be a boxing superstar like me, I just don't have the courage to give him the same opportunities that were given to me."

Then we will respect Floyd for telling the truth. Because the truth is the most valuable commodity on earth, the rest is all garbage.

We know you were lying to us Floyd when you told us you didn't know who Margarito was and that he was nothing special, just slow and average. We'll forgive you, if you step up and be brave like Jermain Taylor who fought Winky when he didn't have to. Be brave like Bernard Hopkins, who fought Taylor when he didn't have to. Be brave like Wladimir Klitschko, who could have ducked Samuel Peter.

Antonio Margarito has paid his dues. He has been avoided for one reason or another by Mosley, Vargas, Wright, Baldomir. He deserves the big money, big spotlight fight as much as - if not more - than any fighter in the world today.

Mayweather has been blessed with and granted the big fight opportunities which he has capitalized on and made himself a world famous superstar. If he doesn't have the class to give the same opportunity to a deserving fighter like Margarito, Mayweather ought to hang his head in shame, put his tail between his legs and leave the sport. Leave the sport to the real champions, the real warriors who aren't afraid to fight the best.

Because nobody respects a phony.

Floyd will continue to say "Who has he fought? Tell him to get another belt" etc. for as long as he can. He'll try waiting for him to lose or something.

If Floyd mans up and takes the fight, that'd be a tough fight just for Margarito's size and strength. And hunger.

Solid post. But I don't think Mayweather is scared of Margarito in the least. The reason he turned down the fight the first time around is because he was trying to land the bout with ODH. 8 million compared to 20 million hmmmmm let me think? Of course he was going to pass up the fight ODH would have been a tougher opponent as well as more money. Now I know we are excited about Margarito and his KO over Kermit Cintron but the way you describe him is a little too much. With hype like this he is going to become overated, we need to see more from him before we give him such high status. There is no doubt that Floyd will take this fight now that ODH is off the table.

This one is bound to raise some debate....should Floyd get it on with Margarito now the DLH fight is now seemingly off for the year?

Hatton isnt ready for Floyd until next year IMO, not after the Collazo fight...and the winner of Baldomir: Gatti....PBF: Gatti 2 anybody? Methinks not...

Is it maybe time for PBF to take the cash and show us once and for all whether Margarito can put up or shut up??

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Solid post. But I don't think Mayweather is scared of Margarito in the least. The reason he turned down the fight the first time around is because he was trying to land the bout with ODH. 8 million compared to 20 million hmmmmm let me think? Of course he was going to pass up the fight ODH would have been a tougher opponent as well as more money. Now I know we are excited about Margarito and his KO over Kermit Cintron but the way you describe him is a little too much. With hype like this he is going to become overated, we need to see more from him before we give him such high status. There is no doubt that Floyd will take this fight now that ODH is off the table.

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These are not neccesarily my opinions...they are opinions from a writer at boxing insider....im trying to stimulate some debate with the article though...

I think he mighta been talking about me.

Either way, I'm not sold completely on Margarito either. I don't think he's a special fighter. But stylistically, with his height, reach, strength, weight he could cause Lil Floyd problems. I think Floyd would rather fight Oscar De La Hoya's, guys who won't necessarily go in and come forward for as long as it takes to bust that ass. It was the same with Judah - layed off after a while. He hasn't taken on a fighter who will definitely come forward and pressure him for 12 since the Castillo fight, IMO. Well, Gatti, but we all knew Floyd was going to tear that ass up.

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I think he mighta been talking about me.

Either way, I'm not sold completely on Margarito either. I don't think he's a special fighter. But stylistically, with his height, reach, strength, weight he could cause Lil Floyd problems. I think Floyd would rather fight Oscar De La Hoya's, guys who won't necessarily go in and come forward for as long as it takes to bust that a**. It was the same with Judah - layed off after a while. He hasn't taken on a fighter who will definitely come forward and pressure him for 12 since the Castillo fight, IMO. Well, Gatti, but we all knew Floyd was going to tear that a** up.

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I will agree with you that it will be his biggest challenge to date for Floyd because Margarito is a big strong guy but I have to put my money on Floyd, he has given me no reason to believe that anybody in that weight class can beat him.

Sure, Floyd's the favourite.

I've never seen the pair together, but I'm sure Margarito pretty much dwarfs Floyd. Or maybe I'm exagerrating. But you can't fault Floyd if he's even a little intimidated my Margarito.

CC Miles,you knew reading that would put a fat smile on my face!!! Now we willsee if Floyd is ducking Tony! There is no one else worth fighting,no one else who makes as much money and IF PBF says who has he fought,than fighting over the hill guys like Vargas and Mosley will look impressive won't it! ::**
It is time for Floyd to truly be challenged against a man who maybe technically lacking but has the power.will,and the sheer amount of leather to beat anyone at 147 including Floyd.PBF will have to be at his best and he CAN win,b ut no one will push him harder@147 than Antonio!!! Let's make the fight Pretty Boy,it's time to fight a TRUE 147 pounder!!!

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CC Miles,you knew reading that would put a fat smile on my face!!! Now we willsee if Floyd is ducking Tony! There is no one else worth fighting,no one else who makes as much money and IF PBF says who has he fought,than fighting over the hill guys like Vargas and Mosley will look impressive won't it! ::**
It is time for Floyd to truly be challenged against a man who maybe technically lacking but has the power.will,and the sheer amount of leather to beat anyone at 147 including Floyd.PBF will have to be at his best and he CAN win,b ut no one will push him harder@147 than Antonio!!! Let's make the fight Pretty Boy,it's time to fight a TRUE 147 pounder!!!

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i think ricky hatton would be a bigger fight, and more money.
but margarito is good as well

This guy's article is dumb.

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CC Miles,you knew reading that would put a fat smile on my face!!! Now we willsee if Floyd is ducking Tony! There is no one else worth fighting,no one else who makes as much money and IF PBF says who has he fought,than fighting over the hill guys like Vargas and Mosley will look impressive won't it! ::**
It is time for Floyd to truly be challenged against a man who maybe technically lacking but has the power.will,and the sheer amount of leather to beat anyone at 147 including Floyd.PBF will have to be at his best and he CAN win,b ut no one will push him harder@147 than Antonio!!! Let's make the fight Pretty Boy,it's time to fight a TRUE 147 pounder!!!

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i think ricky hatton would be a bigger fight, and more money.
but margarito is good as well

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Agreed. Though perhaps not--he certainly didn't make a name for himself in America with that last outing.

Im no Hatton fan but i think he would be a better match up with floyd than Margarito ... Personally i think Mayweather would terrorize Margarito
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1)Margarito throws these loonnnnnnggg sweeping hooks that by the time he got to floyd he will have gotten hit 3 times and would miss.

2) He Slow! compared to floyd he is extremely slow. Yeah he's probably the strongest welter but you cant hurt what u cant catch

3) He tends to get hit ALOT dont under estimate floyds power.

4) Yeah hes a volume puncher BUT again hes SLOW! every punch he throws floyd gonna clock him 3 times

Look. I think that Floyd should hurry up and take the fight. This guy has been saying if it makes dollars it makes sense. Margarito is no Castillo and I think PBF would win easily. People are building Margarito into Tommy Hearns before the Ray Leonard fight. Margarito isn't that good guys. The only problem with fighting Margarito is that when PBF beats Margarito, people will switch tunes and probably be like "yeah, the guy hadn't fought top competition yet" or come up with some excuse to discredit Floyd, even though Floyd was saying it all along just like Gatti. I remember before the Gatti fight, people were like "PBF is gonna get KTFO for saying Gatti is a club fighter" and after PBF won, those same people were like "Gatti didn't have the skills to beat Floyd anyway, this win proves nothing, why did he even take the fight?" If Floyd wins convincingly like he usually always does will he get any credit?

:coolclick: I totally freakin agree

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Look. I think that Floyd should hurry up and take the fight. This guy has been saying if it makes dollars it makes sense. Margarito is no Castillo and I think PBF would win easily. People are building Margarito into Tommy Hearns before the Ray Leonard fight. Margarito isn't that good guys. The only problem with fighting Margarito is that when PBF beats Margarito, people will switch tunes and probably be like "yeah, the guy hadn't fought top competition yet" or come up with some excuse to discredit Floyd, even though Floyd was saying it all along just like Gatti. I remember before the Gatti fight, people were like "PBF is gonna get KTFO for saying Gatti is a club fighter" and after PBF won, those same people were like "Gatti didn't have the skills to beat Floyd anyway, this win proves nothing, why did he even take the fight?" If Floyd wins convincingly like he usually always does will he get any credit?

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I agree totally, it's a lose lose situation for Floyd, critics will never be happy with his accomplishments. Not only did they discredit him in the Gatti fight but they do that for all his fights. Gatti was not his greatest opponent by far. People said that Corrales would KO him and he simply dominated that fight with 5 knockdowns until the corner stepped in. He has had a picture perfect career, his only close bout was against Castillo (1) and people haggle him about that, what else can the man do? And the same people telling him to fight a true WW are the same people who call him little Floyd and saying that he is not a true WW. Floyd is a great fighter, I can't understand why people don't want to give him his credit. If he fights Margarito and beats him people will say that Margarito was not a true test and Floyd should have fought Ricky. It's lonely at the top.

after watching a couple of antonio's fights, i believe PBF is apprehensive to step in the same ring as margarito!

Margarito is as tall as corrales, heavier, stronger, harder puncher, more skilled, RELENTLESS, the guys a machine! he is definetly the most biggest threat for PBF. i mean who would refuse to fight for 8 mil if they knew they could win? lol i wouldn't!!!

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after watching a couple of antonio's fights, i believe PBF is apprehensive to step in the same ring as margarito!

Margarito is as tall as corrales, heavier, stronger, harder puncher, more skilled, RELENTLESS, the guys a machine! he is definetly the most biggest threat for PBF. i mean who would refuse to fight for 8 mil if they knew they could win? lol i wouldn't!!!

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The only reason he turned down 8 million is because he thought he was going to get 20 for the fight against Oscar, last time I checked 20 million dollar payday's are very rare.

if Tony wins then its great for Tony, if Mayweather wins then Tony is overrated and never gets another shot :'(

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

if Tony wins then its great for Tony, if Mayweather wins then Tony is overrated and never gets another shot :'(

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tony losing to mayweather would not make him overrated (mayweather is the consensus best fighter on the planet)
but if tony manages to hang in there with floyd and make it a competitive fight, then his stock will be higher than ever ;)

It all depends on Baldomir beating Gatti, if he doesnt then Margarito and Hatton are the only other options at 147. I think he will wait until July 23 to announce who his opponent is.

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It all depends on Baldomir beating Gatti, if he doesnt then Margarito and Hatton are the only other options at 147. I think he will wait until July 23 to announce who his opponent is.

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That may be true, but it shouldn't be. I don't see any upside in fighting Baldomir. The linear title, I suppose, but I don't think Floyd especially cares about that. Definitely less money than either of the other fights, definitely more criticism for taking an easy fight.

To whoever said it,sorry can't remember who,Hatton fight would not make PBF anywhere near $8mill guranteeed stateside!! No way!! and that's minus PPV money etc etc.

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Im no Hatton fan but i think he would be a better match up with floyd than Margarito ... Personally i think Mayweather would terrorize Margarito
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1)Margarito throws these loonnnnnnggg sweeping hooks that by the time he got to floyd he will have gotten hit 3 times and would miss.

2) He Slow! compared to floyd he is extremely slow. Yeah he's probably the strongest welter but you cant hurt what u cant catch

3) He tends to get hit ALOT dont under estimate floyds power.

4) Yeah hes a volume puncher BUT again hes SLOW! every punch he throws floyd gonna clock him 3 times

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Floyd hurts nothing@147,and if he wears the lighter gloves,he'd probably break his hands so no,I don't think Floyd will hurt Tony no matter how many times he hits and against Cintron,he did not throw those wide looping shots.He throws them when he needs to,it catches the opponenet off guard and Jesus Chavez caught Floyd with big looping rights when Floyd tried to roll him.He's not as slow as you are making out! and if you notice,I don't see PBF being so fleet footed nowadays! Especially not @147!

Like I said,and I am basing this off 1 fight as that is all I have,Hatton is nowehere near ready for Floyd. Also,add to the fact that Margarito is a natural WW and we will see a great fight.Here's hoping Floyd takes it!

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

if Tony wins then its great for Tony, if Mayweather wins then Tony is overrated and never gets another shot :'(

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There would be no shame in losing to a great great fighter like Floyd BUT Tony has to put up a great fight! I have been blowing his trumpet so to speak,for the last year here,so he can't let his fans down!! Also,his style is very exciting to watch,so the exposure will do him good!

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It all depends on Baldomir beating Gatti, if he doesnt then Margarito and Hatton are the only other options at 147. I think he will wait until July 23 to announce who his opponent is.

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That may be true, but it shouldn't be. I don't see any upside in fighting Baldomir. The linear title, I suppose, but I don't think Floyd especially cares about that. Definitely less money than either of the other fights, definitely more criticism for taking an easy fight.

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It's no secret Floyd loves the WBC belt (130,135,140) and Baldomir if he beats Gatti (which will be a sellout croud) will not only retain the 147 version but may be worth more than we think with Judah and Gatti on his resume'. ;)

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It all depends on Baldomir beating Gatti, if he doesnt then Margarito and Hatton are the only other options at 147. I think he will wait until July 23 to announce who his opponent is.

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That may be true, but it shouldn't be. I don't see any upside in fighting Baldomir. The linear title, I suppose, but I don't think Floyd especially cares about that. Definitely less money than either of the other fights, definitely more criticism for taking an easy fight.

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It's no secret Floyd loves the WBC belt (130,135,140) and Baldomir if he beats Gatti (which will be a sellout croud) will not only retain the 147 version but may be worth more than we think with Judah and Gatti on his resume'. ;)

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He'll be worth more, but still not anywhere near as much as Margarito--who's guaranteeing Floyd more than he was guaranteed for Gatti and Judah combined. I for one, think Floyd would be seriously wasting his time with Baldomir and would not pay for it as a PPV. Floyd acknowledged this not too long ago too; I don't know why he's changing his tune now, especially with $8M still on the table.

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It all depends on Baldomir beating Gatti, if he doesnt then Margarito and Hatton are the only other options at 147. I think he will wait until July 23 to announce who his opponent is.

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That may be true, but it shouldn't be. I don't see any upside in fighting Baldomir. The linear title, I suppose, but I don't think Floyd especially cares about that. Definitely less money than either of the other fights, definitely more criticism for taking an easy fight.

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It's no secret Floyd loves the WBC belt (130,135,140) and Baldomir if he beats Gatti (which will be a sellout croud) will not only retain the 147 version but may be worth more than we think with Judah and Gatti on his resume'. ;)

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I see Gatti beating Baldomir and there is sure to be no urgency for PBF: Gatti 2....

Hatton needs to feel himself into the division somewhat more....

So just take the $8m and fight Margarito...sure Margarito is a relatively unknown quantity...

But the P4P no. 1 should rise to these challenges...

How can someone who says that legacy is everything (Floyd) , keep saying that the money is not right for this guy or that guy. He's too great a talent to keep us on hold any longer. He keeps moving up in weight only to fight the most vulnerable champ and keep saying how many titles he's won in different weight classes. That being said, Margarito is not the answer imo. He needs to fight Winky because that is one guy is a serious threat. He mentioned him a while back and I truly believe he realized he put his foot in his mouth so he quickly priced himself out. That doesn't sound like a guy who's trying to establish a great legacy.

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How can someone who says that legacy is everything (Floyd) , keep saying that the money is not right for this guy or that guy. He's too great a talent to keep us on hold any longer. He keeps moving up in weight only to fight the most vulnerable champ and keep saying how many titles he's won in different weight classes. That being said, Margarito is not the answer imo. He needs to fight Winky because that is one guy is a serious threat. He mentioned him a while back and I truly believe he realized he put his foot in his mouth so he quickly priced himself out. That doesn't sound like a guy who's trying to establish a great legacy.

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floyd jumping a couple weight divisions to fight winky would probably not be a very good move........
but if winky were to come down and meet floyd in the middle at jr. welterweight, that would be epic

i think floyd would be wise to have at least 2 or 3 fights at jr. middle to get comfortable with the weight difference, cuz winky is a tall order

mayweather/wright 2008.......... :o

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How can someone who says that legacy is everything (Floyd) , keep saying that the money is not right for this guy or that guy. He's too great a talent to keep us on hold any longer. He keeps moving up in weight only to fight the most vulnerable champ and keep saying how many titles he's won in different weight classes. That being said, Margarito is not the answer imo. He needs to fight Winky because that is one guy is a serious threat. He mentioned him a while back and I truly believe he realized he put his foot in his mouth so he quickly priced himself out. That doesn't sound like a guy who's trying to establish a great legacy.

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floyd jumping a couple weight divisions to fight winky would probably not be a very good move........
but if winky were to come down and meet floyd in the middle at jr. welterweight, that would be epic

i think floyd would be wise to have at least 2 or 3 fights at jr. middle to get comfortable with the weight difference, cuz winky is a tall order

mayweather/wright 2008.......... :o

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Exactly what I'm talking about.

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How can someone who says that legacy is everything (Floyd) , keep saying that the money is not right for this guy or that guy. He's too great a talent to keep us on hold any longer. He keeps moving up in weight only to fight the most vulnerable champ and keep saying how many titles he's won in different weight classes. That being said, Margarito is not the answer imo. He needs to fight Winky because that is one guy is a serious threat. He mentioned him a while back and I truly believe he realized he put his foot in his mouth so he quickly priced himself out. That doesn't sound like a guy who's trying to establish a great legacy.

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floyd jumping a couple weight divisions to fight winky would probably not be a very good move........
but if winky were to come down and meet floyd in the middle at jr. welterweight, that would be epic

i think floyd would be wise to have at least 2 or 3 fights at jr. middle to get comfortable with the weight difference, cuz winky is a tall order

mayweather/wright 2008.......... :o

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Exactly what I'm talking about.

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then you get a cc from me 8)

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if Tony wins then its great for Tony, if Mayweather wins then Tony is overrated and never gets another shot :'(

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tony losing to mayweather would not make him overrated (mayweather is the consensus best fighter on the planet)
but if tony manages to hang in there with floyd and make it a competitive fight, then his stock will be higher than ever ;)

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definitely, Castillo was known to be a good fighter before the Floyd fights but he really made his name in those fights, even though he didn't get the win. Somebody else said that Margarito isn't Castillo and I agree with that, he's bigger but he's not as skilled. But still, its as good a fight as any at welter right now.

IMO Body punches will be the key for Toni.........Toni is not as skilled, fast or gifted as PBF but i think he is smart, strong, hungry and relentless. For some reason i dont think Toni will jump on PBF and throw a thousand punches, what i think he'll try to do is walk PBF to the ropes and bang the body. IMO PBF is open for body punches and i think Toni should go for a relentless body attack.

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IMO Body punches will be the key for Toni.........Toni is not as skilled, fast or gifted as PBF but i think he is smart, strong, hungry and relentless. For some reason i dont think Toni will jump on PBF and throw a thousand punches, what i think he'll try to do is walk PBF to the ropes and bang the body. IMO PBF is open for body punches and i think Toni should go for a relentless body attack.

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I believe this too,and I know Tony is capable of going to body effectively,I mean he hammered and hurt the 170 plus pounds Santos to the body.I believe he will use the jab effectively too.Also,PBF is not as fleet footed as he was@any other weight,I'm not sure why but if that's the case against Toni then again,that's another reason I think he can win plus the fact that Floyd does not appear to have the power to keep him off.

If people have really watched Margarito, they should know he is sloppy and very slow. It doesnt matter how hard he hits, because he wotn be Hitting Flloyd, at least not the way he has all the others.

Flloyds fought big punchers before and alot better opposition that Margarito, Flloyd would make a mess of his face, maybe not stop him, but certainly make a mess of him.

People rely on Margaritos punch to much, but against the P4P #1 he wotn get close to him, and then he wears down gets tired and Flloyd dances around hitting him all over the place.

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If people have really watched Margarito, they should know he is sloppy and very slow. It doesnt matter how hard he hits, because he wotn be Hitting Flloyd, at least not the way he has all the others.

Flloyds fought big punchers before and alot better opposition that Margarito, Flloyd would make a mess of his face, maybe not stop him, but certainly make a mess of him.

People rely on Margaritos punch to much, but against the P4P #1 he wotn get close to him, and then he wears down gets tired and Flloyd dances around hitting him all over the place.

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You guys remember the Corralles fight when Diego tried walking Floyd down all nite and he got Tattooed over and over...Margarito will be in there playing with a Cobra...Period!!! I doubt Floyd is cornered into fighting, if Margarito wuz worth the shit or the money Floyd would spank him

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If people have really watched Margarito, they should know he is sloppy and very slow. It doesnt matter how hard he hits, because he wotn be Hitting Flloyd, at least not the way he has all the others.

Flloyds fought big punchers before and alot better opposition that Margarito, Flloyd would make a mess of his face, maybe not stop him, but certainly make a mess of him.

People rely on Margaritos punch to much, but against the P4P #1 he wotn get close to him, and then he wears down gets tired and Flloyd dances around hitting him all over the place.

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You guys remember the Corralles fight when Diego tried walking Floyd down all nite and he got Tattooed over and over...Margarito will be in there playing with a Cobra...Period!!! I doubt Floyd is cornered into fighting, if Margarito wuz worth the S*** or the money Floyd would spank him

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Im saying Margarito would beat Floyd, but you must remember a few things. Margarito is huge compared to Coralles. Secondly PBF is unknown at this higher divsion....

Lets not go judging things that we just dont know about yet...

Too many unknown variables at play here....one reason why i'd like this fight to take place...

Margarito's alot slower than Gatti and fights much sloppier, I see him getting hit twice as much as Arturo because of it. UD or late stoppage for Mayweather

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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@

If people have really watched Margarito, they should know he is sloppy and very slow. It doesnt matter how hard he hits, because he wotn be Hitting Flloyd, at least not the way he has all the others.

Flloyds fought big punchers before and alot better opposition that Margarito, Flloyd would make a mess of his face, maybe not stop him, but certainly make a mess of him.

People rely on Margaritos punch to much, but against the P4P #1 he wotn get close to him, and then he wears down gets tired and Flloyd dances around hitting him all over the place.

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You guys remember the Corralles fight when Diego tried walking Floyd down all nite and he got Tattooed over and over...Margarito will be in there playing with a Cobra...Period!!! I doubt Floyd is cornered into fighting, if Margarito wuz worth the S*** or the money Floyd would spank him

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Im saying Margarito would beat Floyd, but you must remember a few things. Margarito is huge compared to Coralles. Secondly PBF is unknown at this higher divsion....

Lets not go judging things that we just dont know about yet...

Too many unknown variables at play here....one reason why i'd like this fight to take place...

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I am sure now that Oscars done for the year that this match will get done or maybe Hatton....Finally Floyd will shut up one these guys and all there nuthuggers

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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@

If people have really watched Margarito, they should know he is sloppy and very slow. It doesnt matter how hard he hits, because he wotn be Hitting Flloyd, at least not the way he has all the others.

Flloyds fought big punchers before and alot better opposition that Margarito, Flloyd would make a mess of his face, maybe not stop him, but certainly make a mess of him.

People rely on Margaritos punch to much, but against the P4P #1 he wotn get close to him, and then he wears down gets tired and Flloyd dances around hitting him all over the place.

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You guys remember the Corralles fight when Diego tried walking Floyd down all nite and he got Tattooed over and over...Margarito will be in there playing with a Cobra...Period!!! I doubt Floyd is cornered into fighting, if Margarito wuz worth the S*** or the money Floyd would spank him

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Im saying Margarito would beat Floyd, but you must remember a few things. Margarito is huge compared to Coralles. Secondly PBF is unknown at this higher divsion....

Lets not go judging things that we just dont know about yet...

Too many unknown variables at play here....one reason why i'd like this fight to take place...

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I am sure now that Oscars done for the year that this match will get done or maybe Hatton....Finally Floyd will shut up one these guys and all there fans

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Those are the best options available for Floyd. I hope he takes one. I think the Margarito fight is the most likely though...

To say PBF is going to beat Margarito like he did Gatti is foolish and has no basis on fact whatsoever.Here are some of the variables:

Margarito is a natural WW,something Floyd has not tasted yet.He punches twice as hard as blown up 140 guys like Judah etc

Margarito can use a jab,can work the body and I have heard from Doug Fisher who saw him sparring,that he is very effective at cutting off the ring.

The amount of leather Tony throws,behind the jab could be very effective

One of the main points for me is that PBF,as good as he is,has not been as fast or fleet footed@147 and he does not seem to have much pop at all! To keep Tony off,you need to deter him,can PBF do that?

To whoever compared Diego to Margarito,they have a few similarities but to compare the outcome of the fight is ridiculous.Did you see the fight? Did you see Diego's punch stats?How can compare that to Margarito,I mean did Dieog throw in double digits in more than 3 rounds?

Even the biggest PBF nuthugger will have to admit if he does not figh Tony,he is ducking him,heck I have heard 1 or 2 of his big fans admitting it already IF he doesn't fight Tony,as it will by far and away make him the most money soooo.....

Anyone else?