What are your views on protein supplements and if you like them what kind do you recommend?
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What are your views on protein supplements and if you like them what kind do you recommend?
Creatine
createne is a whole different thing and for a boxer aint necessary....it is used for strength training and for explosive movements and adds on way too much unnecesary water weight.....protein should be the foundation and i take 2 shakes a day....with a good diet of course u can lose great amounts of body fat w/o losing muscle as long as u keep protein intake high...also multivitamin and glutamine are great
Really depends on your diet. and how much you are working out. Also factor in your overall goals . Do I want to lose weight or gain weight ? “ If your not kicking ass in the gym , you do not need all that much maybe just a shake in the morning , , if your pounding out 2 hour sessions then you need more , see what mean? too much protein will just make you fat and have bowel troubles, also can be hard on the liver ! Drink lots of water, and if your lactose intolerant take the capsules because the milk shake thing will double you over faster then a low blow . and the protein shakes without milk taste , well like Sh#t . IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Hope this helps
Yes my routine is now cardio for 1 hour every morning and weights for 1 hour in the afternoon 4-5 days a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
I guess I'm not wailing on the gym so since my primary focus at this time is weight loss, would you say that protein supplements are a bad idea at this point?
Yes, I would stay away from any protein or weight gainer supplements, eat lean meats like Chicken breast, rice and veggies , fish, and keep up a busy workout schedule and you will be in fighting shape in no time at all. , stay away from diet soda, I mean you can have a few but don‘t go crazy as it has lost of salt and will bloat you up. Plus some studies find that artificial sweeteners inhibit metabolism (the burning of fat)- Good luck
Did you just suggest the worst thing a boxer could use for a supplement??Quote:
Originally Posted by Badbub45
Not only is it NOT a protein, but it is used in conjunction with alot of water....Very bad for a Boxer...
Now,
If you want Protein in your diet, I highly suggest getting it from foods you eat....Tuna Fish, Grilled Chicken, etc...
High POroteins and good complex carbs will build muscle and keep you energized just as good as anything..
Protein shakes are good for building, but not for boxers....they tend to put on to much weight...
Good luck with training,
Coach
and if it's fish make sure it's tuna or talapia or a white meat fish...fish like salmon and swordfish are used in muscle building/weight gain....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Read the bit that is sent from the user account of Alex.W it's all about creatine it's actually quite good....
well erm, i was assuming that someone would come up with something like this. this is just a coincidence, but just today, i was reading various posts on a forum that has to do with coronary diseases because my father is having some problems (hopefully it's going to be just a minor operation putting a stent into one of his arteries), so i came up with an article about a 20 year old asking if fitness programme + using proteins could've caused him a heart arithmia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
The cardio-surgeon who answers people these questions answered that there is no way that proteins could be harmful nor for his heart nor for any other organs. in fact he said that these proteins can be quite useful both for people who do sports/fitness and people who aren't so active.
proteins aren't science fiction, if they we're harmful it would have been proved by now.
HOWEVER, bare in mind that everything has it's limits, EVEN proteins.
i'll paste this from a website.
but since we're dealing here with OP who assumingly boxes 3-5 times a week... but please, bare in mind, i wouldn't say that this is what protein does. there is also vast majority of vitamines that can lead to hyper-vitaminosis in excessive use. if you keep everything in limits, you're fine.Quote:
In addition, eating protein at the expense of vegetables, grains and other healthy foods can deprive your body of essential nutrients. Plus, it can cause dehydration because it takes a lot of water to eliminate extra protein.
Excess protein also has been linked to bone loss because the more protein you eat, the more calcium you excrete, for reasons scientists don't fully understand.
A study conducted in 1998 at Creighton University in Omaha, Neb., concluded, however, that people who eat excess protein probably can prevent bone loss by consuming adequate calcium -- or 20 milligrams for every gram of protein. Since bone health depends on a balance of adequate levels of protein and calcium, the best way to avoid bone loss is to eat the right amount of protein for your weight and consume at least 1,000 milligrams of calcium daily.
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Eating too little protein means your body can't perform all the functions for which protein is required, at least not at peak levels. Over time, you may feel tired and sluggish, be more susceptible to illness, and fail to build muscle or improve your athletic performance at the rate you otherwise would. You also may lose bone. At highest risk are women on low-calorie diets (less than 1,200 calories a day), competitive athletes who restrict calories and burn protein instead of fat, and vegans and macrobiotic diners who don't get enough of the amino-acid building blocks needed to synthesize complete proteins.
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...In fact, protein expert Dr. Peter Lemon recently concluded that exercise more than doubles your need for protein.
so it's quite important that you don't just go to the nearest fitness shop and buy the cheapest protein out there. Hopefully people from this forum who use it know which ones are better than the others.Quote:
Too much protein isn't the only problem with the popular high-protein
diets. All there are also loaded with fat, while Dr. Atkins' and Protein
Power are so low in carbs it's hard to fit in enough fruit, vegetables
and whole grains to lose weight healthfully and keep it off.
I drink American Whey protien shakes before and after I lift.
I'm not saying it suits your needs, but I can say that it's a quality product.
www.dpsnutrition.net -- This is where I purchase it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I use whey protein, a couple friends use isopure, I hear that is pretty good. I want to try it myself but I have to finish my tub of whey protein first.
protein simply put is the building blocks for your muscles. when you work out you break down your muscles, and protein is used to rebuild them, in the case of extremely strenuas excersize, bigger and stronger. why protein is an easily digestable form of protein in a large quantity, when you finish working out your muscles crave protein for repair, not feeding them results in little gain in size or strength.
the problem with alot of protein drinks are they contain alot of calories, something a boxer watching his weight doesnt need. if your in the middle/bottom of your weight class and need to get a little heavier to be at the top, then use protein supplements (as long as your of the age and have done your research.
people looking to maintain probabely shouldnt use them (unless they big guysm in which you need protein to keep your muscles from wasting)
people looking to lose are a difficult subject.
protein shakes can be used as great meal replacement, they stimulate your metabloism and stop muscle catabolism, however can put on extra weight/muscle if taken aswell as your daily eating.
Why before hand? Is it just Whey or does it have carbs too?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
No need before hand in my opinion. ;)
There a good idea if you don't want to carry around fresh meat. It's important to keep your body in a positive nitrogen balance before, during and after training. Two amino acids which seem to be important in preventing muscle degradation are glucamine and leucine. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
With Protein Does It Bulk You And Ive Heard It Gives The Shits
I Was Eating Like Protein Bars And Stuff But They Were Nasty So i Stopped Eating them
I Was Eating 2 a day but that was only for like a month but the best one that i tried would have to been the snicker marathons the rest were extremely nastier ;D
No protein supplements don't bulk you - creatine supplements bulk you and can give you the shits. If you take too much protein in your diet for your body to utilise it gets pissed out. :)
Ok Thanks Well See
Ive Heard Differant
Creatine Just Helps Your Muscles To Last Longer
But Protein Is A Major Building Block Of Muscles Cuz Of The Amino Acids So Wouldnt That Mean It Would Build You Quiker???
and most the kids in my Physical Conditioning Class Take Creatine And They Weigh Like 130-145 and are benching like 200-250 And Are Scrawney Were as The Other Kids Using Protein Are Bulked Up And Can still lift alot but they are heavyer for lifting the weights
Just Curious
Any Opinions?
Or Facts
Hey JL sorry if I mislead you. No supplement will do anything on its own. The type of training you do determines what response your body will have. The hormones your body produces have the building or degrading effect on your body depending on your body's inner environment.
If for instance all you do is sets of 1rm's you won't gain mass but you will gain strength but if you do sets 8-10 at 70-80% max you will gain strength and weight because of the growth hormonal response to the exercise.
Another curious thing, you lot must have been breast fed as babies as I've never heard of kids at 130-145lbs lifting 200-250lbs. ;)
well not all of them are repping it, but for most its there max
and alot of the wrestlers are up into 270 :( But I Guess They Also Loose Alot Of Weight