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Super-middle weight propects - the next generation
Seeing as Joe Calzaghe is going to be gunning for 2 mega fights before hanging up the mitts, i pose the question - who will be the next world star?
Librado Andrade
Sex Male
Nationality Mexican
Birth Name Librado Andrade Ornelas
Hometown La Habra, CA, USA
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 4 / 767
Age 27
Height 6' 2
W 23 (17 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 23
Lucian Bute
Sex Male
Nationality Romanian
Alias Le tombeur
Hometown Montreal, QC, Canada
Birthplace Galati, Romania
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 9 / 767
Date of Birth 1980-02-28
Age 26
Reach 27.5''
Stance Southpaw
Height 6' 2
W 17 (15 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 17
Denis Inkin
Sex Male
Nationality Russian
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 5 / 767
Date of Birth 1978-01-07
Age 28
Height 5' 11½
W 28 (21 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 28
Jean Pascal
Nationality Haiti
Hometown Laval, QC, Canada
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 22 / 767
Age 23
Height 5' 11
W 13 (11 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 13
Carl Froch
Nationality British
Alias The Cobra
Hometown Nottingham, England
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 3 / 767
Date of Birth 1977-07-02
Age 28
Stance Orthodox
Height 6' 1
W 19 (15 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 19
Mikkel Kessler
Sex Male
Nationality Danish
Alias Viking Warrior
Hometown Copenhagen, Denmark
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 2 / 767
Age 27
Reach 73”
Height 6' 1
W 37 (28 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 37
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You missed out Peter Manfredo
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Jean Pascal is supposedly going to be the best thing out of the Canada since Lennox Lewis..., but there is also a really good cruiserweight comming out of canada as well.
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watch out for Allan Green too.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
You missed out Peter Manfredo
because he is till crying about paying all that money for Freddy Roach and still losing the second fight with Mora
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Mikkel Kessler
Sex Male
Nationality Danish
Alias Viking Warrior
Hometown Copenhagen, Denmark
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 2 / 767
Age 27
Reach 73”
Height 6' 1
W 37 (28 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 37
Do you realize what you've done?! HERE HE COMES, RUUUUUN!
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Seeing as Joe Calzaghe is going to be gunning for 2 mega fights before hanging up the mitts, i pose the question - who will be the next world star?
Jean Pascal
Nationality  Haiti
Hometown  Laval, QC, Canada
Rated at  Super Middleweight
World Rank  22 / 767
Age  23
Height  5' 11
W 13 (11 ko's)  |  L 0  |  D 0  |  Total 13   
   He made me ill last night on ESPN2.  Once Pascal felt safe in the ring he started to belittle Boone.  Sticking his tounge out.  Shrugging his shoulders with a "is this all you got" look on his face and then unexpectedly (he thought) throwing a punch at Boone.
   The fight went the distance of course.  All that showboating was pointless. 
   Pascal might be the next big thing, but I hope he gets flattened one fine day.
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by bilbo
You missed out Peter Manfredo
because he is till crying about paying all that money for Freddy Roach and still losing the second fight with Mora
Since when has he ever cried about that? He knew he won it and moved on. Why would he cry about paying money to Roach when it was the judges that took that fight from him?
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by bilbo
You missed out Peter Manfredo
because he is till crying about paying all that money for Freddy Roach and still losing the second fight with Mora
Since when has he ever cried about that? He knew he won it and moved on. Why would he cry about paying money to Roach when it was the judges that took that fight from him?
Do you know him? Do you know for a fact he didn't cry? He is mad because with even hiring a top caliber trainer he can't get over the hump. Now go..........
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by bilbo
You missed out Peter Manfredo
because he is till crying about paying all that money for Freddy Roach and still losing the second fight with Mora
Since when has he ever cried about that? He knew he won it and moved on. Why would he cry about paying money to Roach when it was the judges that took that fight from him?
Do you know him? Do you know for a fact he didn't cry? He is mad because with even hiring a top caliber trainer he can't get over the hump. Now go..........
And you know all of this for a fact? How do you know all of this info? Please explain.
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by bilbo
You missed out Peter Manfredo
because he is till crying about paying all that money for Freddy Roach and still losing the second fight with Mora
Since when has he ever cried about that? He knew he won it and moved on. Why would he cry about paying money to Roach when it was the judges that took that fight from him?
Do you know him? Do you know for a fact he didn't cry? He is mad because with even hiring a top caliber trainer he can't get over the hump. Now go..........
And you know all of this for a fact? How do you know all of this info? Please explain.
:lickish:
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[quote=BanZai ]
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
That's hurt's my feelings.
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Re: Super-middle weight propects - the next generation
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Seeing as Joe Calzaghe is going to be gunning for 2 mega fights before hanging up the mitts, i pose the question - who will be the next world star?
Librado Andrade
Sex Male
Nationality Mexican
Birth Name Librado Andrade Ornelas
Hometown La Habra, CA, USA
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 4 / 767
Age 27
Height 6' 2
W 23 (17 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 23
Lucian Bute
Sex Male
Nationality Romanian
Alias Le tombeur
Hometown Montreal, QC, Canada
Birthplace Galati, Romania
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 9 / 767
Date of Birth 1980-02-28
Age 26
Reach 27.5''
Stance Southpaw
Height 6' 2
W 17 (15 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 17
Denis Inkin
Sex Male
Nationality Russian
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 5 / 767
Date of Birth 1978-01-07
Age 28
Height 5' 11½
W 28 (21 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 28
Jean Pascal
Nationality Haiti
Hometown Laval, QC, Canada
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 22 / 767
Age 23
Height 5' 11
W 13 (11 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 13
Carl Froch
Nationality British
Alias The Cobra
Hometown Nottingham, England
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 3 / 767
Date of Birth 1977-07-02
Age 28
Stance Orthodox
Height 6' 1
W 19 (15 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 19
Mikkel Kessler
Sex Male
Nationality Danish
Alias Viking Warrior
Hometown Copenhagen, Denmark
Rated at Super Middleweight
World Rank 2 / 767
Age 27
Reach 73”
Height 6' 1
W 37 (28 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 37
I think these fighters also deserve a mention:
Mundine
Brahmer
Stieglitz
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Re: Super-middle weight propects - the next generation
Jurgen Brahmer got beat in his last fight by Mario Veit?
Veit was KO'd almost instantly by Calzaghe in both their fights if i remember correctly?
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Originally Posted by BanZai
I have been backpacking for almost nine months now and have not been into boxing since early 2006. When I watch these photos I got wondering what happened? The last ting I read on this board by everyone in Jan or Feb was that Lacy would KO this Calsghe inside a few rounds. What happened?
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^haha who's double account is that then? :P ::**
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
^haha who's double account is that then? :P ::**
double account?
Why is no one answering me? When you guys were on Calzaghe’s back almost every single one of you said daily that Calzaghe was a looser and a chicken and ALL of you posted many many times – now, you are you shy, that you said KO3 Lacy and noon of your are grown enough to tell that you were wrong? You are not even able to tell a foreigner that Lacy was a fucking boy and got beat up more than anyone else in the game.
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
Now, in this thread about Lacy and Tarver the same is going on – LACY KO3 says all the very not educated posters – have you not learn anything from the Calzaghe fight or are you just very stupid?
You better hurry ban and delete this post so no one of the regular users feel bad about themselves attacking Calzaghe and hyping Lacy……
Silence is the best thing when you are very very wrong….
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You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
It was the curse of the red, white, and blue trunks. I am sure you've heard of that before.
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by mafiajoey
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Originally Posted by bilbo
You missed out Peter Manfredo
because he is till crying about paying all that money for Freddy Roach and still losing the second fight with Mora
Since when has he ever cried about that? He knew he won it and moved on. Why would he cry about paying money to Roach when it was the judges that took that fight from him?
Do you know him? Do you know for a fact he didn't cry? He is mad because with even hiring a top caliber trainer he can't get over the hump. Now go..........
yo...Joey...take a hike......that mora fight was before the destruction of Pemberton.....come back to the now...quit living in the past.....and I also think Froch is going to dominate as well....
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Originally Posted by An American
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
^haha who's double account is that then? :P ::**
double account?
Why is no one answering me? When you guys were on Calzaghe’s back almost every single one of you said daily that Calzaghe was a looser and a chicken and ALL of you posted many many times – now, you are you shy, that you said KO3 Lacy and noon of your are grown enough to tell that you were wrong? You are not even able to tell a foreigner that Lacy was a F****** boy and got beat up more than anyone else in the game.
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
Now, in this thread about Lacy and Tarver the same is going on – LACY KO3 says all the very not educated posters – have you not learn anything from the Calzaghe fight or are you just very stupid?
You better hurry ban and delete this post so no one of the regular users feel bad about themselves attacking Calzaghe and hyping Lacy……
Silence is the best thing when you are very very wrong….
haha.... go away Royal... I don't see an Lacy fan boys reeling in agony anywere... ::**
(for the record I picked Calzaghe... :-*)
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Originally Posted by An American
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
^haha who's double account is that then? :P ::**
double account?
Why is no one answering me? When you guys were on Calzaghe’s back almost every single one of you said daily that Calzaghe was a looser and a chicken and ALL of you posted many many times – now, you are you shy, that you said KO3 Lacy and noon of your are grown enough to tell that you were wrong? You are not even able to tell a foreigner that Lacy was a F****** boy and got beat up more than anyone else in the game.
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
Now, in this thread about Lacy and Tarver the same is going on – LACY KO3 says all the very not educated posters – have you not learn anything from the Calzaghe fight or are you just very stupid?
You better hurry ban and delete this post so no one of the regular users feel bad about themselves attacking Calzaghe and hyping Lacy……
Silence is the best thing when you are very very wrong….
what ever....here's to your first sc...sorry I couldn't give you one sooner....this is so over and done with......go back to backpacking and granola eating..............
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
It was the curse of the red, white, and blue trunks. I am sure you've heard of that before.
I am proud of Lacy.....I picked Calzaghe to win but I am still proud of him....He fought a great fighter....whats the shame in losing to Calzaghe?.....why bring up old a** topics......afraid that Joe C is done for good?.....already going to the "Remember When" bag?
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
It was the curse of the red, white, and blue trunks. I am sure you've heard of that before.
I am proud of Lacy.....I picked Calzaghe to win but I am still proud of him....He fought a great fighter....whats the shame in losing to Calzaghe?.....why bring up old a** topics......afraid that Joe C is done for good?.....already going to the
"Remember When" bag?
I am proud of Lacy.....I picked Calzaghe to win but I am still proud of him....He fought a great fighter....whats the shame in losing to Calzaghe?.....why bring up old a** topics......afraid that Joe C is done for good?.....already going to the "Remember When" bag?
I am proud of Lacy too beeing able to withstand all of those shots - I were just tired of being said KO3 Lacy as I have been with Lacy for years in the amateurs knowing that he will never break top 10 - yes, in the american mind he will be p4p no. 1 - but for all who knows boxing he will never be anything special as he always looses when he steps outside US
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HAHAHA comedy gold...
facts:
There are no lacy fan boys here
No one thinks that he is p4p the best in the world
Jeff Lacy has only lost outside of America ONCE...
What next... 'Every time Jeff lacy fights Robin Reid he KOs him" "every time Jeff Lacy fights JC he gets schooled" shocking revelations right there... :o
I can't figure out whether there was something in the water when you went hiking for 9 months... if this is a joke... if you are a troll... or if you are Royal...
That fact that Your name is 'An American' and you are going on about foreigners and Lacy fans makes me suspect yo are Royal... but if you are Royal I must say I am impressed that you have no mentioned Kessler yet.
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Originally Posted by An American
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
^haha who's double account is that then? :P ::**
double account?
Why is no one answering me? When you guys were on Calzaghe’s back almost every single one of you said daily that Calzaghe was a looser and a chicken and ALL of you posted many many times – now, you are you shy, that you said KO3 Lacy and noon of your are grown enough to tell that you were wrong? You are not even able to tell a foreigner that Lacy was a F****** boy and got beat up more than anyone else in the game.
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
Now, in this thread about Lacy and Tarver the same is going on – LACY KO3 says all the very not educated posters – have you not learn anything from the Calzaghe fight or are you just very stupid?
You better hurry ban and delete this post so no one of the regular users feel bad about themselves attacking Calzaghe and hyping Lacy……
Silence is the best thing when you are very very wrong….
Royal!!!! Hey how is it going? We have not heard from you in a while. We were starting to get worried that maybe reality had finally set you straight, but I guess not.
Oh and here is your second SC.
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give him some credit... he didn't mention Kessler... :P
I'm sure it all comes back to Kessler though :D
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Originally Posted by An American
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
^haha who's double account is that then? :P ::**
double account?
Why is no one answering me? When you guys were on Calzaghe’s back almost every single one of you said daily that Calzaghe was a looser and a chicken and ALL of you posted many many times – now, you are you shy, that you said KO3 Lacy and noon of your are grown enough to tell that you were wrong? You are not even able to tell a foreigner that Lacy was a F****** boy and got beat up more than anyone else in the game.
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
Now, in this thread about Lacy and Tarver the same is going on – LACY KO3 says all the very not educated posters – have you not learn anything from the Calzaghe fight or are you just very stupid?
You better hurry ban and delete this post so no one of the regular users feel bad about themselves attacking Calzaghe and hyping Lacy……
Silence is the best thing when you are very very wrong….
No one is answering cause your a DUMASS while you were backpacking and pleasureing Moose out in the wild broke back style, everyone gave Calzaghe rightful due and credit!!!!! he did a fantastic job....So go eat some more grizzlybear ass slap nutz and come back as your 15th name this month ROYAL!!!!!!!!!!
1 bad fight does not qualify Lacy to be cast away to land of the misfit toys...
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
HAHAHA comedy gold...
facts:
There are no lacy fan boys here
Hey man speak for yourself I am a Lacy fan and so what he lost.....There was no shame in Losing to Calzaghe,Lacy will be back and will see how he recovers...Plenty greats have been beaten and lived to fight another day so I wish people will chill on Lacy already..
Truth is he will have to start over and string some impressive wins together before he gets elevated again...Thae kids humble and he has alot of heart he has great days still to come in Boxing!!!!
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do you even know what a fan boy is?
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Originally Posted by An American
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
You must be proud Lacy fans……real proud…..
It was the curse of the red, white, and blue trunks. I am sure you've heard of that before.
I am proud of Lacy.....I picked Calzaghe to win but I am still proud of him....He fought a great fighter....whats the shame in losing to Calzaghe?.....why bring up old a** topics......afraid that Joe C is done for good?.....already going to the
"Remember When" bag?
I am proud of Lacy.....I picked Calzaghe to win but I am still proud of him....He fought a great fighter....whats the shame in losing to Calzaghe?.....why bring up old a** topics......afraid that Joe C is done for good?.....already going to the "Remember When" bag?
I am proud of Lacy too beeing able to withstand all of those shots - I were just tired of being said KO3 Lacy as I have been with Lacy for years in the amateurs knowing that he will never break top 10 - yes, in the american mind he will be p4p no. 1 - but for all who knows boxing he will never be anything special as he always looses when he steps outside US
This guy Royal, I mean An American has problems. I don't know why he is so frustrated, lack of women (or men), too much liquor (or not enough liquor), heroin, no body to love him, or maybe you just a nutcase for the fun of it, who knows.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you even know what a fan boy is?
Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it dosen't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!
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you know if you read this thread... its funny... Royal is basically argueing with himself... its like we're not saying what was in his cript so he just goes on regardless :P
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you even know what a fan boy is?
Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it dosen't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!
no... a fan boy is basically a nut hugger... you just seem to be a fan... ;)
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you even know what a fan boy is?
Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it dosen't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!
no... a fan boy is basically a nut hugger... you just seem to be a fan... ;)
There are alot of terms on this site I do not understand, I guess it's a cultural thing, but I had the forum member "X" tell me that one of my threads was bollocks, can someone tell me what the hell that means, I am assuming it means bullshit.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you even know what a fan boy is?
Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it dosen't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!
no... a fan boy is basically a nut hugger... you just seem to be a fan... ;)
Thanks I am a fan only...LOL!!! I am aware of Lacy's defecienties and just hopeing he will have it in him to make adjustments he was mediocre at best against Calzaghe....I have been following him for quite a few years before anyone knew who he was and I just loved to see the ferocious punching power but you cant get by on just that..
1) Jab
2) headmovement
3) defensive improvements
4) refine boxing skills
He will be fine, time will tell ultimately
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I guess that we are back to talking about Super Middles again....
Here are some opinions of mine on this division...
Well, JC will be there for a while...He is stronger than he looks and not afraid of anyone that wants to test him on that fact...
Lacy, well, I think he would be much better off fighting at Middle(Though I wouldnt recomend) or even take a chance at Light heavy...His speed is a little off for Super Middles atm....
Alan Green....All I can say about this guy is this, He is strong, He is fast and last but not least, he has POWER!!! Super Middles, take heed, this is the way you are supposed to be at this weight class.....10 more fights for this guy and I feel he will be all you hear about in this division...
Mikkel Kessler....Well, if he didnt fight 98% of his fights in Denmark and maybe if he would add a few notable wins to his record, maybe,,,,But I would not bet on him right at this moment...
ALSO, alot of his fights were at Middle, so I would like to see more at super-middle with notable wins...
As for Manfredo....I am not even going back to the discussion about this kid....
Here is the way you test Manfredo...Put him in with Lacy...Then Alan Green...And if he makes it past them, give him a shot at JC....
As for any other solid prospects in the Super Middle class,,,I just dont see any....
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I think Carl Froch would beat Kessler and Manfredo.
And no i aint kidding.
Kessler is a pumped-up light middle (thats where 15+ wins came from)
Wheras Manfredo should stick to middle as i believe he aint big enough to mix it with the bigger boys.
Manfredo is what, 5'9" - wheras Froch and Kessler are 6'1"
