I have to go with
1. John "Quiet Man". I believe he was a sorry excuse for a champion
Honorable mentions are
2. James "Buster" Douglas
3. Tommy Morrison
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I have to go with
1. John "Quiet Man". I believe he was a sorry excuse for a champion
Honorable mentions are
2. James "Buster" Douglas
3. Tommy Morrison
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrandon
john ruiz...........but he did beat the legendary evander holyfield, and had a draw with him
Hasim Rahman
Primo Carnera
He beat Evander Holyfield, but I would never say he beat the Evander that is the stuff of legend ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Linear champs
Marvin Hart
Primo Carnera
Non Linear champs
Mike Weaver
John Tate
Michael Bentt
John Ruiz
Quote:
Originally Posted by AC-Cobra
apparently, evanders legendary prime didnt last all that long
can anybody please tell me during what span of boxing evander cemented his all time heavyweight great legecy?
Bruce Seldon, who scared against Tyson. ;D
Well Evander is a conundrum, he's sandwiched between the likes or Tyson, Bowe, and Lewis. That's tough company. HOWEVER, he whipped Michael Moorer AFTER having Hepititus and doctors finding a hole in his heart, and he also beat Lennox Lewis after that too.
The big four (Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis) I rank as such
Bowe
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson
Between the end of Tyson's dominance and the Lewis fights I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Henry Akinwande or Micheal Dokes. Has to be...
Ruiz or Rahman....Toney is in there as well....he had the title for like 4 hours.....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrandon
I remember Tyson-Seldon. That was one hell of a hair shot Seldon tookQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintymen
I agree with John Ruiz main reason .. stylistically he is one of the most boring fighters in the world. Hold , hold , hold , and Fuc#$ing hold. The fact that Ruiz is still a #1 contender just goes to show how pathetic and corrupt the sanctioning bodies are. Ruiz is always getting his ass kicked, Hell he has not won a fight legitimately in fucking years! What’s it going to take to get red of this guy? There is no interest !
Tommy Morrison at least came to fight. .
:coolclick: gbrandon
i was there at the mandalay bay that night and witnessed something i was glad i did not have to pay for. i was also there again for rematch and was again happy i didnt pay for my tickets hahaa. Holy did do better the 3rd time tho. both times the whole mandalay bay was screaming, "STOP HUGGING!!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Anyone but me ever here of Leon Spinks who had a record of 26 wins 17 losses and 3 draws and only 14 KOs. He once got stopped by a guy who was making his pro-debut.
True. True. He also went from heavyweight champion to homeless man in the blink of an eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat
The dope and booze had something to do with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Bruce Seldon!
Dope, booze, too much fame too early, and caveman like approach to fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
john ruiz - booorinnggg
trevor berbick - had anyone saw the vid where mike tyson landed a left hook on his gloves ( which was covering his face) then he went down rolling in the canvass then tried to get up just to fall again for 3 times? man, that was embarrasing... :-[
that should make him the worst of all time.. ;D
I have to drop Frank Bruno into the mixing pot. McCall pretty much spotted him ten rounds and very nearly beat him in the final two, he then shit his pants in his first defence.
I have to bring up Oliver McCall now that you mentioned it only because of the reason he broke down in the ring in the second Lennox Lewis fight and started crying, the referee had to stop the fight because McCall just was not willing to fight, the narcotics ruined his brain. He was a bad heavyweight championQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
im not a big fan of trevor berbick but he wasnt the worse he did go 15 rounds with larry holmes and made tough fight of it.
michael dokes wasnt the worse either he had 10 round war with holyfield when he was past hes prime
Bruce Seldon ;D
Wow, there is a lot of support for Seldon as worst. What was he, given a vacant title then defended for like 61 seconds against you know who. I guess that does edge out Leon who held the title for 15 rounds, until the decision was announced in his second fight with Ali.
Leone wasn't the worst he actually had some promise with an excellent amatuer and olympic background...it was booze, drugs and women that destroyed him so his record looks like garbage...
Bruce Sledon
Buster Douglas
Joe Hipp - WBF title if it counts
He was not Heavyweight Champion when that happened. He wasn't Heavyweight Champion when he was Heavyweight Champion, Larry Holmes was.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
And his carrer ended with him hooked on coke and sitting in prison
When did Evander get a decision over Lewis? did I miss something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Sorry, the DRAW vs Lewis.....I thought he actually beat Lennox in the rematch
Lineage wise: there are four candidates:
Marvin Hart holds a victory over Jack Johnson, so he escapes the wooden spoon
Leon Spinks beat an aged Muhammad Ali, and in the early 80s at least showed glimpses, that he might of been a decent fighter, if he could of been bothered.
Primo Carnera is a big ;D candidate, but it is very hard to judge what was and was not on the level. His victory over Sharkey saves him because....
Shannon Briggs has to be the worse IMO. Damn lucky to beat a 47 year old Foreman, beaten in five by Lennox in his first defence, he had a ton of potential pre Wilson, and still 10+ years later we are still staying he may have potential.
Alphabet crap wise: Johnny Nelson (twice), Adilson Rodrigues, Jimmy Thunder, Iran Barkley, Lawrence Carter, Joe Hipp and Audley all scream out as contenders, but to my mind a man who loses his title to Harrison in four rounds must be the worse... so I give you the Dutch Sonny Liston; Richel Hersisia!
Has-Been-Rahman - he is not really a champion as he was presented the title from Vitaly, who would have have killed him by one hand if they ever fought.
Soon to be worst 2 time world champ when he knocks out chinny WladQuote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
iran barkley was actually quite good beat tommy hearns twice and lost very close sd to roberto duran
As a 160-175lberQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
At Heavyweight he lost to some pro wrestler!!!!
And Duran fight was not a very close split decision IMO, Roberto won easy enough with the knockdown ;)
I would say he did well to comeback from that and the Benn loss, to totally petrify then annihilate Van Horn, and somehow outpoint Tommy Hearns, which I still cannot figure out how he did... ???
But as a Heavyweight the blade was blunt and he sucked bad.
I would say Ruiz. But Valuev is even worse than he is.
Real heavyweight champions- Michael Moorer(I think almost any other "real" heavyweight champion could have beat him.
With the alphabelt titles, you can pretty much name anyone who was never undisputed.
....you do of course remember he beat Lennox Lewis, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by An American
James Braddock wasnt all that.
He never beat Lennox Lewis... and he sure as hell lost that first fight, and at one point was out on his feat... Bowe was scared to fight Lennox, and Lennox is the only heavyweight I could have beating Tyson prime for prime because of their match-up... for me in this itsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Lennox Lewis
Tyson prime
Bowe
Holyfield
But how their fights fanned out its
Lennox Lewis
Bowe
Holyfield
Tyson