Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: Karmazin vs Spinks

Ahhhhhhhhhh yeah!!! The weekend is once again upon us kiddies...

Now...while some of you may not be interested in the match up that wer'e about to partake in...maybe you should try to think outside of the box just this once & see what is at stake. This could be one hell of a fight...if not...well...this is Wacko's Drunken Round by Round & there is no shame in just kicking back with your buds & booze & just riding this one out stress free!

On the box this Saturday night July the 8th we get to see the return of two of the sports, argueably, most compellingly figures of the game.

Former Welterweight champion Cory Spinks (34 wins with 11 ko's & 3 losses) steps it up to the top of the crop with his first jump into the Light Middleweight division as he challanges the IBF's 154lb main man Roman "Made in Hell" Karmazin (34 wins with 21 ko's, 1 loss, & 1 draw ) on SHOWTIME.

Both fighters have been out of the ring for quite sometime...a year if I am not mistaken for Karmazin, oddly enough it was after a shocking win over highly regarded Kassim Ouma. Very strange that a man would beat an up & coming hopeful & then just take a year off. Oh well...different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Cory Spinks on the other hand hasn't fought for nearly 15 months...that's a pretty good while...especially for a man coming off of such a debilitating & humiliating loss. Cory's nickname might as well be "the Jinx", IWO. He's going back to fight in his hometown of St. Louis & at the very arena where he was knocked out by Judah in front of a sold out crowd at the Savvis Center. I don't get it. Why the added pressure?

Anywho...generally I like to hash out the details & what I consider to be possible factors that could contribute to both opponents winning or losing...but you know what? I aint that big on Spinks...or Karmazin either...so I'm leaving the door wide open to everyone on the board to put it out there.

I hate to seem so unenthusiastic about the fight...but honestly...this fight don't equate to jacko for Wacko!!! Heh heh heh.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh hell...here's my take on it...& I'll be quick & rehash it later...

Not sure whether or not this is for & against Karmazin...but Spinks is a southpaw & a damned tricky one. Southpaws are never really that easy...especially one as fast & slick as Spinks.

The reason that I think that this will turn in to a fight is due to the fact that I think Spinks will want to make a statement...but Karmazin might be the wrong man to do so against.

The little I know about "Made in Hell" is that he can crack & he can take a punch pretty well. Spinks is light handed & the fact that he's jumping up to 154 could be a factor.

I just don't know...I hate to be slack...so I will go no further. I'll just let you, my fellow posters, sort the Factors out this time...give it a shot.

Again...Wacko just admittedly...don't know enough about Karmazin to set up the factors for or against either man. Your input would be appreciated...so feel free to chime in anytime.

That being said...it's been a loooooooooooong week for the Wack-one. Having a couple of days off to start the week ruined my ass...I was a bit more at liberty to consume more than my usual doseage of poison.

Anywho...let's hope for a great match up this weekend...but I mean...come on...this is Cory Spinks here people! Ya'll know me though. No matter what...Wacko shall be here...punch by punch...second by second...& drunken round by drunken round.

That being said...tighten up your panties girls & let's get into the thick of it.

As always...it shall be Wacko's pleasure to stick it out here every Saturday night...this one will be no different.

Break out the chips & salsa, fire up the grill, pour the liquor, & crack open some caps...come Saturday night...it's fight night!

Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.

I go with Karmazin.

Spinks is at the weight he should have been fighting at for the last 2 years.

CC for this Wack,t could turn out to be a good fight! Karmazin is rugged but has he ever faced a boxer like Spinks?? I also read in an interview that Spinks power has increased at this weight so that should help him. I think Spinks wins on points,when you hear Karmazin in interviews,he sounds very wary and somewhat worried,not confident at all!

I think Spinks is going to have a very, very hard time of it this weekend...Karmazin is a very solid fighter and he holds the natural weight advantage over spinks. After what he did to Ouma I wouldnt be surprised if he stops Spinks late on or even works a tough decision...

Fristly- :coolclick: wacko for keeping up the excellent work.
Secondly- Karmazin decision!

Havn't seen Karmazin fight yet, but one thing that comes to mind is the last time I saw Spinks fight he was knocked completely out. Curious to see how confident he is at this point

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Originally Posted by raleights

Havn't seen Karmazin fight yet, but one thing that comes to mind is the last time I saw Spinks fight he was knocked completely out. Curious to see how confident he is at this point

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Wer'e paddlin in pretty much the same boat then.

Seen Karmazin twice.
Seen Spinks several times...but I just aint buyin into him that much.

cc wack for DRbR. Im not sure what to think about this fight. Both have been off for a while, it will be a good test for Karmazin in how he handles a true boxer. And Spinks coming into a championship, in a new weight division, and first fight in 15months after being KOed. I think both will be rusty which will make for an ugly fight. I think Karmazin will catch him at some point and score the TKO.

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Originally Posted by TyBuff

cc wack for DRbR. Im not sure what to think about this fight. Both have been off for a while, it will be a good test for Karmazin in how he handles a true boxer. And Spinks coming into a championship, in a new weight division, and first fight in 15months after being KOed. I think both will be rusty which will make for an ugly fight. I think Karmazin will catch him at some point and score the TKO.

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:coolclick: right back babe.

I don't think that this fight is going to be ugly by any means...but I do agree that the rust will show...probably more for Karmazin. Spinks's rust will be just under the surface as he can pass it off as getting used to the extra pounds.

If Karmazin can rock Kassim Ouma then he should have no problems connecting the fist bones to Spinks jaw bone.

Roman is a big old boy he's apparently a good boxer too, I see him aiming for Jermain Taylor or Tony margarito after this joke of a fight.

Spinks needed to take some warm up fights, he's not only had a long layoff he's moved up in weight and all of a sudden he has a title shot vs I think one of the most dangerous title holders in boxing (comparitively speaking in regards to the level of competition at the weight class)

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Spinks needed to take some warm up fights, he's not only had a long layoff he's moved up in weight and all of a sudden he has a title shot vs I think one of the most dangerous title holders in boxing (comparitively speaking in regards to the level of competition at the weight class)

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I gotta agree with ya Lyle. Spinks isnt an elite fighter to begin with, then to go up in weight and right into a title fight might a little to far. He should have test the waters first with a tune up. Somebody said that people are saying Spinks has more pop at this weight. He might have but it still wont be 154 pop, he wasnt a banger at 147 and he wont be one at 154 either.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Spinks needed to take some warm up fights, he's not only had a long layoff he's moved up in weight and all of a sudden he has a title shot vs I think one of the most dangerous title holders in boxing (comparitively speaking in regards to the level of competition at the weight class)

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I gotta agree with ya Lyle. Spinks isnt an elite fighter to begin with, then to go up in weight and right into a title fight might a little to far. He should have test the waters first with a tune up. Somebody said that people are saying Spinks has more pop at this weight. He might have but it still wont be 154 pop, he wasnt a banger at 147 and he wont be one at 154 either.

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Your right on!
Karm is rock solid, Tall, awkward as hell, lots of energy, and solid chin! Russian solid ! Spinks is jumping into the pond without sticking his foot in the water first, that can be very dangerous. Quartey turned this fight down sometime back when he was scheduled to fight Forrest and Forrest got injured , Ike's people saw this Russian as very dangerous and not worth the risk even for the title shot. too many other fish in the water with a bigger name . without the kinda risk.

CC Wack

Gotto go with Spinks, he is going to cause Karma FITS, IF he comes in boxing like he can, if he is rusty, he will get knocked out, but remeber just because he has been out of the ring doesnt mean he wont be in shape.

Spinks hopefully will have trained hard for this, and he should, walk out with a Unanimous Decision.

Aslong as he has the correct GamePlan

CC Wack

Gotto go with Spinks, he is going to cause Karma FITS, IF he comes in boxing like he can, if he is rusty, he will get knocked out, but remeber just because he has been out of the ring doesnt mean he wont be in shape.

Spinks hopefully will have trained hard for this, and he should, walk out with a Unanimous Decision.

Aslong as he has the correct GamePlan

lol all you Spinks haters will be silenced if he wins.

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

lol all you Spinks haters will be silenced if he wins.

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i like spinks.......he called out floyd
assuming he wins this fight, that could be an interesting matchup
mayweather vs. spinks at 154 for a title that is actually legit :o

i hope he pulls it out, but karmazin is no joke

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

lol all you Spinks haters will be silenced if he wins.

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i like spinks.......he called out floyd
assuming he wins this fight, that could be an interesting matchup
mayweather vs. spinks at 154 for a title that is actually legit :o

i hope he pulls it out, but karmazin is no joke

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check this out , i feel that Karmazin would beat Floyd at 154. im telling yeah, this Russian is funky ! difficult style to deal with . He is a 154 lb monster.

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

lol all you Spinks haters will be silenced if he wins.

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i like spinks.......he called out floyd
assuming he wins this fight, that could be an interesting matchup
mayweather vs. spinks at 154 for a title that is actually legit :o

i hope he pulls it out, but karmazin is no joke

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Yeah. A lot of people say Margarito ducked Spinks :(

Its tough to call IMO, Karmazin's style is better suited for a guy to come right at him, and Spinks isn't gonna do that. Karmazin didn't look that comfortable when he had to come forward all the time and press the fight versus Keith Holmes and he's gonna have to press the fight in this one cause Spinks is gonna be moving. Not really sure who to pick actually.

long time no see. I think people just credit him because he beat Ouma. But thats one style, Spinks is very different.

I got Spinks whipping the heck out of Karmazin I am a fan of tricky styles and Spinks has an extra bonus because he is a southpaw. Spinks just does not know how to crack if he could do that he would be even better, but I guess with his style you don't need to.

You can't judge a fighter off a one fight this reminds me how people kept bringing up mayorga and forrest. I hope Karmazin is not just looking at Spinks vs Judah 2 because Emanuel Steward said that one of the reason why prince lost to MAB was due to the fact he would only watch the MAB vs Juinor Jones and thought he was going to knock him out easily

I like both these guys. Spinks is rangy and very slick, but he has no power and his chin isn't great either. Spinks will stick and move and stay on his toes all night. If Karmazin can't get to him than Spinks wins a close decision. On the other hand spinks could win several rounds but late in the fight run out of steam from the pressure and get KO'd. I would be suprised to see either happen.

Spinks Jinx bitches, all I'm gonna say :D

Time for the Miles kiss of death :lightingzapA: :toff: ;D

Karmazin by decision or possible late staoppage...

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They both look very ready

Cory Spinks is a punk, and will get KTFO by Karmazin.

Bet he doesn't come out with Nelly or othewise bullshiat ringwalk after getting emabarrased last time. ;D

heres anothe weigh-in shot...

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Going with Karmazin by UD or late stoppage :)

ok poor Wacka is really ill and wont be doing the round by round tonight so if anyone want to step in and give it a go feel free but the main thing is get well soon Wacka ;)

Anyhooo here is the full rd by rd for you guys....

Rd1

Spinks on the back foot but pumping out the jab and just stealing the round

rd2 to rd 12 see above

Spinks wins via UD

thank you and good night...


post to follow.... Karmazin won that decision was bullshit

second post no it wasnt Karmazin was hitting arms and glove and Spinks was countering great

third post... you are a hater and dont know nothing about boxing.

then the whole forum goes mad with Sal calling for the judges to be shot at dawn.

Sad click aplenty all over the board then and thats about it folks hope i filled the gap well tonight ;D

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Originally Posted by Saddo

ok poor Wacka is really ill and wont be doing the round by round tonight so if anyone want to step in and give it a go feel free but the main thing is get well soon Wacka ;)

Anyhooo here is the full rd by rd for you guys....

Rd1

Spinks on the back foot but pumping out the jab and just stealing the round

rd2 to rd 12 see above

Spinks wins via UD

thank you and good night...


post to follow.... Karmazin won that decision was bullshit

second post no it wasnt Karmazin was hitting arms and glove and Spinks was countering great

third post... you are a hater and dont know nothing about boxing.

then the whole forum goes mad with Sal calling for the judges to be shot at dawn.

Sad click aplenty all over the board then and thats about it folks hope i filled the gap well tonight ;D

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;D ;D ;D

Get well soon Wacko! Was it liver failure? :o :o

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Originally Posted by Saddo

ok poor Wacka is really ill and wont be doing the round by round tonight so if anyone want to step in and give it a go feel free but the main thing is get well soon Wacka ;)

Anyhooo here is the full rd by rd for you guys....

Rd1

Spinks on the back foot but pumping out the jab and just stealing the round

rd2 to rd 12 see above

Spinks wins via UD

thank you and good night...


post to follow.... Karmazin won that decision was bullshit

second post no it wasnt Karmazin was hitting arms and glove and Spinks was countering great

third post... you are a hater and dont know nothing about boxing.

then the whole forum goes mad with Sal calling for the judges to be shot at dawn.

Sad click aplenty all over the board then and thats about it folks hope i filled the gap well tonight ;D

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Definitely get well soon ;) And I'll step in since I'm doing one for the front page anyways. The fight is set to start in about 2 and a half hours right?

CC mate i'll make this a sticky now ;)

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Originally Posted by Saddo

CC mate i'll make this a sticky now ;)

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CC returned. Hope it's not to sober for everyone's taste :-\







Just kidding Wacko you better get back real soon like.

Sup everyone, I'm gonna be watching UFC 61 unfortunatly cos there is no karmazin vs spicnks available to me, so i'll be with u lot tonight :) this should be an intriging fight but I think spinks is past it, and outmatched by roman.

hey secondroundko, you are the best, i have no showtime access and i really am happy you are taking over, thanks for pickin' up the slack........

Cory Spinks is going to do the dance to the ring again ::**

FFS. Still rooting for him though.

Anyone else would have loved to see Spinks KTFO Jim Grey right there? HAHAHA

What do Corey Spinks do? You keep saying you "do what Corey Spinks do". So why don't you tell us? What do Corey Spinks do?

bwahha

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hey secondroundko, you are the best, i have no showtime access and i really am happy you are taking over, thanks for pickin' up the slack........

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No problem ;)

:coolclick: Welcome to the site.

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Doug Tucker SCORED SPINKS BY 5 GUESS THATS JUST HOW THE NSAC IS RUN!!!


















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THEY BELIEVE IN ROBBING MEN FOR ALL THIER WORTH BY SCORING FIGHTS ONE-SIDED



















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NEVER A FAIR APPOINTMENT MADE TO A HIGH PROFILE FIGHT WHEN KIZER MAKES IT


















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HOW CAN HE JUDGE SPINKS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!