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Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
But not if he just 'jumps all over him'.
You don't beat the most schooled boxer in the game by just 'jumping all over him' and hoping for the best, Mayweather's talented enough to simply step back and throw a lead right at the same time and never miss - and Ricky's under-estimating Mayweather's punch if he thinks Mayweather 'wouldn't be able to keep him off him', with Ricky just steaming in (as he says he'd do) he'd quite simply be giving Mayweather double velocity to his shots! Unless Ricky uses some sort of method, instead of madness, he'd be picked off and cut up and lose every round until the referee waves it off. Mayweather is a cleaner puncher than anything Hatton has known, and although Hatton probably closes the distance quicker than anybody Mayweather has fought - Mayweather can get his shots off quicker than anything Hatton has seen.
First and foremost, Hatton needs to lose some muscle. Kayes put 7lbs of muscle onto Ricky's frame in just six weeks for the Collazo fight, and it showed as Ricky appeared extremely slow (compared to his usual sharper, faster self) and unflexible on the night.. weighing 158 on a 5ft6 frame is quite hideous to be honest. If Mayweather won't move back down to 140, then Ricky should simply prepare for a 140 fight (even if he's taking the fight at 'welterweight') because he's naturally bigger than Mayweather anyway.
To beat Floyd Mayweather, you need to force him to make mistakes (because he won't make mistakes on his own), which is easier said than done. To force him to make mistakes, you need to use tactical maneuvering. Ricky Hatton is the one fighter who has the tools to make Mayweather make mistakes. Firstly, he needs to box his way in. Hatton has a quick, darting jab in his toolbox that looks difficult to counter with the right hand, he doubles and triples it into your face and it leaves him in position to get his shots off and his opponent in position to be hit. As or after Ricky's got his shots off, he'd need to be moving out of punching range, and then out-thinking Mayweather (which only Ricky Hatton can do, he has such a good boxing brain between his ears - if only he'd believe in himself).
He can give Mayweather angles, he can give him feints, he's the one guy who can throw Mayweather off. He knows how stay in range to draw leads, but while being in position to become slightly out of range with just one shift of the feet. Mayweather is a counter-puncher, and Hatton is the guy who can make him lead. And I believe Hatton is actually at his best when he's counter-punching -
working off opponents leads and threading punches through small gaps. He can punch when Mayweather punches by rolling with Mayweather's punches while letting his own shots go at the same time. Hatton can do this. But he can't roll with any shots or counter anything if he's just going 'jump all over him' with no pre-thought.
Ricky is quick-witted, as well as quick-footed and quick-handed, and much cuter than he's ever been given credit for. And he has a large variety of shots to keep Mayweather thinking, and the more you make Mayweather think the more likely it is that he's going to slip up, and if he slips up then Ricky Hatton is the fighter to make him pay, quite honestly.
Mayweather can roll his shoulders all he likes, but that's not going to avoid a left hook placed just behind the elbow. Hatton also knows how to step around and shift his position to open Mayweather up and be able to shoot a shot to the solar plexus (slowing Mayweather down for a few rounds).
Ricky Hatton's 'boxing' ability is under-estimated. We've seen his 'boxing' skills in the gym often enough and back in the amateurs, but believe me we have never seen the best of Ricky Hatton's 'boxing' ability in professional boxing. Hatton simply hasn't needed to use his 'boxing' skills, because he's always been able to overwhelm opponents. Against Mayweather, though, he'd need to use all his skill if he wants to stand much chance of winning the thing, and then with his more notable advantages (eg strength, power, stamina, workrate, chin, infighting, pressure) on top of that it would = victory! But he needs to live with Mayweather in terms of boxing (and he can, trust me) before he can think about bringing out his main advantages (when Mayweather is more frustrated), he can't try to throw Mayweather off by 'jumping all over him' from the start because it will not work IMO, he needs to try to throw Mayweather off with tactical maneuvering before possibly jumping on him later in the fight.
Anybody doubting Ricky's 'boxing' skills should consider that he was actually the best on the planet in his category in the amateurs. For a kid with short arms, that alone proves he must of been able to box abit!
Watch Hatton against Thaxton, Magee and Tackie and you see such rythm and balance. I know Thaxton, Magee and Tackie aren't in Mayweather's league, but then again who is? You can show skill on a punching bag though, and Hatton has certainly showed flashes of his class in the pro ranks. Watch the Pendleton fight closely and you see Hatton doing a lot of side-stepping to load up his punches. The Oliveira fight shows accurate output from all sides, and saw Hatton reduce a guy who had set CompuBox records with ammounts of punches he throws to barely being able to get any shots off - Hatton thoroughly dominated that fight without even needing to throw one jab!
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
At national level in the amateurs, because Ricky often just blew everybody away, people thought of him as just a little scrapper - just a strong brawler. But whenever Ricky boxed internationally, against top-class, he knew he wouldn't always blow them away and that's where his boxing skills and composure would come out - he'd set out to beat the top guys abroard with talent and technique rather than only needing power and pressure (which was all he needed to take out the local boys back home).
It's been similar in the pro's, he's only really needed to bring out his boxing skills in the Magee fight (adapted after a couple of rounds) and Tackie fight (was too smart to stand in front of Tackie). He'd need them against Mayweather, big time.
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
Wow,dude,CC for that analysis!!! You seem to know what you are talking about and that seems like a heck of alot of things Hatotn needs to do to beat Floyd!!
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Nice work DD. CC for the time and effort ;)
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Indeed. An excellent posting. Nice :coolclick:
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
Forcing Floyd to make mistakes is easier said than done at 28yrs old he is one of the smartest to step in the ring he is composed confident and always alert making key changes..It's gonna take someone with out lot more skills and smarts than Ricky Hatton, at least at this juncture..Time will tell
Floyd is quick to adjust.. He's like the Barry Sanders of Boxing
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Its hard to question him, he's got rick this far and also trained him to beat Kostya Tszyu, the legend, who was probably considered as unbeatable as mayweather is now. Plus, we've all seen what happens when a lifelong trainer is sacked, the biggest case in point is Prince Naseem.
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Its hard to question him, he's got rick this far and also trained him to beat Kostya Tszyu, the legend, who was probably considered as unbeatable as mayweather is now. Plus, we've all seen what happens when a lifelong trainer is sacked, the biggest case in point is Prince Naseem.
And then we had the Collazo fight....he isnt some guru...
I love Hatton, but I do have my worries and doubts....
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Take him to what level? Hatton doesn't need to be any better, Graham trained a boxing maestro who can take Mayweather.
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Take him to what level? Hatton doesn't need to be any better, Graham trained a boxing maestro who can take Mayweather.
i wonder why team hatton continues to turn down fighting mayweather?
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i think the reaction to the collazo verdict was blown out of all proportion. maybe ricky just has difficulty with southpaws? remember the trouble he had with eamon magee. mayweather is orthodox and believe me hatton can beat him with good educated pressure. this is a winnable fight for ricky.
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Take him to what level? Hatton doesn't need to be any better, Graham trained a boxing maestro who can take Mayweather.
Hatton himself dosn't think he can take Mayweather
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Take him to what level? Hatton doesn't need to be any better, Graham trained a boxing maestro who can take Mayweather.
i wonder why team hatton continues to turn down fighting mayweather?
BECAUSE ALL THEY HAVE OFFERED HIM IS SHITE PURSES, its mayweather who needs to cal out hatton
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Mayweather aint the biggest welter - not at all.
I totally agree that Hatton was more of a bodybuilder in the ring than a boxer.
He timing and head movement seem to be extremely lacking at times which i have never ever seen before which i totally put down to the extra muscles drawing blood and energy and limiting manouverability.
He seemed to have a 7lb weight belt on - sluggish after 4 rounds.
158 is very heavy for 5'6" - 2 pounds more than Collazo on the night.
152 should be the weight for Mayweather - punches in bunches from start to finish will see him off.
Leaner, faster, fitter.
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Take him to what level? Hatton doesn't need to be any better, Graham trained a boxing maestro who can take Mayweather.
i wonder why team hatton continues to turn down fighting mayweather?
BECAUSE ALL THEY HAVE OFFERED HIM IS SHITE PURSES, its mayweather who needs to cal out hatton
mayweather has called out hatton numerous times......
they said they WILL NOT take the fight till at least 2007 (citing hatton isnt yet ready)
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isnt ready...to hand over 75% of the purse.
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isnt ready...to hand over 75% of the purse.
nope......... thats not what team hatton said
you should do some research, thats pretty much common knowledge amongst the boxing educated ;)
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isnt ready...to hand over 75% of the purse.
nope......... thats not what team hatton said
you should do some research, thats pretty much common knowledge amongst the boxing educated ;)
I already CC you once today so I have to wait another 24 hours but this is a good statement. I agree that Floyd should take one of the big fights and he has been beating around the bush, cityof god I don't hear you talking much about the other three (Cotto, Hatton, Margarito) fighting each other you seem to focus on PBF. I agree with you idea on PBF but if you hold him to that you must hold the other three to that because none of them are chasing each other. PBF get's all the attention because he is the pound for pound king, it's lonely at the top.
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Mayweather fans of the world unite http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/guus/liefde.gif
Like when Fraud called Margerito a nobody? that he would fight him anytime?
Careful what you wish for Fraud: http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/Wizard.gif
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This is the last time I will respond to your post. I won't sad click you because I disagree, that's why I come to the websit. But you get SC because your comments are bias, you can take the same situation and go two different way's with it, can't debate with somebody who is not open minded.
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Hatton aint ducking anybody though.
And for the record - the world knows Floyd calls out names then demands ridiculous money for the fight.
Except this time, Arum has put up the ridiculous money...and Floyd goes chicken.
Now tell me, is that not true what i just said? My mind is 'open' to your response.
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Obviously PBF is fighting at welterweight & we have seen what Ricky can('t) do at Welter so there is no way he can beat Floyd! PBF is just too talented for a brawler like hatton
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This is the last time I will respond to your post. I won't sad click you because I disagree, that's why I come to the websit. But you get SC because your comments are bias, you can take the same situation and go two different way's with it, can't debate with somebody who is not open minded.
Just in case you didn't get around to it, I sc'ed him for you. :thumb:
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
Those are things Hatton should do to beat Floyd but its not the things he will do, he should have done that to beat Collazo.
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There's no way Hatton Beats Mayweather, Collazo was pretty much robbed, Floyd would murder Hatton.
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There's no way Hatton Beats Mayweather, Collazo was pretty much robbed, Floyd would murder Hatton.
i thought hatton won the fight against collazo..........
but you are right, no way does he beat floyd
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Obviously PBF is fighting at welterweight & we have seen what Ricky can('t) do at Welter so there is no way he can beat Floyd! PBF is just too talented for a brawler like hatton
Your analysis sucks! How can u call Hatton a brawler, have u seen the Tackie fight?
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There's no way Hatton Beats Mayweather, Collazo was pretty much robbed, Floyd would murder Hatton.
i thought hatton won the fight against collazo..........
but you are right, no way does he beat floyd
I thought Hatton was lucky, he won the judges votes, but I thought Collazo had done enough
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Obviously PBF is fighting at welterweight & we have seen what Ricky can('t) do at Welter so there is no way he can beat Floyd! PBF is just too talented for a brawler like hatton
Your analysis sucks! How can u call Hatton a brawler, have u seen the Tackie fight?
in no was I downing Hatton, but either way PBF is way too talented & quick for him ,and yea Callazo who isn't even all that good beat him!
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Hatton was hurt badly by Collazo who I feel has nowhere near the punching power of Floyd. Floyd hits harder & is some much faster, all spells disater for the Hitman.
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Hatton was hurt badly by Collazo who I feel has nowhere near the punching power of Floyd. Floyd hits harder & is some much faster, all spells disater for the Hitman.
And you would know that how?
Collazo doesn't have an impressive KO rate but he was a World Champion all the same. Hatton said himself Collazo hurt him as much as KT did. Says everything you need to know about the power Collazo possesses.
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8) In your deepest dreems there stud. Ain't happening I know Im going to just waste my time telling you why so ya! ya! ya! Whatever!;D 8) Whats that say about the power of the real tough 147lb fighters if Hatton said Calozzo hit hard. 8)
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hatton has achieved so much hes 41-0 won belts at different weight divisions hes prolly achieved more than any other british fighter and because he struggled against collazo people are doubting him well we could say mayweather struggled against castillo but i think ricky hatton should get the respect he deserves
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8) Against who? He better not even think twice of staying at 147lb because he will get booked against the first real champion im talking anytime soon. But he is used to fighting fighters with canes to walk. He looked very bad in his last fight. He fought a super weak champion that beat Hatton anyways in most peoples eyes. In fact I hope he stays at 147lbs just to shut some mouths. ;D
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
well he beat kostya and judah got knocked out in 2 rounds against kostya and mayweather had some problems with judah ;D
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and to be honest who has mayweather beaten that great aswell ??
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8) That fight won't happen anyways not soon Floyd doesn't walk with a cane yet! 8) I talked to Mayweather about Hatton and believe me he seeing nothing there. Also will not ever fight in Manchester if it did happen but wont unless they come with real big money than he will take Hatton out because his style is perfedt for Mayweather but has to be in Las Vegas.
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and to be honest who has mayweather beaten that great aswell ??
I wouldnt call to many fighters great but formidable recognized fighters
Judah,Castillo 2x,Corralles,Gatti,Manfredy
We always talk about how because fighter A beat fighter B means that fighter C should Have no problem with B cause he KO'd A in 2 rounds....See how your head is already hurting from reading this..LOL!!!
It is just not accurate and viable to compare