How STUPID is this Roman Karmizin fella?

Why is he even givin Cory Spinks a shot tonight? Spinks is not a big name or draw outside of St. Louis, which is also where they happen to be fighting. So Karmizin is guranteed to get screwed if it goes to the cards. Already he has himself backed against the wall where he must knock Spinks out to win. He is capable of it and I hope he does, but if he doesn't he has no chance to win. Cory is just gonna run, run some more, throw some pitter patt crap, and survive the 12 rounds, then steal Karmizin's title. Now Cory may prove me wrong and legit out box the aging Karmizin legitimately, but even if he doesn't we all know he will definately get the decision. Dumb fight for Karmizin. ::**

Im sure Karmazin is being well paid for fighting in Spinks back yard. Karmazins definately a 'who needs him' type, he wont have had alot of options IMO.

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Why is he even givin Cory Spinks a shot tonight? Spinks is not a big name or draw outside of St. Louis, which is also where they happen to be fighting. So Karmizin is guranteed to get screwed if it goes to the cards. Already he has himself backed against the wall where he must knock Spinks out to win. He is capable of it and I hope he does, but if he doesn't he has no chance to win. Cory is just gonna run, run some more, throw some pitter patt crap, and survive the 12 rounds, then steal Karmizin's title. Now Cory may prove me wrong and legit out box the aging Karmizin legitimately, but even if he doesn't we all know he will definately get the decision. Dumb fight for Karmizin. ::**

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Why would you think that people in the boxing world would want Spinks to win, I don't get it. No boxing sanction wants a guy like Spinks who has no star power, no popularity, small amount of talent, and a very dim future as it's champion. The people of St Louis may be behind Spinks, but nobody in the boxing world is, specially the boxing sanctions (IBF,WBA,WBC,WBO). I don't think they will be paying the judges off for a Spinks win, sorry.

I agree to an extent Hulk but it would make a powerful statement if he koed Spinks. I totally agree though,what did Spinks to get a shot,he should be looking to unify.

Hes not stupid at all adding Spinks name to his resume is GOOD FOR HIM. Even if hes not a big name outside of St. hes the man who beat the man that was 'considered' the man (Zab).


Stupid? No.
Nice paycheck? Yes
Easy win for him? Maybe


IMO late stoppage Karmazin wins 8th rd. TKO. 8)

>:mad What did I tell everyone? Huh? They did it again, that makes it THREE times now. Once again Spinks was out worked, beaten, hunted down hurt, yet managed to run his way to another crooked shady ass decision. I was surprised and a little impressed early when he stood with Karmazin and didn't run and will admit he won four of the first 6 rounds. But from then on he maybe won one or two at the most more rounds and was simply outworked. I mean it's hard to say you are a champ and won the fight when your own corner is telling you to "Grab this motherfuker and hold on for dear life!". Sadly I was right, another champ falls victim to the Spinks "jinks" AKA Fix. :-X

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>:mad What did I tell everyone? Huh? They did it again, that makes it THREE times now. Once again Spinks was out worked, beaten, hunted down hurt, yet managed to run his way to another crooked shady ass decision. I was surprised and a little impressed early when he stood with Karmazin and didn't run and will admit he won four of the first 6 rounds. But from then on he maybe won one or two at the most more rounds and was simply outworked. I mean it's hard to say you are a champ and won the fight when your own corner is telling you to "Grab this motherfuker and hold on for dear life!". Sadly I was right, another champ falls victim to the Spinks "jinks" AKA Fix. :-X

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You watch the fight? It was a draw at best for Karmazin.

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>:mad What did I tell everyone? Huh? They did it again, that makes it THREE times now. Once again Spinks was out worked, beaten, hunted down hurt, yet managed to run his way to another crooked shady ass decision. I was surprised and a little impressed early when he stood with Karmazin and didn't run and will admit he won four of the first 6 rounds. But from then on he maybe won one or two at the most more rounds and was simply outworked. I mean it's hard to say you are a champ and won the fight when your own corner is telling you to "Grab this motherfuker and hold on for dear life!". Sadly I was right, another champ falls victim to the Spinks "jinks" AKA Fix. :-X

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You watch the fight? It was a draw at best for Karmazin.

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;D Did I? Did YOU watch the damn thing. It was another gift for Cory. I'm tellin it is impossible to beat the guy less you KO his butt. Its ridiculous. But please do enlighten me on how he won 7 rounds.

Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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So which rounds did he win? ???

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Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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So which rounds did he win? ???

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2 or 6 can be debated but I really don't think that Karmazin did anywhere near enough to win those. He landed one big punch in each but Spinks won pretty clearly imo.

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Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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So which rounds did he win? ???

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2 or 6 can be debated but I really don't think that Karmazin did anywhere near enough to win those. He landed one big punch in each but Spinks won pretty clearly imo.

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2,6,7 and 9-12 were all obviously Karmazin rounds. 7 might be debatable. In the second round he buckled Spinks and followed up with other shots as well. Spinks landed a few pitter patt shots mostley to Karmazin's chest and maybe a couple clean ones. It's just a joke to truly say Spinks won the fight. ;D ::**

none of those rounds before the 7th were "clearly' Karmazins rounds and they were more clearly Cory's, the fight was close from the 7th round on but Spinks had dominated the action before that. And landing one hard shot in the 2nd and getting outboxed the rest of the way is no way to win around unless your name is Ricky Hatton ;)

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Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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So which rounds did he win? ???

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2 or 6 can be debated but I really don't think that Karmazin did anywhere near enough to win those. He landed one big punch in each but Spinks won pretty clearly imo.

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2,6,7 and 9-12 were all obviously Karmazin rounds. 7 might be debatable. In the second round he buckled Spinks and followed up with other shots as well. Spinks landed a few pitter patt shots mostley to Karmazin's head and maybe a couple clean ones. It's just a joke to truly say Spinks won the fight. ;D ::**

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Karmazin landed one really big punch in round 2 and then just got outboxed, he threw punches but Spinks slipped almost everything after that. I know the tv people and everyone gave Spinks the round but I really didn't think so. Maybe I missed something.

But as for round 6, Karmazin began to have sucess because he started using his lead left hook and his jab but he started that in the last minute of the round and Spinks still had that quickness. I really don't see how you could give Karmazin that round.

Like I said, draw at best, 1 round off at worse. I think round 2 is the only real swing round to be honest.

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Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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So which rounds did he win? ???

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2 or 6 can be debated but I really don't think that Karmazin did anywhere near enough to win those. He landed one big punch in each but Spinks won pretty clearly imo.

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2,6,7 and 9-12 were all obviously Karmazin rounds. 7 might be debatable. In the second round he buckled Spinks and followed up with other shots as well. Spinks landed a few pitter patt shots mostley to Karmazin's head and maybe a couple clean ones. It's just a joke to truly say Spinks won the fight. ;D ::**

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Karmazin landed one really big punch in round 2 and then just got outboxed, he threw punches but Spinks slipped almost everything after that. I know the tv people and everyone gave Spinks the round but I really didn't think so. Maybe I missed something.

But as for round 6, Karmazin began to have sucess because he started using his lead left hook and his jab but he started that in the last minute of the round and Spinks still had that quickness. I really don't see how you could give Karmazin that round.

Like I said, draw at best, 1 round off at worse. I think round 2 is the only real swing round to be honest.

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Funny how even Al Bernstein whose score card was ridiculous, had it a draw by the end, isn't? Also that all of Press Row had Karmazin winning or at worst a draw. To say Spinks won that fight borders on ignorant or at least very bias. Myself I don't like either fighter much, dislike Spinks more but Karmazin is certainly not a favorite of mine, not by a long shot.

I'm not biased either. And I think Spinks won that fight. But it seems you are still mad about hte Mayorga fight ;)

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Yeah, Spinks won that fight or it was a draw. No way did Karmazin in any way shape form or mathmatics win that fight :)

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So which rounds did he win? ???

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2 or 6 can be debated but I really don't think that Karmazin did anywhere near enough to win those. He landed one big punch in each but Spinks won pretty clearly imo.

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2,6,7 and 9-12 were all obviously Karmazin rounds. 7 might be debatable. In the second round he buckled Spinks and followed up with other shots as well. Spinks landed a few pitter patt shots mostley to Karmazin's head and maybe a couple clean ones. It's just a joke to truly say Spinks won the fight. ;D ::**

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Karmazin landed one really big punch in round 2 and then just got outboxed, he threw punches but Spinks slipped almost everything after that. I know the tv people and everyone gave Spinks the round but I really didn't think so. Maybe I missed something.

But as for round 6, Karmazin began to have sucess because he started using his lead left hook and his jab but he started that in the last minute of the round and Spinks still had that quickness. I really don't see how you could give Karmazin that round.

Like I said, draw at best, 1 round off at worse. I think round 2 is the only real swing round to be honest.

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Funny how even Al Bernstein whose score card was ridiculous, had it a draw by the end, isn't? Also that all of Press Row had Karmazin winning or at worst a draw. To say Spinks won that fight borders on ignorant or at least very bias. Myself I don't like either fighter much, dislike Spinks more but Karmazin is certainly not a favorite of mine, not by a long shot.

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I have no problem with a draw and other then round 2, I had the exact same scorecard as Bernstein.



And btw Hulk, just looked at your profile thing, where in NorCal do you live? Not a lot of people on this forum from up here.

Ha, Spinks won the fight......

Hulk just didn't want Spinks to win. Who he fought had nothing to do with it, if Spinks fights Hulk wants him to lose ;)

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Hulk just didn't want Spinks to win. Who he fought had nothing to do with it, if Spinks fights Hulk wants him to lose ;)

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Like Hatton and Oscar Haha


It was so funny coming on here the day after Oscars destruction of Mayorga

And then when i returned 3 days after Barreras win over Juarez, I was greeted to a PM saying where are you now, I came out after Mayorga lost and took it like a man, so you take it like a man after your boy Barrera got beat down.



I simply replied....


Ummm, Barrera Won..... ???



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I believe Karmizin won or the fight was a draw. However, I think Corky looked amazing the first half and have no real qualms with someone saying he won the fight. I thought he would run the entire fight and he didn't. I was impressed.

When Corky got rocked in round two I spilled cheese dip down the front of my shirt as I screamed with joy.

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Hulk just didn't want Spinks to win. Who he fought had nothing to do with it, if Spinks fights Hulk wants him to lose ;)

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Like Hatton and Oscar Haha


It was so funny coming on here the day after Oscars destruction of Mayorga

And then when i returned 3 days after Barreras win over Juarez, I was greeted to a PM saying where are you now, I came out after Mayorga lost and took it like a man, so you take it like a man after your boy Barrera got beat down.



I simply replied....


Ummm, Barrera Won..... ???



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Never said Barrera got "beat down". Spinks and Hatton however did recently recieve gift decisions. And yeah I don't like Spinks, but didn't I say I had him ahead 4-2 after 6 and he was winning legit early? Point is its hard to call yourself a champ when your own corner is tellin you to "grab this MF and hold on for dear life." ::**

Spinks is Champion ;D :lickish: