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Why ODLH and Winky won't fight each other?
Does Oscar really want to be out with a supperior legacy? Here is your chance Boy.
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Originally Posted by Puya
Does Oscar really want to be out with a supperior legacy? Here is your chance Boy.
Ah, I think Wright needs De La Hoya a lot more than De La Hoya needs him.
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He's waaaaaaay tooooooo smart to go out like !!!
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I doubt it. DLH has two losses at Middleweight and Winky has fought Jermain Taylor and come a lot close to winning the undisputed middleweight championship then DLH did. And lets not forget Oscar avoided him for the longest. Oscar doesn't need Winky for legacy because Oscar could sell an arena with or without him. But the boxing world needs Wright more then it does DLH imo at this point.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
I doubt it. DLH has two losses at Middleweight and Winky has fought Jermain Taylor and come a lot close to winning the undisputed middleweight championship then DLH did. And lets not forget Oscar avoided him for the longest. Oscar doesn't need Winky for legacy because Oscar could sell an arena with or without him. But the boxing world needs Wright more then it does DLH imo at this point.
That's the only thing I was talking about.
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as far as legacy goes Winky has nothing to prove ....ODLH has known for years that he couldn't compete with the likes of WINKY ....
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That's the problem with boxing...Legacy is based on selling out arenas....instead of who's the best....Winky would beat Oscar like he has never been.
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
That's the problem with boxing...Legacy is based on selling out arenas....instead of who's the best....Winky would beat Oscar like he has never been.
Thats because people no longer want to see 'boxing' they just want to see formless slugging at each other until one goes down. People have started to not appreciate boxing for what it is, the art of hitting and not being hit and would rather see two formless fighters get world title shots for not having skill but for bleeding and winning every fight.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
That's the problem with boxing...Legacy is based on selling out arenas....instead of who's the best....Winky would beat Oscar like he has never been.
Thats because people no longer want to see 'boxing' they just want to see formless slugging at each other until one goes down. People have started to not appreciate boxing for what it is, the art of hitting and not being hit and would rather see two formless fighters get world title shots for not having skill but for bleeding and winning every fight.
Come on sweetheart. Like you didn't enjoy Corrales-Castillo 1. There was no boxing in that.
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And I totally agree with both those last posts...And still-Winky would DOMINATE oscar like a kid!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
That's the problem with boxing...Legacy is based on selling out arenas....instead of who's the best....Winky would beat Oscar like he has never been.
Thats because people no longer want to see 'boxing' they just want to see formless slugging at each other until one goes down. People have started to not appreciate boxing for what it is, the art of hitting and not being hit and would rather see two formless fighters get world title shots for not having skill but for bleeding and winning every fight.
Come on sweetheart. Like you didn't enjoy Corrales-Castillo 1. There was no boxing in that.
of course! :D I'm just saying that some people are more skilled and sometimes they'd rather spend money on people that go out there and get their head beat in and call that boxing rather then the true boxers out there who have a lot of skill but don't get the primetime because they aren't "exciting" in everyone else's eyes. Someone like Arturo Gatti can sell out an arena anywhere he goes. But someone like Floyd Mayweather even though he's shown his superiority wouldn't sell out an arena as fast or as quick as Arturo Gatti and the opponent matters with him it doesn't with Gatti. I was just getting at that. I love slugfests as much as any boxing fan but there are some boxers out there that deserve a chance but aren't getting it because of who they are and how they fight compared to all the 'wars' like Winky Wright went through for a while.
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Winky is ALL WRONG for Oscar plus he's too big....Winky SHOULD be able to handle Oscar but you never know, if I'm Winky I aim for big fights at 160-168
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I'm not sure that I think Winky would be too big for Oscar...because I don't buy Winky as a 160lb fighter...you can only sell yourself as something your'e not for so long.
I like Winky at 154 & honestly...I think Oscar would do fine at 154...but...
Wright didn't get the Oscar fight all those years ago for one reason...the Vargas fight.
Wright would give Oscar the most trouble out of anyone out there due to the fact of the jab, defense, jab, defense, jab, jab, defense bit that he pulls all the time. Wright is no easy fighter to figure out.
Also...you have to take into effect that Mosley is faster than Oscar & Mosley didnt fair worth a fwock against Wright.
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Wright's gonna make anyone lok bad!!! Oscar at this point doesn't need Wright. I feel Wright would win as he always does with his boxing smarts... but I give DLH the best shot at beating Wright than anyone else out there at the moment
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I'm not sure that I think Winky would be too big for Oscar...because I don't buy Winky as a 160lb fighter...you can only sell yourself as something your'e not for so long.
I like Winky at 154 & honestly...I think Oscar would do fine at 154...but...
Wright didn't get the Oscar fight all those years ago for one reason...the Vargas fight.
Wright would give Oscar the most trouble out of anyone out there due to the fact of the jab, defense, jab, defense, jab, jab, defense bit that he pulls all the time. Wright is no easy fighter to figure out.
Also...you have to take into effect that Mosley is faster than Oscar & Mosley didnt fair worth a fwock against Wright.
Yep I must agree, one of Feroz' finest performances. CC Wack
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Oscar would not fight Winky because Winky would beat his ass down especially at this stage in their careers and I think Oscar believes he has more chance of beating Floyd than Winky. I don't believe Oscar ever had ANY intention of fighting Winky even though he mentioned it as a possibility.
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if these two were to fight ocsar would in my opinion win easily
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Shows how much you know about boxing!
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if these two were to fight ocsar would in my opinion win easily
I agree with you. maybe not all that easy, but I see Dela Hoya beating Wink ! Oscar bring that hammer down
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I just don't know how he will do it. I remember the trouble Sturm gave him with teh jab.
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I just don't know how he will do it. I remember the trouble Sturm gave him with teh jab.
The fight would need to be on the lighter side, I don't like Delahoya too big ! 147 about right Oscar at 160 i don't Like he don't belong at that weight
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
That's the problem with boxing...Legacy is based on selling out arenas....instead of who's the best....Winky would beat Oscar like he has never been.
If everyone else saw things the way you and I do, boxing would not have to be looking over it's shoulders for the likes of the UFC. Boxing used to be a man's sport. Now all you see is a bunch of cowards ducking each other and just trying to make money instead of worthy fights.
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The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
You might be right. Wright one-sided pounding of Trinidad that sent Tito crawling back to Puerto Rico like a little bitch didn't help matters.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
You've definitely been really watching boxing .....glad to know you exists
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
You've definitely been really watching boxing .....glad to know you exists
Winky is great southpaw, the rule of thumb is avoid the great southpaws, fightem only when you have too!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
You might be right. Wright one-sided pounding of Trinidad that sent Tito crawling back to Puerto Rico like a little bitch didn't help matters.
As big a Tito fan as I am, I don't try to defend him for retiring like that. I'll say this though, when he was on top he fought only the best out there, win or lose and I'm proud to be a fan of his.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
You might be right. Wright one-sided pounding of Trinidad that sent Tito crawling back to Puerto Rico like a little bitch didn't help matters.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH I love your comment's! ;D Good point :coolclick:
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They wont fight because if anyone then its gonna be pretty boy for the golden boy.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
The real reason Delahoya won't fight Winky is because noone has exposed a flaw in Winky's game. If you look back at Oscars career, you will see that alot of the top guys he fought had been exposed or had their chin softened up by guys like Trinidad. Examples: Yori Boy Campas was beaten by Tito when he was 56-0 with 50 KO's, Vargas whom DLH said he would never fight until he saw Tito dismantle him to the point where he couldn't even take a punch from an old man in his next fight (Wilfredo Rivera), and of course who could forget how he followed the blueprint on picking a guy to make your comeback against (Mayorga). I'm sure everyone remebers how Trinidad looked like a god against Mayorga but it was fool's gold and this is coming from a Tito fan.
You've definitely been really watching boxing .....glad to know you exists
Winky is great southpaw, the rule of thumb is avoid the great southpaws, fightem only when you have too!
I agree 100% :coolclick: for this post!!!
