Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

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Carlos Baldomir Bio: After thirteen years of a somewhat unsuccessful career, Baldomir finally got a shot at a world title against a resurrected, and confident (or so we thought) champion in Zab "Super" Judah. Baldomir also had to travel to Judah's backyard in the world famous Madison Square Garden adding extra difficulty to his new experience in title fights. Over the course of the first six rounds, Judah out-maneuvered the slower Baldomir to take the majority of the rounds. Then in the seventh, Baldomir slammed a right hand into Judah's questionable chin causing him to lose his legs for not only the rest of the round, but for the rest of the fight. Judah spent the last five rounds on his toes trying to avoid another dose of adversity given to him in the seventh. In effect, Baldomir scored what probably will be called Upset of the Year by years end winning a unanimous decision.

Arturo Gatti bio: Arturo launched his professional fighting career on June 10th 1991 after an accomplished amateur career with a victory over Jose Gonzalez. After suffering a loss in the hands of King Solomon, "Thunder" went on a
seventeen fight winning streak prompting reigning IBF Super Featherweight titleholder Tracy Harris Patterson to give the hard punching Gatti a crack at his first world title. Gatti outboxed Patterson for twelve rounds to win his first world title. Gatti made three defenses of the title, including heart pounding performances versus Wilson Rodriguez and Gabriel Ruelas, which earned credentials as the 1997 Fight Of The Year. Then Arturo suffered the worst year of his professional career, 1998. He started off the year moving up to lightweight to face the very tricky Angel Manfredy in Atlantic City. Manfredy dropped and also stopped Gatti in the eighth round. Then Gatti went up against a solid lightweight in Ivan Robinson and was outpointed in 1998's Fight Of The Year. Robinson repeated in the rematch with a unanimous decision victory over his rival. After a relatively quiet 1999, Gatti went 3-0 in 2000 setting him up for the biggest fight of his career (at that time), Oscar De La Hoya. Gatti was down in round one and trainer Hector Rocha threw in the towel to save Gatti from De La Hoya's vicious onslaught in the fifth. Arturo took the rest of the year off but came back in 2002 to demolish former champion Terron Millet then lost in dramatic fashion to Micky Ward in yet another Fight Of The Year winner. Arturo dominated the rematch later that year then settled the score when he survived a broken right hand and a knockdown to once again defeat Ward. Gatti won his second world title January 2003 against Gianluca Branco then made two defenses (knocking out Leonard Dorin and James Leija) before putting his title on the line against possibly the best fighter in the world, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather humiliated Gatti in his backyard dropping him in the first and prompting trainer Buddy McGirt to stop the fight at the end of the sixth. A knockout of Tomas Damgaard has set Gatti up for the Baldomir challenge.

Strengths

Carlos Baldomir: Experience, Physical strength, chin, heart, and patience.

Arturo Gatti: Punching Power, hand and foot speed, combination punching, chin, and heart.

Weaknesses

Carlos Baldomir: Power, hand speed, foot speed, one-dimensional attack, and age.

Arturo Gatti: strength at welterweight, prone to cuts, right hand breaks frequently, and he can be out-muscled (shown in first bout with Ward).

The Questions

Carlos Baldomir: How he will react to a hard left hook from Gatti, Is he fast enough to compete with Gatti, Will he use his physical strength as an advantage?

Arturo Gatti: Can he hurt Baldomir at this weight, Will he be out-muscled. Will he break his hand?

What each fighter must do to win

Carlos Baldomir: Use his comfort at 147 as an advantage, push the attack, go to the body, wear Gatti down.

Arturo Gatti: Don't stand in one spot, always use combinations, stay off the ropes, try to stay out of infighting exchanges.

The Outcome
Gatti will come out moving and Baldomir stalking. Gatti will control the early rounds with his hand-speed and foot speed. I think Gatti will tire from Baldomir's aggression and allow Baldomir to come back. Baldomir will use his physical strength to dominate the late rounds and win a very close split decision.

i also heard that baldomir comes into the fight weighing ALOT MORE than the weight limit.
hope gatti knocks him the fuck out!

Baldomir wins this one easy.

Gatti is done.

I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

Im going with Baldomir in this one. I think Gatti is just too ring worn. I see the fight going the same way The Game explained it. Gatti winning early tiring out with close rounds in the middle and Baldomir winning the late rounds for a SD.

Gatti win 6th R KO

gatti to win

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

I'll take Baldomir by decision. I just don't know how much is left of Gatti. Baldomir decisioned Judah who IMO is a much better fighter than Gatti especially at this stage. I just see Baldomir grinding away & doing enough to take the win.

I think Gatti has been hit in the head more than any current welter weight,

and it's starting to show.........

Baldomir one-sided UD

I can see people saying Baldizor UD because of Gatti's age, but if anyone is basing that around the Judah fight (the one Zab gave away) then you must be destroyed :badass:

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I can see people saying Baldizor UD because of Gatti's age, but if anyone is basing that around the Judah fight (the one Zab gave away) then you must be destroyed :badass:

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No it's not based on the Judah fight, I honestly think that what Gatti has left is not enough to overcome the naturally bigger Baldomackarena

and a :coolclick: to game for the article

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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CC back pops ;D That's the thing though,I don't rate Gatti's boxing ability at all and a guy with a low KO ratio but a natural WW can still be very dangerous.Ask Ricky Hatton about Luis Collazo! Also,I think Gatti will get worn out,I don't think he can hurt Baldomir.Remember,Baldozar took the best of what Zab had to offer,and I'm sure Zab hits as hard,if not harder than Gatti.

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CC back bro,love the name(Baldomackarena ;D)

:coolclick: my friend for a great post. Maybe poeple are brushing Gatti because of his age and that he took a lot of punishment before and pikcing Baldomir because of a big win over a very good Zab Judah. But Gatti won on his return and stopped Daamgard in the 10th(I think) and Tata was outboxed in the first half of the fight until he tagged Zab with the right hand. I still think Gatti has more left in the tank that most people think, and for Baldomir this newfound confidence he got may elevate his boxing a few notches higher.

Gatti KO Round 9

Not with any confidence on my part.

Gatti is a tough son of a bitch and a ring warrior and veteran who has underrated boxing skills... Arturo Gatti can definetly hang with the best of them and Baldomir aint the best of them...

Then again is Carlos Baldomir the Glen Johnson of the Welterweight division???? I dont know but I can see Gatti pulling it out

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.

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I don't think anyone here is saying Baldomir is great, but I feel he will wear down Gatti & take the close decision. People are saying Gatti will out box him but I feel he'll get drawn into a battle & fight Baldomirs fight. If Gatti does box then it will be difficult for Baldomir, but I think Baldomir will just keep pushing & pushing, Gatti will get frustrated then it will all be on. This is where I feel Baldomir will have the advantage

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.

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I don't think anyone here is saying Baldomir is great, but I feel he will wear down Gatti & take the close decision. People are saying Gatti will out box him but I feel he'll get drawn into a battle & fight Baldomirs fight. If Gatti does box then it will be difficult for Baldomir, but I think Baldomir will just keep pushing & pushing, Gatti will get frustrated then it will all be on. This is where I feel Baldomir will have the advantage

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CC Galaxy for your string of insightful posts. Don’t always agree but do enjoy your point of view ! !

Baldomir is going to walk right into a str8 right in R 6 , and its game over ! Carlos is going to be in "Dog trouble" ! Gatti is like Rice Crispies ! He can Snap Crackle and Pop ! Gatti in 6
" Can't see the forest cause all the tree’s are in the way" - Johanson

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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CC back pops ;D That's the thing though,I don't rate Gatti's boxing ability at all and a guy with a low KO ratio but a natural WW can still be very dangerous.Ask Ricky Hatton about Luis Collazo! Also,I think Gatti will get worn out,I don't think he can hurt Baldomir.Remember,Baldozar took the best of what Zab had to offer,and I'm sure Zab hits as hard,if not harder than Gatti.

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CC back bro,love the name(Baldomackarena ;D)

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Pops?? POPS?! ;D

My thing with Baldomir is that, though his record over the last several years has been very consistant, I just dont see him as an A grade fighter. Likewise, Gatti himself is not an A level fighter. I think against fighters who are not elite then Gatti actually has a chance to look good. His skills are not effective against the best but against Baldomir who is relatively slow I expect Gatti to look surprisingly fleet and agile.

Its gonna go the distance and I see Gatti stealing the key rounds, he has a wealth of experience to draw on now. I dont expect a war, but I do expect a thriller. Gatti will use tact in this one....

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.

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CC, right back....I find it difficult to see how Baldomir is going to beat a Gatti whom I fully expect to come in with a boxing plan. I dont expect an all out war because I dont think Gatti even needs to go to war here...

To me this fight comes down to one question: Is and in shape, focused Gatti better than an outta shape unfocused Judah? I don't know myself. I'm thinking he could be so its gonna be a close fight. But if Gatti cannot hurt Baldomir then he is screwed IMO. I'm kinda rootin for Gatti, but it would be weird having him as the #1 Welterweight Champ and PBF as a belt holder.

Gatti's pressure to wear Baldomir down to stop him in the 10th.

Honestly Baldimir couldn’t punch through a paper sack ! Gatti will step to the side pop , move get another angle and catch Carlos coming in again and again all night long, and finally in round 6 Carlos walks into a str8 right and starts dreaming of sugar plums ! IMO Gatti in 6 rather easy win for Gatti IMO

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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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CC, for an interesting article, young Game

Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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If Gatti gets stunned as badly as Judah was he mad decide to go around a little more. Gatti doesn't have many years left so smart boxing is the key in this fight. Not a war

Gatti did poorly against pbf because he threw hardly any punches. If gatti would have thrown 70 punches per round and brawled with pbf, he probably would have given pbf a good go. He knew he couldn't win with speed so he should have focused on the body and jab to slow mayweather down in later rounds. You can't win a fight without throwing punches. To say gatti boxed mayweather is generous. He didn't even box. All he did was focus on his defence, he hardly threw a punch that came anywhere near pbf.

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Gatti KO Round 9

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at least you picked the right round....... ;D

i guess baldi is next for PBF.........thats fucking great. :(

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i guess baldi is next for PBF.........thats fucking great. :(

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Why not Baldomaraca v the winner of Hatton/Urkal

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Baldomir wins this one easy.

Gatti is done.

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Baldomir wins this one easy.

Gatti is done.

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stick a fork in him......I hate to see it but we knew it was going to happen sometime...he's 34.... no shame in retiring now....

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I can see people saying Baldizor UD because of Gatti's age, but if anyone is basing that around the Judah fight (the one Zab gave away) then you must be destroyed :badass:

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Bet your jaw is still sitting on the floor eh???

Baldomir is underated as a fighter in his weight class.....

For one thing, the guy walks around at a normal 190lbs, then cuts weight to fight at 147....He is bigger, Better and hits extremely hard...

I liked the fact that Gatti hit him with the best shot he had and Baldomir walked right through it,,,,when you see a man do this, know that your ass is fixxing to get kicked.....

Gatti knew better than to jump in the ring with a guy like Baldomir....

And the part about Judah giving away a fight,,,,No, he flat out got his ass kicked!!!!

Good luck,

Coach

First and foremost I wanna know how to develop big side muscles

Yeah I'm suprised at how good baldy looked in this one but it still didn't erase from my mind how easily Zab beat him to every punch before his inevitable mental breakdown. I don't think Gatti did know better, no way he or anyone else could of imagined how much the size difference would matter. I had no freakin clue he walked around at 190, just that he had a huge ugly melon that didnt look right at 147 lbs. It threw all the other factors of the fight out the window - when you're so much bigger stalking a guy down works wonders :thumb:

Couldn't tell if Gatti's previous wars had an effect either, at times I thought yes and others no. Either way, GL with being a forum tough guy/c-unt :)

Yes Size played a big difference, along with the big a** safety gloves Gatti was using and the color of the gloves was White , you can see those bad boys a mile away. , you can’t hurt your opponent with those big poweder puffs gloves. You notice Bald had on small black punchers gloves, huge difference in effectiveness. . Both fighters should have to wear the same gloves period , not just the same brand but the same style . If Gatti’s hands bothered him bad enough to wear safety gloves , he should have either pulled out of the fight or he should have soaked his hands in a numbing agent or have cortisone shots in his knuckles and wear the punchers gloves.

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Yes Size played a big difference, along with the big a** safety gloves Gatti was using and the color of the gloves was White , you can see those bad boys a mile away. , you can’t hurt your opponent with those big poweder puffs gloves. You notice Bald had on small black punchers gloves, huge difference in effectiveness. . Both fighters should have to wear the same gloves period , not just the same brand but the same style . If Gatti’s hands bothered him bad enough to wear safety gloves , he should have either pulled out of the fight or he should have soaked his hands in a numbing agent or have cortisone shots in his knuckles and wear the punchers gloves.

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All pro fighters wear the same weight gloves.....Some brands look bigger than others, but the gloves are still 10oz.

I think they were wearing the ringside pro fight gloves....

As much as I like Ringside products for amateurs, they dont have a good pro product line...

Any of my pros that fight we request for Grant Pro Fight Gloves if it is an option for us....

lol

ok BW, we believe you :)

(hopefully he'll stop saying that now)

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Yes Size played a big difference, along with the big a** safety gloves Gatti was using and the color of the gloves was White , you can see those bad boys a mile away. , you can’t hurt your opponent with those big poweder puffs gloves. You notice Bald had on small black punchers gloves, huge difference in effectiveness. . Both fighters should have to wear the same gloves period , not just the same brand but the same style . If Gatti’s hands bothered him bad enough to wear safety gloves , he should have either pulled out of the fight or he should have soaked his hands in a numbing agent or have cortisone shots in his knuckles and wear the punchers gloves.

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All pro fighters wear the same weight gloves.....Some brands look bigger than others, but the gloves are still 10oz.

I think they were wearing the ringside pro fight gloves....

As much as I like Ringside products for amateurs, they dont have a good pro product line...

Any of my pros that fight we request for Grant Pro Fight Gloves if it is an option for us....

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Your right about weight coach , but the style of glove were different. Gatti was using the 10oz boxers glove style , (more padding up front on the knuckles, ) and Baldimir was using the 10oz punchers gloves style . (More padding around the wrist and less around the knuckle) . Gatti’s gloves were loaded with foam up front, looked like safety gloves that kids fight with. LOL