7 fighters to track for the rest of 2006
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7 fighters to track for the rest of 2006
except #5 Calvin Brock.. I like Sam Peter to replace him at #5 . and David Tua says he will be fighting 4-5 more fights this year. and will stay very active, now that his court battles are over . if he do, he could also be in the mix very soon .
What up Game!!! 8)
Tony Margarito...Well ya'll know how I feel about that cat......People running scared from him.
My boy 'Bad' Chad..........shet!! he been making noise since 05' been saying it since the day I first saw him.
Viloria IMO will loose this year. I'm not saying hes not good I'm just saying if he decides to fight the top opposition out there he will loose.
Williams still not sold on him, he struggled a bit with Matthyse despite being taller, and having a better reach, still green IMO and needs to be brought along slowly. Even Mitchelle at this point might be able to give him a ruff time.
What's happening Mick? Been a while man,how have things been? I agree with what you are saying with those points except maybe Viloria..I don't see many beating that kid yet and he will only get better.
I really like Williams but he needs to shut his mouth because if he keeps calling out Tony,he is going to get KTFO and his career may go down hill. Would be reminiscent of the Cintron fight.
What is it with Margarito? I don't see it, I really don't, he beat Kermit Cintron who struggled like hell against David Estrada and knocked out some bum last time out who had already been knocked out 5 times previously.
Margarito has a big punch no doubt, but I don't really see what else he has going for him. There are no big names on his record at all.
Personally I would fancy Baldomir to beat him.
Baldo would get KTFO by Tony! Margarito is a good good fighter,and has alot of things going for him,you just have to see it.He has beaten whoever has been put in front of him(except Santos when even the Puerto Ricans thought he was winning and the 3 losses when he was a teen) and that's all one can do. I expect to see a big end to 2006 and a big 2007 and then hopefully we will all see what Toni Margarito is capable of.Sugar Shane struggled against Estrada too,he's not that bad.
:coolclick: I agree Bilbo I am Floyd fan but I have taken a step back to really examine Margarito and try look at things from an unbiased opinion since I try to be a fan of good Boxing regardless of how I like the combatants involved....Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
With Margarito I just cant see what the big deal is he has no impressive victories and isint even a top 10 pfp fighter so what gives him the right to demand a shot at the #1 PFP fighter in the world??? He has no right...If he blows someone of signifagance out then I'll be impressed other than that he is the flavor of the day..
I doubt it, Bladomir walked through Gatti's shots without blinking and wasn't bothered by Zab Judah who can definitely punch so I don't see why you think he would fall apart against Tony. Baldy has a good chin, and is a reborn fighter now. Honestly him and Margarito would be a war and I'd be rooting for Carlos.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
It's funny one guy who beat the linear champ and the number one in the division, then beat the fan's favourite warrior of the past 10 years gets no respect, whilst another guy whose biggest win is against some dude who shares his name with a frog on the muppet show, who has not beaten a single recognised fighter is regarded as the most dangerous man on the planet. ??? ::**
See thats the thing...at least me fwock it I'll put him below whoever you wan't. The people he beat ain't shet!! \Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
But he still has a belt and has a decent name so why won't people fight him?
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See. I don't get it, Tony is in the top of the 147 rankings with a belt.
So then why won't PBF & Hatton fight him? Why doesn't Baldomir wan't to fight him, Mosley declined a fight with Tony?
WHY?
Answer is simple, hes a fwocken dangerous man.
Hey Jtrock! :coolclick: missed you this past week or so buddy. Thanks for stepping out the closet and sharing your crazy belief that Margery isn't the new messiah.Quote:
Originally Posted by jtrock
We better hold on tight now and whether the storm together, those Marge lovers are coming.....RUN!!!!!!! :crowd: :OhNo: :OhNo: :crowd:
Nicely done Mick,CC. I'll do this for the last time becuase it's getting boring,peeps make out as if Tony has oufght bums,he hasn't.Quick rundown:
Gomez:Took PRIME sUGAR sHANE 10 to stop him,Mosley himself said to Tony to be careful,it's a dangerous fight.
Kyvelos-unbeaten,supposed to be a decent prospect
Martinez:go and check his record since he lost to Tony...
6 Heads-was highly regarded at the time.Former Champ
Antonio Diaz-beat Micky Ward,Ivan Robinson AND Cory Spinks.
Kermit Cintron-Supposed to be the next Tito,banging power and huge prospect. Soon to be IBF champ.
Danny Santos-Most thought Tony won but again,Santos is no bum and you will see theis when he fights Terra Garcia.
There you go,no A graders but dam sure as hell no bums either,certainly not the way it is made out.Who has he beat is a poor poor question,there are some decent fighters there.
Antonio Diaz is making a shitload of noise at 135 maybe 140 range and has already had the balls to issue a challenge to a much bigger Tony Margarito. I like this kid and he should be on the list.
Juan Diaz I am sorry, I am on my fifth Natural Ice.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrandon
:coolclick: Bilbo, good pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
I agree, no way on earth Margarito "KTFO"'s big Baldy. Baldomir is made of stone and really seems to have been a vastly underestimated force. How 2 fights turn it all around in popular perception!!!
Baldomir is now realising his potential having been given the chance. Margarito can potentially do the same. Like Baldomir he has been in the shadows and oft overlooked. But I stress again that Margarito has POTENTIAL. Whether he can step it up against the BIG names or not remains to be seen.
I think Margarito: Collazo would be a nice next move for both guys....Margarito: Baldomir would be interesting too, but I dont expect Baldomir to....ahem...get "KTFO"......
cc.......yup juan diaz is on his way up imo.......and did he really challenge tony? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by gbrandon
man your buzzed from Natural Ice....i hope you meant your on your fifth 40 of Natural Ice...j/k..
natural ice will get you fucked up in no time and its cheap..ahhhh beer :beerchug:
Weak argument as Baldo would get swamped by Margarito who is a natural WW,and no matter how good your chin is,if your standing in front of someone who throws 100 plus punches a round,all power punches,you are going to get hurt.Zab was in no way shape or form number 1 in the division,there are at least 3,possibly 4 guys that could beat him and who the hell cares if someone is fan favourite? That meakes the win bigger?Again you dismiss the list which I stated,overall Margarito has fought far far better competition than Baldo. If a guy like Badlo,with 12 kos,can have Zab on queer street and stop Gatti,someone with Cintron's power would annihilate them!Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
As for your other points,why is Baldo never mentioning Tony's name? I'll tell you why.A few years ago(I think),they sparred together and Baldo said Tony was very very powerful and that he had zero interest in fighting him.He respects Margarito which can be seen when asked who would win,Tony or Floyd,he replied in a flash,Tony.
id like to see baldi vs tony imo tony is to much for baldi and would wear him down and then KO him......but then again tony does not deserve a shot at baldi ::**
Sorry Game but your history is poor. Before Baldomir beat Judah, he was regarded as the man to beat at welterweight, the undisputed champion of the division. That was why it was going to be a mega fight when Floyd fought him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
You are arguing retrospectively as so many people on here do.
It's a fact that Tony hasn't beaten any big name fighters whilst Baldomir has beaten the undisputed welterweight champion of the world and a two time world champ in Arturo Gatti.
A quick look at Margarito's record reveals nothing much really. You mentioned Kyvelos, well just looked at him and he was knocked out in 4 by the ferocious Cosme Riveria in his next fight after Margarito, a fighter who gave Zab so much trouble ::**
Antonio Diaz was stopped in 6 by Mosely, whilst Danny Perez was beaten by Jesse Brinkely :laugh:
As I said before Gomez has 11 losses and has been knocked out now 6 times so hardly a big win, Martinez is unbeaten since but be honest have you ever heard of ANY of his opponents? I just checked, one was rated 814th in the world, hardly any of them have winning records and I didn't see a single fighter ranked in the top 100.
What is so poor about my history?I used facts ::**I said before Judah was beaten by Badlo that he was not the best in the division,I mentioned this on numerous occasions. The mega fight was because the attendance,fans there etc etc. Who actually thought Judah would win? You are looking at records now.....when Margarito fought those guys,they were unbeaten etc etc seen as dangerous.....which is what I stated.
Just because someone has all the belts does not make him the best in the division..Your argument has no purpose,to say Margarito has not fought anyone after I have stated the dangermen he has beaten is weak.....
I have only seen Baldomir fight twice, but from what I saw to hurt the guy you have to hit him with a brick.