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Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
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Last Updated: Thursday, 27 July 2006, 16:08 GMT 17:08 UK
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Bouncer guilty of uppercut murder
A bouncer and former boxer who punched a man so hard he fell to the ground and fractured his skull has been convicted of murder.
Garry Delaney, 35, who denied murder, lifted Paul Price off his feet with the blow, the Old Bailey was told.
The trial heard Mr Price, 23, had gone to remonstrate with Delaney who had thrown his friend James Farrell out of a hotel in Woodford, east London.
Delaney knew the punch would cause "really serious harm", the court heard.
Delaney was seen to hit him in the face with an uppercut which lifted him off the ground
Alan Suckling QC
Mr Price fell backwards and hit his head on the ground, fracturing his skull.
The trial heard he had been turned away with Mr Farrell from an over-35s disco in October 2005, for not meeting the dress code.
They went to the hotel's bar instead, but the barman thought Mr Farrell was being "troublesome" and asked Delaney to remove him.
The trial heard Delaney then appeared to spray Mr Farrell in the face with a substance that made him scream.
He dragged him outside and dumped him in shrubbery which led Mr Price to go outside to "remonstrate verbally" with Delaney, the court was told.
"Delaney was seen to hit him in the face with an uppercut which lifted him off the ground," said Alan Suckling QC, prosecuting.
He said Delaney was "an experienced professional boxer who would know such a blow done deliberately by him was likely to cause really serious harm".
Delaney, from Newham, east London, had fought at light heavyweight and cruiser weight and was working as a licensed doorman when he killed Mr Price.
He is due to be sentenced on Friday.
Now I remember why I never took up boxing myself :P
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
Damn, that's gotta suck. I hear if you beat someone up, they'll go worse on you if you're a boxer or martial artist of some kind.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
That Delaney guy should get sentenced for murder...I dont care if it was accidental you cant just kill someone and get off the hook. Especially since that guy was an ex-boxer he has to know the damage a punch like that can cause. Granted, he was probably just expecting to f*ck the guy up real good but even so...
Speaking of which It doesnt take much to f*ck someone up! I got into a fight at a bar about a month ago and I took a few punches in the face...nothing big, nothing even hurt they all seemed like jabs at the time (granted I was drunk). Then I wake up the next day and my face looks like it got hit by a freaking truck! Had a nasty, bloody black eye and the whole right side of my face was swollen, discolored, and bruised. It took about a week and a half to heal and I had to hear, "Oh my god, what happened to your face!??!" about 30 times a day lol.
And that kids, is why you dont get into street fights.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
He never demonstrated that kind of power in the boxing ring .
I remember him getting stopped by Bruce Scot and then both men chatted in the dressing room after . Delaneys woman was there too and she looked like shed been picked up from a club . Not bad ( I wuldnt say no ) but he wont be picking up birds anymore cuz he deserves to be put away .
Hes a big heavy guy picking on a kid
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
I'm no expert, but to get convicted of murder doesn't there have to be intent to kill? Not condoning what happend in anyway, but I am sure he didn't mean to kill the guy.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I'm no expert, but to get convicted of murder doesn't there have to be intent to kill? Not condoning what happend in anyway, but I am sure he didn't mean to kill the guy.
Yes, but at least here in the states if you are a professional martial artist or professional boxer (even retired) your hands and feet are considered lethal weapons, so in the eyes of the law it would be like saying I didn't mean to shoot him dead, just fuck him up. Bottom line he killed a guy, and what was his reason to begin with?
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i aggree that a Proffessional boxer should know that he could cause serious damage to anyone with a punch. And using the skills he obtained to intentionally hurt someone is wrong, and that person should be punished. HOWEVER, We dont know what happend, and i know first hand, that when its known that you EVEN GO TO A BOXING GYM, everyone wants a piece of you.Even if you dont intend on making it a career, everyone wants to take out the "boxer" (doesnt mean it goes for this case, because none of us have seen a trial, or anything else.). Im not saying he isnt guilty, but i wouldnt be surprised if he was getting pushed around by someone WITHOUT a uniform. I have seen lots of cases in my area with "bouncers" not having a "staff" shirt on of some type, and trying to kick someone out, only to get ktfo in the process because the person getting "bounced" didnt know who the F*** it was pushing them off the stool.
Just a thought
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
We can only assume that there was no provocation of any kind, if there was he would have had something of a defence, it would appear that he didnt.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
you do the crime you serve the time
from my experience door man are bullys, who probably got picked on when they were younger so are taking libertys with there jobs now. although i have met a couple of nice bouncers but they are a rare breed
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Originally Posted by warreng
you do the crime you serve the time
from my experience door man are bullys, who probably got picked on when they were younger so are taking libertys with there jobs now. although i have met a couple of nice bouncers but they are a rare breed
cc, I second that.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
how many doormen have you met that were boxers?
If i was a doorman, and i boxed pro, last thing i want is to be known for beatin up "Civilians".
Again, im not saying he isnt guilty, just playing devils advocate. ;D
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
he didn't kill the man...hitting the ground fractured the man's skull which then resulted in the man dying....I would be shocked if he got anymore than manslaughter...if that...
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I'm no expert, but to get convicted of murder doesn't there have to be intent to kill? Not condoning what happend in anyway, but I am sure he didn't mean to kill the guy.
exactly......it wasn't like he beat the man with a ball bat or shot him...he hit him.....reckless endangerment/assault.....maybe manslaughter....definitely not murder.....
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i actually know of 1 doorman thats boxer and 2 that are kickboxers and 2 of the 3 are grade A pricks. he may not of battered him or intended to seriously hurt him, but im confident he probably didnt need to do what he did to the poor drunken chap in order to sort out the situation.i have several friends who are amatuer boxers and when im out with them they will do almost anything to get out of a confrontation with other drunken members of the public. that delaney bloke jus seems to fall in to bouncer arsehole category, although you would of had to be there to know
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He packs a killer punch and still has time to tweeze his eyebrows...those things are sharper looking then my girlfriend's eyebrows.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by BIG H
if you are a professional martial artist or professional boxer (even retired) your hands and feet are considered lethal weapons
Do you reckon this lethal weapon argument would apply to Cory Spinks? Personally I think he would walk free after footage from his fight career would prove decisively that any injury to the man could not have been caused by a punch!!! :P
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
Remember Delaney was a real hard puncher in the ring with lots of heavy knockouts.
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I remember him well, because of his big punching. Wore West Ham shorts.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
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Originally Posted by GAME
He never demonstrated that kind of power in the boxing ring .
I remember him getting stopped by Bruce Scot and then both men chatted in the dressing room after . Delaneys woman was there too and she looked like shed been picked up from a club . Not bad ( I wuldnt say no ) but he wont be picking up birds anymore cuz he deserves to be put away .
Hes a big heavy guy picking on a kid
he went out with jodie marsh for a long time,he used to batter her apparently,i dont blame him id probably batter her aswell.
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Originally Posted by leon9996
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Originally Posted by GAME
He never demonstrated that kind of power in the boxing ring .
I remember him getting stopped by Bruce Scot and then both men chatted in the dressing room after . Delaneys woman was there too and she looked like shed been picked up from a club . Not bad ( I wuldnt say no ) but he wont be picking up birds anymore cuz he deserves to be put away .
Hes a big heavy guy picking on a kid
he went out with jodie marsh for a long time,he used to batter her apparently,i dont blame him id probably batter her aswell.
Hmmm?
Thats a bit of an accusation! Who told you, Jodie marsh?
Tc
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Originally Posted by leon9996
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Originally Posted by GAME
He never demonstrated that kind of power in the boxing ring .
I remember him getting stopped by Bruce Scot and then both men chatted in the dressing room after . Delaneys woman was there too and she looked like shed been picked up from a club . Not bad ( I wuldnt say no ) but he wont be picking up birds anymore cuz he deserves to be put away .
Hes a big heavy guy picking on a kid
he went out with jodie marsh for a long time,he used to batter her apparently,i dont blame him id probably batter her aswell.
:o He went out with Jodie Marsh! Poor bastard, I think the judge will have to take that into consideration. IMO the duration of their relationship should count towards time served....poor poor guy :P
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Originally Posted by leon9996
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Originally Posted by GAME
He never demonstrated that kind of power in the boxing ring .
I remember him getting stopped by Bruce Scot and then both men chatted in the dressing room after . Delaneys woman was there too and she looked like shed been picked up from a club . Not bad ( I wuldnt say no ) but he wont be picking up birds anymore cuz he deserves to be put away .
Hes a big heavy guy picking on a kid
he went out with jodie marsh for a long time,he used to batter her apparently,i dont blame him id probably batter her aswell.
It might have been Jodie Marsh actually. Didnt get a good view of her face
Last time we saw here she was coming to the ring with David Haye before he got battered by Thompson . She doesnt bring her men much luck does she ;D
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
What a fooking lunatic, im pleased he went down. Bouncers take things a lil far at times.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
A real bouncer will never throw a punch as they are trained to diffuse the situation, and then use force, but grappling. Not uppercutting folk. Unfortunately, most bouncers are thugs, and wankers, and bullys. thats why you can shout at them, and they cant come off there step
But make sure you can run quick, Haha
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
Like the previous writer I also knew a bouncer who was a real A grade prick.
I worked as a bouncer in pubs in Australia and I chucked the job in, as being an
Ahole seemed to be a requisite and working with this guy was not my idea of a "job" He seemed to thrive on starting fights with patrons until one night he
started one,hurt a patron badly and was arrested for GBH.When he appeared in court he got a severe basting from the magistrate who sentenced him to three
months imprisonment.He got his biggest shock when he was KO'd in his first day in jail and had to be hospitalised.When he was released from hospital he was
held in a special unit "for his own protection".Needless to say upon his release
from prison he was a much more subdued person.What goes around comes around.Is that the saying? Big chance that Delaney will suffer the same fate.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I'm no expert, but to get convicted of murder doesn't there have to be intent to kill? Not condoning what happend in anyway, but I am sure he didn't mean to kill the guy.
No. It can be murder either way. You're thinking of premeditated homicide.
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
Ive seen alot of bouncers that cant fight . Delaney is obvioulsy a bouncer that can fight but most of these guys havent got a clue how to punch correctly , they throw their shots wide , leave themselves open and off balance . They get knackered quickly and rely on back up . I saw this little kid skooling 1 once and it was an embarassment
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it said in the papers ( and had a picture of) jodie marsh crying outside the courts after his sentece had been passed, she said she was glad that he was going to jail because whille they were a couple he would beat her, she says she put up with hell for 3 years from him and why did it have to take for him to kill someone b4 he was put away, apparently he's always been violent ( apart from when he was in the ring)
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Re: Gary Delaney on murder charge, Kills man with one punch!
This should be manslaughter at the most, its a fact that he didnt intend to kill him.
Shit happens life goes on, ( obviously not for some ;D )
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Originally Posted by Sheps
This should be manslaughter at the most, its a fact that he didnt intend to kill him.
S*** happens life goes on, ( obviously not for some ;D )
Of course the real tragedy here is that he obviously didn't hit Jodie hard enough. :P
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Originally Posted by warreng
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Dont worry mate, you just need 3 more posts and the veil of secrecy will be removed and you too will have the power. :goodvsevil:
You are doing well my young padawan
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Originally Posted by warreng
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Thankyou my apprentice, here have one yourself and go in peace
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Sheps
This should be manslaughter at the most, its a fact that he didnt intend to kill him.
S*** happens life goes on, ( obviously not for some ;D )
Of course the real tragedy here is that he obviously didn't hit Jodie hard enough. :P
:lol:
I know I shouldn't laugh and I dont condone violence towards women in any way shape or form! but between me and the rest of you how many of you would just love to uppercut Jodie Marsh so hard that is "lifts her off her feet" ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by steady_E
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Sheps
This should be manslaughter at the most, its a fact that he didnt intend to kill him.
S*** happens life goes on, ( obviously not for some ;D )
Of course the real tragedy here is that he obviously didn't hit Jodie hard enough. :P
:lol:
I know I shouldn't laugh and I dont condone violence towards women in any way shape or form! but between me and the rest of you how many of you would just love to uppercut Jodie Marsh so hard that is "lifts her off her feet" ;D ;D
Yup everybody just form an orderly line behind the man with the gloves.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I'm no expert, but to get convicted of murder doesn't there have to be intent to kill? Not condoning what happend in anyway, but I am sure he didn't mean to kill the guy.
Spot on fella
He can't get done for murder at all,it'll be a manslaughter charge all day long 8)