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Yet another foreign fighter was robbed in the US last night. Why do the public accept that the refs and the judges always protect and help US fighters against guest boxers?
Maybe guest boxers to the US should do like Jeff Lacy did when he fought in Europe – he brought his own ref!.....
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Sultan was robbed but thats just the politics of boxing. Lmao at the Lacy thing
who did sultan fight?
He fought Ray Austin, a real "big" (6' 6", 250 Lbs.) awkward dude. It was a draw, but I felt the Russian had the edge and stunned the giant three times; floored him once. A fair ESPN Friday night fight to watch; both would be KOed by Wladimir Klitschko or Nikolai Valuev. As a matter of fact, Samuel Peter could take both out. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by warreng
The fight was horrible & to classify Ray Austin as "a real "big" (6' 6", 250 Lbs.) awkward dude" is way off mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raeder
He's big...but he aint awkward.
Ibrag is not going to meet his hype & that was no robbery.
Generally the US judges are more corrupt than the city of Newark under Mayor Sharp James
Please man there ar plenty of US fighters that have gotten the shaft in Europe, so stop your pissing and moaning...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory Booker
A few weeks ago everyone was saying how Warriors got the home town call with Urango.
Now, on the same network, in the same arena, another Warriors boxer loses and you say he was robbed?
So which is it? Does Warriors get the home town calls or do they not?
If anything this was a MUCH MUCH more important bout for Warrors. So if they are going to 'buy' a win, this would have been the one to get.
Sultan wasn't robbed. I think a draw is a fine outcome because neither of these guys should be fighting Wlad. However, if I was going to call someone the winner it would be Sultan.
Ray Austin may not be "awkward" but if someone calls him a speed fighter I'll eat my hat. What a sloth...
It was a draw. Cry me a river.
I agree, draw was a fair call.
Just proves that Warriors is not getting the home town decisions. This easily could have gone Sultan's way without much controversy.
What goes around comes around. This is just payback for those Europeans robbing Jeff Lacy of his hard earned win over Joe Calzaghe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory Booker
Like others have said, there is no way either of these guys should be fighting Wlad Klitshcho. I'm sure Wlad wants an easy opponent, but come on! And this was hardly a blatent robbery, I had Sultan winning by a point but he is hardly "Mike Tyson, except technically a little better" like his boxing coach claimed. He's just a ugly flabby little Russian troll. Remember also that Austin should have gotten credit for TWO knockdowns, not just one. The fight was decent with some good spots but not great like Joe Tessitore was claimiing. Wasn't a bad robbery either. A draw saved em both from goin to the slaugher at the hands of a giant fairy(Wlad).
It wasn't robbery. It was just a case of Sultan showing how overrated he really was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory Booker
I agree that a lot of forreign boxers are getting robbed by judges and cheated by refs and I have posted here about this very thing.
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
I LOVE LACY AND I AM AMERICAN BUT.................DID U JUST SAY THAT ? CALZAGHE FWACKING SCHOOLED HIM IN EVERY AREA OF BOXING.... LACY JUST WASNT READY.... gAME FIGHTER BUT cALZAGE(AND THIS IS WHY HE PISSES ME OFF) IS THE BEST IN THE DIV.... NO DOUBT. YANKS LOVE HIM CONTRARY TO POP BELEIF.. I DO ANYWAY. BUT HE IS FRIGGIN INDECISIVE AND IT MAKES HIM LOOK LIKE A COWARD... CALZAGHE..... BEST # 168
I think he thinks that they put something in Lacy's water ;D
It looked to me that ibragimov took almost every round. I don't know how they got a draw out of this fight. It was nowhere near a slugfest, but also, it was no where near a draw either.
How about we have a new rule:
If the fight is close, you cant call it a robbery, even if the guy you were rooting for lost.
This is like Taylor vs Wright all over again
a draw was totally fair, and as hulk said, Austin should have had 2 10-8 rounds but one clear kd was scored a slip. they both looked like shite anyway, so who cares?
Too true, after this fight I don't think either of them deserve a title shotQuote:
Originally Posted by shza
Byron Mitchell - Sven Ottke anyone? Don't bother with him jtrock, he's just another racist ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jtrock
haha yeh man i was waitin for someone to bring up this guys post , u no im not even agrivated about the claim lacy beat calzaghe i gives me a chuckleQuote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF PROVIDENCE"
peace.
Take a complimentary sad click from me. That fight was no robbery, as the others have already told you. Ray Austin had very little skill but he had enough to earn a fair draw against Ibragimov and towards the end of the fight Ibragimov should be thankful he didnt lose as Austin finished much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory Booker
OK let's see here do more Foreign fighters get robbed here in the US or do more Foreign fighters get robbed in, let's say GERMANY (Svenn Ottke anyone)?
You're a jackass but I was meaning to ask about this fight...apparently Austin did alright he got knocked down though right? Twice?
not sure bout twice but he did ok fairly anuf not for it to be amazingly controversial i mean he knocked down sultan, i jus believe sultan is better and something went wrong for him, apparently the ibf believes the same cos hes still getting the title shot thou he didnt officially win...
but dont hold me to these opinions cos i onli saw espns highlights peeps.
...I never saw anything but all I know is a DRAW means Wlad might get a shot at another title if King is ready for a HUGE fight.
Wlad-Valuev is a big showdown...giant vs giant pure skill vs an "undefeated" circus freak
lol got that right, but u know ive not seen many vlad fights but if he's like his brother he'll drop valuev, or failing that mayb rahman can pull of an upset similar to the giant one vs lennox all that time ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Again...that was no robbery...Austin did just enough to win...& Ibrag did enough to give him the edge.
Wack ass fight.
oh please, neither fighter is prime time and it was a draw because Sultan won the last round.
i think it was on boxing after dark... not sure but fair point theres certainly not alot of genuine contenders in the heavywieght division i mean it wasnt billed as a big fight and it was a title eliminator.
also does anyone know anything about the rumours david haye is moving to the heavy wieght division because fairly soon i think he could dominate given the right fights and opportunity's
Yes there are MANY contenders given the lack of big time fights being made due to DK's fighters being protected...and yeah it's JUST Don King's fighters being protected hell look at their next match ups and you'll see the guys with tougher more dangerous fights aren't Don King fighters.
Wlad is the only heavyweight legitmatly trying to prove himself
Rahman seems to want the big fights too Maskaev is older but still considering what he did to him last time it's a good fight
Valuev and Lyahkovich are fighting BUMS and that won't change
Haye might be able to survive vs the smaller guys but I don't see anything special in him at cruiser much less heavyweight...I mean if stamina is an issue at less than 200 then it'll grow as he does
fair point about haye.
i reckon the toney-peters fight may well be good. n yer there are too many fighters bieng protected, i mean i have to see this beast from the east face off againt one the legitamately powerful heavyweight contenders see how good he really is cos i mean who couldnt beat ruiz? i mean for a while i figured i mite call out jonny boy lol, another thing that anoys me bout ruiz is his name , the quiet man, ive never seen a man like him who opens his gob and shite drops out,hes pretty much pathetic
Ruiz was boring as fuk and loved to hold but check his resume you'll see he beat some pretty good fighters. Has bigger wins than even the mighty Klitschko. Rahman, Holyfield. Oquendo, Golota etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by body head banger
hi royal... ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory Booker
thats alright brother, It amuses me(Royal) Its like picking on a drunk idiot :coolclick: Thanks for the admonishment thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by raleights
lets not forget the fact that Sultan himself suffered a 10-8 round in that fight as well.....the fight was called correctly....Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
this was by far not a robbery......not even close...just be glad they didn't count the second knockdown of sultan......he should be happy with the draw....Quote:
Originally Posted by maracho