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please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
i know barrera got stopped but was he winning on points at the time? and whats this i hear about a metal plate in his head
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
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Originally Posted by warreng
i know barrera got stopped but was he winning on points at the time? and whats this i hear about a metal plate in his head
He wasn't winning on points & the metal plate was something that had been done a while ago to correct an imperfection in his noggin...not boxing related.
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
was it just a 1 sided beating? do you think he would ever get back in the ring with him or has he learnt his lesson? i still cant believe pacman started as a fly. if he beats morales again the only fight left for him in super feather would be juarez if he can beat barrera,if not do you think he would ever move up to lightweight?
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
Manny pretty much destroyed Barrera it was a hell of a dismantling here is the footage when Pac stopped him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Bmx...earch=PACQUIAO
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
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Originally Posted by warreng
was it just a 1 sided beating? do you think he would ever get back in the ring with him or has he learnt his lesson? i still cant believe pacman started as a fly. if he beats morales again the only fight left for him in super feather would be juarez if he can beat barrera,if not do you think he would ever move up to lightweight?
Yeah...it was a pretty tuff beating.
There have been a shatload of talks about a rematch...but I don't know if I'd take it, were I Barrera.
I'd rather Pac stay where he is now than move up, I want to see a Juan Manuel Marquez rematch Pacquiao than I would Barrera. That was an unbelievable fight.
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yeah i saw that 1. i thought marquez won that 1 actually. i heard pac man turned it down to go after morales, dont know if theres any truth in that
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
Pac got Barrera on a bad night . Marco hadnt really been a in any proper fights for a while he was just showcasing against guys like Tapia and Kelley whereas here he was taken by surprise by a young guy who wanted to win real bad .
He wasnt comfortable with the pace and things went from bad to worse as he got cut . We know his training was interupted in Big bear by the Forrest fires and it showed in the ring as he wasnt in his usual shape and couldnt fight with the intensity we saw against Morales .
He may have taken the job easy but if they did it again he would make that mistake
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Originally Posted by warreng
was it just a 1 sided beating? do you think he would ever get back in the ring with him or has he learnt his lesson? i still cant believe pacman started as a fly. if he beats morales again the only fight left for him in super feather would be juarez if he can beat barrera,if not do you think he would ever move up to lightweight?
Yeah...it was a pretty tuff beating.
There have been a shatload of talks about a rematch...but I don't know if I'd take it, were I Barrera.
I'd rather Pac stay where he is now than move up, I want to see a Juan Manuel Marquez rematch Pacquiao than I would Barrera. That was an unbelievable fight.
Am I correct in thinking Pacquiao has yet to win a superfeatherweight world title yet? Amazing but possibly true.......
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
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Originally Posted by GAME
He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
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He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
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He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
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Originally Posted by GAME
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He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
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The ring was the first place to start ranking fighter's, you use the word corrupt but I asume you follow the alphabet boys. Have a look at the ring champions & tell me they don't derseve their championships, & who you think should be champ instead. At least the Ring doesn't strip, you gotta loss you title or move up.
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
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Originally Posted by warreng
i know barrera got stopped but was he winning on points at the time? and whats this i hear about a metal plate in his head
He was dropped 3 times(one ruled a slip) and lost every round except the first. Fight should have been stopped earlier. Barerra was open for everything that night. And then he fights Juarez and looks like it.. but Barerra fights someone twice he does better the second time usually.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by GAME
He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
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He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
Chur bro, at least you know whats going on. If you go by any other championships your fooling yourself.
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He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
Chur bro, at least you know whats going on. If you go by any other championships your fooling yourself.
You carry on being brainwashed but myself and many others can see for them selves whos the best . We dont nned to be told by a publication adding thneir own titles to the farcial amount we already have . These belts dont mean shit .
Now originally you said Pac was featherweight champ then failed to provide me with the specifics . In 10 years time when people are looking on boxerec it wont say he beat fighter a for the championship . He didnt win or lose a title in that weight class. Whether he was number 1 is irrelevant , point is he wasnt champ
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by GAME
He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
Chur bro, at least you know whats going on. If you go by any other championships your fooling yourself.
You carry on being brainwashed but myself and many others can see for them selves whos the best . We dont nned to be told by a publication adding thneir own titles to the farcial amount we already have . These belts dont mean S*** .
Now originally you said Pac was featherweight champ then failed to provide me with the specifics . In 10 years time when people are looking on boxerec it wont say he beat fighter a for the championship . He didnt win or lose a title in that weight class. Whether he was number 1 is irrelevant , point is he wasnt champ
All you need todo is look at a recent Ring boxing Almanac, under World title lineage & it's all there in black & white.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by GAME
He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
Two great fighters, 1 American, one britsh... we all now who would get the belt
As for the topic at hand, i think abrrer should of gotten back into the ring with pac after the third morales fight, he was at his best then and would of beaten pac, within the 12 rounds imo
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He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
Two great fighters, 1 American, one britsh... we all now who would get the belt
As for the topic at hand, i think abrrer should of gotten back into the ring with pac after the third morales fight, he was at his best then and would of beaten pac, within the 12 rounds imo
Well said preme , you know your stuff
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by GAME
He didnt win the featherweight title or the superfeather weight title . He keeps fighting Morales but he needs to fight the champion
I don't know what your on about but Pacquiao was the featherweight champion. He relinquished that championship to move up to Jr.L. As for Pacquioa/ Barrera it was a one sided beating. Barrera got a knockdown that was clearly a slip then it was all over. manny just swarmed all over him. Barrera had the opportunity for an immediate rematch but didn't take it. If a rematch emerged I think the exact same thing would happen.
"the featherweight champion " is abit nebulous. Could you provide me with the name of th sanctioning body of which Pacquiao was champion ?
If you don't know then your part of the problem in boxing. But I'll help you out... The Ring champion. The only belt that counts. All these alphabet groups are ruining the sport. At least the ring is trying to bring some credibility back to the champions.
I dont need your help . If wana go by what a corrupt biased Yank Magazine says then thats your problem . They can promote whoever they choose but I think the fans can decide for themsleves and see who the best is out there .
They can give the ring belt to whoever they want and they do .Sometimes it may be deserving sometimes it may be BS but we can make that decison
Given that the ring magazine is aimed at fight fans, why would it make sense to go against what the majority of fans think to be the true champions... what would that agenda acheive... except to alienate readers and destroy the magazine and belt's credibility (or in 3 words: make, no, Money)?
Two great fighters, 1 American, one britsh... we all now who would get the belt
As for the topic at hand, i think abrrer should of gotten back into the ring with pac after the third morales fight, he was at his best then and would of beaten pac, within the 12 rounds imo
Well said preme , you know your stuff
Only cause the American would knock the British guy out!!! But seriously then how come Calzaghe is the super-middleweight champion? I know he's from Wales but he beat an American in Lacy.
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Re: please tell me what happened when pacman n barrera fought
Barerra got his head whooped. Thats what happened. Was rooting for Pacquiao so I was happy ;D
