Warren: - Do you want Calzaghe, Roy?

Warren - Do you want Calzaghe, Roy?

02.08.06 - By Mark Pickering: Frank Warren has declared that WBO/IBO Super Middleweight Champion Joe Calzaghe would welcome a showdown with Roy Jones Jr. after the four-time world champion outpointed Prince Badi Ajamu on Saturday. Jones, 37, posted his 50th career win in a one-sided clinic in Boise, Idaho, to end a run of three defeats and temporarily silence his detractors. The American announced in his post-fight interview that he’s targeting a shot at Calzaghe, which the Welshman’s camp promptly responded too.

“If he does want to carry on fighting, then a meeting with Calzaghe makes sense and I'd be very interested in promoting it,” said Warren.

The Pride Of Wales was expected to face Jones at the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, in July but the fight did not materialise due to the American’s financial demands and Calzaghe being forced off his homecoming card with a recurrence of his hand injury sustained against Evans Ashira in September.

"If he is serious, all Jones has to do is pick up the phone and get in contact, and then we can talk."

While Calzaghe is forecasted to defend his super-middleweight titles later this year, a bout with Jones would assumably be contested at light-heavyweight forcing him to step up for the first time in his professional career. .

Alternatively, the double champion may entertain the option of fighting the winner of September 2nd’s IBF light-heavyweight clash between Glen Johnson and Sheffield, England’s Clinton Woods at the Bolton Arena.

MPPickering@hotmail.com

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=7794&more=1

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I guess that we all know that neither RJJ or Hopkins has the balls to deal with Calzaghe

:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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yup...if they wanted to fight calzaghe they should of gone after him like lacy, but same goes for calzaghe, if he wants to call out jones and bhop he should be willing to came here for them......

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:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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yup...if they wanted to fight calzaghe they should of gone after him like lacy, but same goes for calzaghe, if he wants to call out jones and bhop he should be willing to came here for them......

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Calzaghe was at one time but Hopkins being the smart guy that he is didn't wanna know ;)

"I have no problems taking the fight on his territory," said the 31-year-old Calzaghe. "My message to him is: 'You want it, you got it.' He can have it anywhere and any time."

Calzaghe underlined his determination to get the fight, laying down a challenge to Hopkins. "Don't find an excuse to let our fight slip away," he said. "I have taken up your challenge to face you in America, so honour your words."
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/s...991029,00.html

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:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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yup...if they wanted to fight calzaghe they should of gone after him like lacy, but same goes for calzaghe, if he wants to call out jones and bhop he should be willing to came here for them......

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Calzaghe was at one time but Hopkins being the smart guy that he is didn't wanna know ;)

"I have no problems taking the fight on his territory," said the 31-year-old Calzaghe. "My message to him is: 'You want it, you got it.' He can have it anywhere and any time."

Calzaghe underlined his determination to get the fight, laying down a challenge to Hopkins. "Don't find an excuse to let our fight slip away," he said. "I have taken up your challenge to face you in America, so honour your words."
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/s...991029,00.html

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why is it so hard for fights above welter to just get done?....everyone talks, but no one gets in the ring IMO....that goes for all sides of the table.....

Above welter? take a look directly at welter right now, criminal.

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yup welter and above.....

Welter and above? take a look at light...........just kidding ;D

I don't think this will happen as Jones will price himself out of it
Simple as
And if it does then Calzaghe would systematically batter him into the retirement he should have took 3 years ago 8)
Calzaghe v's Allan Green is Joes most competetive fight out there right now IMO.

I guess that we all know that neither RJJ or Hopkins has the balls to deal with Calzaghe

[/quote] ::** that's a pretty bold statement there.......I don't think either one of them ducked Calzaghe.....B-HOP was setting records and RJJ was going for bigger and better things (Heavyweight title anyone?) so I think the ducking call is a bit far fetched.......by the way...Is it me or does Joe C comes up with injuries at the most opportune times??????

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there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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I guess that we all know that neither RJJ or Hopkins has the balls to deal with Calzaghe

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::** that's a pretty bold statement there.......I don't think either one of them ducked Calzaghe.....B-HOP was setting records and RJJ was going for bigger and better things (Heavyweight title anyone?) so I think the ducking call is a bit far fetched.......by the way...Is it me or does Joe C comes up with injuries at the most opportune times??????
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I wont fault Joe for his injuries, on the other hand thats a huge problem I have in boxing is the Ref and judges, if I was a great Brithish champion or fighter I would be afraid to get my title gaffed from me for political reasons if I came to the US, like wise if I was a great American champion or fighter I would be afraid to travel as well, so as are conondrum we face here.......We can as 2 nations( US, Great Britian) can sling arrows about each others fighters and calling them cowards and duckers for not traveling(which is idiotic and counter-productive) since it is a problem both face...Unfortunately I see no resolve to this anytime soon

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there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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Please Buddy!!!!, The fact that you bring McClellan vs Benn and twist it your way amazes me, seeing that was one of the most crooked officiating Home Cooked fights probably on record...

1) Benn was TKO'D in the 1st round not to mention he benefitted from a long count...Dont dare argue about that either when McClellan overwhelmed Benn he was out on his feet couldnt even keep his hands up and intelligently defend himself and fell through the ropes...

2)When the piece of Shit crooked Ref gave Benn the long count he also held McClellan back on 2 Occasions for no reason other than to let Benn recover....

3) Why was Benn allowed to Club and punch McClellan on the back of the head the whole fight????(Cause Benn alway did that in his fights)
4) That son of a bitch crooked Ref should of been thrown out of Boxing he did no one a favor that nite..
The fact that you would venerate and celebrate such a fight amuses me seeing that fight was such a Black eye on British boxing IMO...

Because of that officiating job you Ended the Normal life of a Great American fighter and Prematurely ended the career of a Great British fighter Seeing that he was Shot and never the same after that fight.. Hardly anything to be proud of ::**That is a perfect reason Why any fighter would want to stay on his turf whether he was British or American

Calzage is Great but to say if he fought Hopkins or Jones years ago and would have annihalated is ludicrous and not a well thought of intelligent statement....

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NO
there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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ahh...the old Mclellan fight.......the fight that should have been stopped in the first round when Benn was knocked out of the friggin ring!!!!!!!!! Hard to beat a guy if they keep giving him a 20 count.....

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NO
there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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Please Buddy!!!!, The fact that you bring McClellan vs Benn and twist it your way amazes me, seeing that was one of the most crooked officiating Home Cooked fights probably on record...

1) Benn was TKO'D in the 1st round not to mention he benefitted from a long count...Dont dare argue about that either when McClellan overwhelmed Benn he was out on his feet couldnt even keep his hands up and intelligently defend himself and fell through the ropes...

2)When the piece of S*** crooked Ref gave Benn the long count he also held McClellan back on 2 Occasions for no reason other than to let Benn recover....

3) Why was Benn allowed to Club and punch McClellan on the back of the head the whole fight????(Cause Benn alway did that in his fights)
4) That son of a bitch crooked Ref should of been thrown out of Boxing he did no one a favor that nite..
The fact that you would venerate and celebrate such a fight amuses me seeing that fight was such a Black eye on British boxing IMO...

Because of that officiating job you Ended the Normal life of a Great American fighter and Prematurely ended the career of a Great British fighter Seeing that he was Shot and never the same after that fight.. Hardly anything to be proud of ::**That is a perfect reason Why any fighter would want to stay on his turf whether he was British or American

Calzage is Great but to say if he fought Hopkins or Jones years ago and would have annihalated is ludicrous and not a well thought of intelligent statement....

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I couldn't have said it better....

Benn hammered him
Simple really
We don't let our fighters "Tickle" over here girls
We let em fight like men. 8)

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Benn hammered him
Simple really
We don't let our fighters "Tickle" over here girls
We let em fight like men. 8)

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more like street fighters/thugs......it's called boxing....

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:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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Why should they have to leave lol? Any fighter who's got half a brain knows all the money and exposure is in the US, and they're already here. Doesn't make sense, especially for Roy after that whole mess in the olympics.

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Originally Posted by Smashup

NO
there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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hehe while you know I'm a huge Calzaghe fan, you act like any of these guys had a chance at beating Jones in his prime :)

It's no secret he ducked Benn and Collins
FACT ;D

Didnt Warren give Hatton hell for taking on Maussa aftre Tszyu, backward step or sumink?

Im sure thats what I read in his column in the Sunday Sport.

As a money spinner I get it, but I dont want to see Calzaghe whack Jones out, means nothing.

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NO
there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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Please Buddy!!!!, The fact that you bring McClellan vs Benn and twist it your way amazes me, seeing that was one of the most crooked officiating Home Cooked fights probably on record...

1) Benn was TKO'D in the 1st round not to mention he benefitted from a long count...Dont dare argue about that either when McClellan overwhelmed Benn he was out on his feet couldnt even keep his hands up and intelligently defend himself and fell through the ropes...

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Benn did beat that count buts its irrelevant anyway the rules were that If a boxer is legally knocked outside the ring he'll have 20 seconds to return unaided. ;)

Calzaghe would "Duff him up"

Eh Fenster.?

hahhahahahaa
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It's no secret he ducked Benn and Collins
FACT ;D

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I watched that old video where the 3 of them we on camera....Jones was the one issueing the challenge telling those other 2 how they had no chance and neither one spoke up to RJJ...whatever....

Are you thinking of James Toney?

Yeah That was Tooney you Donut ;D
The Eubank/ Benn interview with Mickey Rourke.
Think you should Log Off Now ;D

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Are you thinking of James Toney?

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ahhh...I think you are right....I knew it was either RJJ or JToney but nevertheless he called them out.....neither took him up on it though.... cc for the correction though..:)

For what its worth I think Jones Jnr at the time would have pissed on all our boys.

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Yeah That was Tooney you Donut ;D
The Eubank/ Benn interview with Mickey Rourke.
Think you should Log Off Now ;D

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ahh..I remember you now....my how the site was sooooo much better without you.....:)

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Benn hammered him
Simple really
We don't let our fighters "Tickle" over here girls
We let em fight like men. 8)

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Sorry Jack not buying it!!!!! Not even a little bit ::** Unsportsmanlike Conduct and Questionable Officiating is nothing to be proud of on any level..The most Blantant example of that was when Benn got up and was doing all he could to stand up The Ref kept holding McClellan back to were even the announcers were pissed it was pointless and absurd and obvious the Higher ups were not gonna let Benn lose that nite.

Benn hammered him Huh???? Yea with the help of a criminal Ref that unwisely let him fight past what he was capable and ended his competitive career at 32 no favors there

The fact that you are not disputing the events that happened that night brings more valitidy to my points

If you like to applaud and venerate BULLSHITE, Tell you what give me your address I'll U.P.S a box of it to you and you can clap :appl: to your hearts content

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It's no secret he ducked Benn and Collins
FACT ;D

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opinion = benn and collins were ducked by roy jones

fact = you have pitts in your face

kidding :)

:dontknow:????

I am probably the most UNNATIONALISTIC person on this Forum and despise it period!!!!! I hate to hear people say OUR BOYS, YOUR BOYS if you are a true Fan of the Sport their EVRYONES BOYS so to say, appreciate what all countries produce in the way of athletes, thats the main reason I cant stant that tool Royal!!!! Cause he is so one way and predjudice....

If McClellan vs Benn happened in the U.S and the roles were reversed YOU BET YOUR ASS I WOULD BE JUST AS PISSED AT THE NONSENSE AND OFFICIATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats wrong is wrong....

So I am not trying to attack or provoke anyone here and I'm not saying it is wrong to take pride in your country and heritage but dont be so overzealous as to let it skew your perception of reality and reasoning ability... :soapbox: ok I'm done

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I am probably the most UNNATIONALISTIC person on this Forum and despise it period!!!!! I hate to hear people say OUR BOYS, YOUR BOYS if you are a true Fan of the Sport their EVRYONES BOYS so to say, appreciate what all countries produce in the way of athletes, thats the main reason I cant stant that tool Royal!!!! Cause he is so one way and predjudice....

If McClellan vs Benn happened in the U.S and the roles were reversed YOU BET YOUR a** I WOULD BE JUST AS PISSED AT THE NONSENSE AND OFFICIATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats wrong is wrong....

So I am not trying to attack or provoke anyone here and I'm not saying it is wrong to take pride in your country and heritage but dont be so overzealous as to let it skew your perception of reality and reasoning ability... :soapbox: ok I'm done

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yeah!!!!!! and for the record Joe C is one of my favorite fighters...I love all my Italian fighters!!!!! the Italian Dragon Rules IMO!!!!

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Originally Posted by jtrock

I am probably the most UNNATIONALISTIC person on this Forum and despise it period!!!!! I hate to hear people say OUR BOYS, YOUR BOYS if you are a true Fan of the Sport their EVRYONES BOYS so to say, appreciate what all countries produce in the way of athletes, thats the main reason I cant stant that tool Royal!!!! Cause he is so one way and predjudice....

If McClellan vs Benn happened in the U.S and the roles were reversed YOU BET YOUR a** I WOULD BE JUST AS PISSED AT THE NONSENSE AND OFFICIATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats wrong is wrong....

So I am not trying to attack or provoke anyone here and I'm not saying it is wrong to take pride in your country and heritage but dont be so overzealous as to let it skew your perception of reality and reasoning ability... :soapbox: ok I'm done

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yeah!!!!!! and for the record Joe C is one of my favorite fighters...I love all my Italian fighters!!!!! the Italian Dragon Rules IMO!!!!

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Thanks for the :coolclick: before Raguster...

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Originally Posted by jtrock

I am probably the most UNNATIONALISTIC person on this Forum and despise it period!!!!! I hate to hear people say OUR BOYS, YOUR BOYS if you are a true Fan of the Sport their EVRYONES BOYS so to say, appreciate what all countries produce in the way of athletes, thats the main reason I cant stant that tool Royal!!!! Cause he is so one way and predjudice....

If McClellan vs Benn happened in the U.S and the roles were reversed YOU BET YOUR a** I WOULD BE JUST AS PISSED AT THE NONSENSE AND OFFICIATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats wrong is wrong....

So I am not trying to attack or provoke anyone here and I'm not saying it is wrong to take pride in your country and heritage but dont be so overzealous as to let it skew your perception of reality and reasoning ability... :soapbox: ok I'm done

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yeah!!!!!! and for the record Joe C is one of my favorite fighters...I love all my Italian fighters!!!!! the Italian Dragon Rules IMO!!!!

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Thanks for the :coolclick: before Raguster...

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no prob.....it was a really good post......:)

sry but jtrock was a bit too polite

fuck pride, especially national pride - you don't wanna be a sheeple do ya? :)

http://www.sheeple.net

great qoute from that website:

Sheeple are people that follow blindly and never question their leaders. Their simple Motto is:

"Follow the Asshole in front of you"