Does anyone here use a flicker jab and if so is it better to use then a normal jab?
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Does anyone here use a flicker jab and if so is it better to use then a normal jab?
Can be usefull for a con, or to touch the right hand of the opponent or try see what the reaction is from him. But you must know what you are doing. If your a novice I wouldnt recomend it to an amatuer dont think so it doesnt serve any perpass.
whats a flicker jab? i mean i honestly am not sure... what is it stiff, loose or what? lol do tell .
im not sure what a flicker jab is myself . I think its like a jab that can turn and twist im not sure myself
just one you "flick" out there. no real harm is done. just a light test of the waters.
yeh thats sweet for trickery aswell i stick it out there to make em think im measuring a strait right hand and then i'll throw a stiff jab or a quick left hook, then i'll do it later and actually throw a right hand or one to the body, its terrific.
It might can be used to wrack up points, but it won't do much damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinlee
If I understand correctly...
There is no point in a flicker jab, or in a jab just to tapyour foe's right hand. Consder what you are giving away. He can know judge your reach and time your hand speed. These are things you need to learn about him, not give away about yourself.
Watch Thomas Hearns he was a master at using the Flicker Jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinlee
As Ive mentioned youve got to know what you are doing.Its a technique for the other guy having to move if he wants to throw a right hand he has to change the angle or step for direction. Plus its hard if not impossible to throw the hook because youve altered his feel througth touch, but you have to know what its about, and no how to counter a counter.
Hi Shinlee,
You asked:
I used it sparingly and, in my opinion, it is definitely not better to use than a "normal" jab in the overall scheme of things.Quote:
Does anyone here use a flicker jab and if so is it better to use then a normal jab?
Generally speaking, I think the "flicker" jab has limited utility. It's two main purposes are 1) to irritate an opponent like a "fly in your face" to feel him out and/or keep him from setting up a "rhythm" against you (for this purpose I would rather use a "normal" jab) and 2) to lull an opponent to "sleep" with a fast, light punch TO SET UP and SHOCK HIM with, as part of the good 'ol "one-two" combination (i.e. left jab-straight right hand), a powerful, devastating straight right hand on the button.
Depending on your level of expertise and experience, if you're a newbie to the sport, I would concentrate and perfect the "normal" jab first and foremost before playing around with the "flicker" jab and other variants.
Take Care,
Lito
It should be noted that many amateur judges are not impressed by the flicker jab and often don't score it as the scoring part of the glove doesn't land flush.
A downside to it,is your so loose when you throw it,you run a risk of hurting your wrist
A plus side,if a guys pawing with his jab to find range,and you quick flick a jab out you can screw up the whole thing he's trying to do
I've never used a flicker jab, I can't get the speed down properly. I've always wanted to learn that since I saw Mashiba do it on ep 9 of Hajime no Ippo, it looks awesome.
Even if you don't score points or do damage with it, 'giving away' something may actually be an advantage (beyond irritating the opponent or throwing off their rythm). Since a flicker is so quick and you can extend your arm out pretty far, it'd make you seem faster and having a longer reach than your more powerful punches really have. In that case, he might overestimate your reach and speed, which might keep him off your back if he has advantages over you in those right?Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Yeah that thing is definately set up to just whip at the guy. If you were to hit wrong, like if he was stepping into it or something, you might end up hurting your hand more than him. Since the muscles are pretty relaxed for speed and stuff, are there ways of toughening the hand to avoid getting hurt doing that? Like to toughen the ligaments or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I always figured doing heavy pulling (chin/deadlift) would strengthen wrist ligaments since it holds the bones together, not sure.
Check out Shane Mosely at Lighweight.
While he's moving feinting or defending he's flicking the left hand out there constantly.
But come the time that he wants to lay down some offense he's pumping it straight.
The flicker jab is only for putting on a show.
It depends on the situation to what jab you use, if your oppenent is quick and has alot of head movement, you would use the flick jab, dont even need much power, just make contact. If your opponent has a cut you can use the flick jab to make his cut worse or i find for speed i use the flick jab too its quicker to throw out and pull back. But if you have an opponent who keeps coming forward in a straight line with not much head movement you would use a straight jab or just stick the jab out there so you can set up a right. I find i ise the flick jab more than a straight jab cos you can throw it from most angles and you can throw it on the move.
As my first post on this website I would like to just say that I watched this video of sugar ray versus Floyd Mayweather and Mayweather throws some punches that look like flickers. He seems to use them when it's appropriate. Even if what he is using isn't really a flicker, the flicker is something you should know how to do, because it might be effective against someone...
It has its benifits i think. Its good for keeping you opponent off timing, i suppose a normal jab is to butits also annoying, lso flicker jab can be good for counter pounching depending on your style. Many times sparing iv flicked the jab out inviting the opponent to left hook(im Southpaw) so i can counter.Sometimes i use it to Quicken my Left hand up in a wierd way :S Amature boxing is abit different I have seen some score but 9/10 its not enough for a Judge to score i suppose its personal Preferance if you like it or not.
can anyone post a video of a good flicker jab being used in the ring?
Look up Thomas Hearns he used it quite alot
The best one to use it was George Foreman in his older years. Yes he had a devastating jab that jerked your head way back (check the Holyfield fight).But he also used as a setup punch just to get your attention and blind you momentarily than BAM the right hand comes right behind it. The Michael Moorer fight was the perfect example of this.