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Chris Eubank: RJJ could beat JC
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Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
03.08.06 - By Jay Briggsy: Former WBO super-middleweight champion Chris Eubank believes that formerly proposed opponent Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating current super-middle king Joe Calzaghe, a former opponent of Eubank's. The showman also hinted at a possible bout with Jones Jr. himself!
"I believe Jones is a freak of nature. That fellow could probably land a leaping hook from his Zimmer Frame," Eubank commented. I think he can beat Calzaghe, but what he can't be is gunshy. They say the last thing to lose a fighter is his punch, Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Whether or not Jones can make 168 lbs. and be strong at the weight at this stage of his career is uncertain. But surely if he could pull off a Calzaghe victory at super-middle it would have to go down as not just his greatest achievement, but one of the greatest achievements in boxing for some time when you consider Calzaghe's breathtaking performance against Lacy a few months ago and Roy not being at his best since the Clinton Woods fight some four years back.
"Listen, Calzaghe is easy to hit with right hands. He's busy enough, fast handed southpaw but he's abit European, quite square and rigid, you know? He's far from unhittable, infact he's easy to hit with the right (hand). Just a basic, straight right hand lead he doesn't seem to see, but of course, you have to have abit of speed and that's Jones.
"I also found him (Calzaghe) fairly easy to hit with body shots. I watched Jones's last fight and he did good body work," added the lisping former champ.
Calzaghe, the WBO/IBF champion, may prefer to try cementing his legacy even further by taking on the winner the Markus Beyer/Mikkel Kessler WBC/WBA unification fight or Clinton Woods/Glencoffe Johnson IBF light-heavyweight title fight rather than the bigger money fight with the faded Jones Jr. Others in the frame for Calzaghe's next opponent are skilful veteran Winky Wright and up-and-coming Allan Green.
As well as calling for Calzaghe, Jones has also called for a return fight with Glencoffe Johnson next who if he managed to beat would mean he could lay claim to beating every man he fought.
Would Brighton's favourite son consider spectacularly coming out of retirement to face off with Roy Jones if he did manage to beat Calzaghe?
"Hey, there's always a price!" was his answer.
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Do I sense sour grapes from Chris here .
Calzaghe surely would be a big favourite against Jones at this stage . In fairness to Jones he looked pretty sharp last time and if we didnt know hed been beaten in his previous 3 fights then we'd still be thinking of him as an elite fighter but Joe is no prince Amaju and as long as he is injury free I cant see Jones beating him
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Prime Jones would outboxed Calzaghe but now Joe would batter him.
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Prime Jones would outboxed Calzaghe but now Joe would batter him.
I think Jones would out slick him and win a decision ! Roy is still fast and sharp , he would be more focused on a perceived threat like Calzaghe, a well prepared Jones wins easy IMO.
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Prime Jones would outboxed Calzaghe but now Joe would batter him.
I think Jones would out slick him and win a decision ! Roy is still fast and sharp , he would be more focused on a perceived threat like Calzaghe, a well prepared Jones wins easy IMO.
I think you are deluded to think it would be easy for Roy at this stage!!
The Jones that fought Johnson or any of 3 Tarver fights would not have a prayer against JC.
If he somehow reincarnates and recaptures the old genius then who knows
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:o
This fight will never happen.
RJJ got no heart.
Joe would beat him like a dog!
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Prime Jones would outboxed Calzaghe but now Joe would batter him.
I think Jones would out slick him and win a decision ! Roy is still fast and sharp , he would be more focused on a perceived threat like Calzaghe, a well prepared Jones wins easy IMO.
I think you are deleuded to think it would be easy for Roy at this stage!!
The Jones that fought Johnson or any of 3 Tarver fights would not have a prayer against JC.
If he somehow reincarnates and recaptures the old genius then who knows
Jones is 37 years old, he not getting any younger that for sure, but I feel he rise for a fight of this magnitude, Joe had an impressive win over Lacy , but he is 34 , so he is not all that young himself and should be making that inevitable decent sometime soon . I would like to see this fight made . Would be very interesting to see how it plays out
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Roy Jones is done IMO. JC, injury free, is pretty much at the top his game. Age was no matter when he fought Lacy. Injuries are his biggest worry. If this fight happens I think Calzaghe will retire Roy. A part of me wants this cos I dont want Roy trampling all over his own legacy by going on too long and ending up like Tyson.
In his prime Roy JJ would have beat JC. Of that I have no doubt. Now though? JC hurts him.
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Thats the thing though,JC in NOT injury free! I thought he was injured now?? ;D
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Roy Jones is done IMO. JC, injury free, is pretty much at the top his game. Age was no matter when he fought Lacy. Injuries are his biggest worry. If this fight happens I think Calzaghe will retire Roy. A part of me wants this cos I dont want Roy trampling all over his own legacy by going on too long and ending up like Tyson.
In his prime Roy JJ would have beat JC. Of that I have no doubt. Now though? JC hurts him.
yea, prime RJJ wins pretty easy. Now (2006) i think it 'could' be a decent fight with JC winning.
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Eubank probably does have a bit of a grudge against Calzaghe but from what I can tell he does not like Roy much either. He's mostly right, Roy is still capable of beating Calzaghe and it would be a very big victory. But not the biggest of his career, I mean its Joe Calzaghe not James Toney.
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But surely if he could pull off a Calzaghe victory at super-middle it would have to go down as not just his greatest achievement, but one of the greatest achievements in boxing for some time when you consider Calzaghe's breathtaking performance against Lacy a few months ago and Roy not being at his best since the Clinton Woods fight some four years back.
What a joke. I'd put it lower on RJJ's achievement list than Toney and B-Hop. And definitely lower on the "greatest achievements in boxing for some time" list than Hopkins's going UP TWO DIVISIONS in weight at 41 years old to win the LHW title from Tarver--something SRR couldn't do.
I mean, this would be Roy's biggest victory in a while, but I'm not sure it even would outrank beating Ruiz, since that involved a former MW going up to HW and winning a title (without steroids).
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But surely if he could pull off a Calzaghe victory at super-middle it would have to go down as not just his greatest achievement, but one of the greatest achievements in boxing for some time when you consider Calzaghe's breathtaking performance against Lacy a few months ago and Roy not being at his best since the Clinton Woods fight some four years back.
What a joke. I'd put it lower on RJJ's achievement list than Toney and B-Hop. And definitely lower on the "greatest achievements in boxing for some time" list than Hopkins's going UP TWO DIVISIONS in weight
at 41 years old to win the LHW title from Tarver--something SRR couldn't do.
I mean, this would be Roy's biggest victory in a while, but I'm not sure it even would outrank beating Ruiz, since that involved a former MW going up to HW and winning a title (without steroids).
Exactly I feel the same way. Calzaghe is smaller than Roy to begin with a little. And its only Joe Calzaghe, besides beating up Lacy who else has he fought to get such acclaim? Old Byron Mitchell? Old Charles Brewer? A bunch of unknown European competition like Kabary Salem, who knocked Joe down and lost a decision to him. Or Mger Mktchian?
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that doesn't stop the fans from thinking Calzaghe can beat Jones despite everything Eubank said is true
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Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
Yeah...Chris Eubank believes Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating Joe Calzaghe...only because he couldn't. Eubank needs to have a coke & a smile & STFU!
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Originally Posted by The Game
Eubank commented that "Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Eubank must not have seen Jones's last fight.
Get over it Eubank...Joe whipped your ass good & that is that.
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Originally Posted by The Game
Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
Yeah...Chris Eubank believes Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating Joe Calzaghe...only because he couldn't. Eubank needs to have a coke & a smile & STFU!
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Originally Posted by The Game
Eubank commented that "Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Eubank must not have seen Jones's last fight.
Get over it Eubank...Joe whipped your ass good & that is that.
Eubank was a queer for sure, tuff, but gay nonetheless with his little poses and entrances. But ya gotta admit he was a little over the hill by the time Calzaghe defeated him, more than a little actually.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by The Game
Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
Yeah...Chris Eubank believes Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating Joe Calzaghe...only because he couldn't. Eubank needs to have a coke & a smile & STFU!
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Originally Posted by The Game
Eubank commented that "Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Eubank must not have seen Jones's last fight.
Get over it Eubank...Joe whipped your ass good & that is that.
I dont think Chris said that to get at Calzaghe, that may be his views on it
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calzaghe would of made it tough fight for jones even in hes prime and what is the point of calzaghe fighting jones because all people will say is he beat and old and shot roy jones.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by The Game
Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
Yeah...Chris Eubank believes Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating Joe Calzaghe...only because he couldn't. Eubank needs to have a coke & a smile & STFU!
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Originally Posted by The Game
Eubank commented that "Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Eubank must not have seen Jones's last fight.
Get over it Eubank...Joe whipped your a** good & that is that.
I dont think Chris said that to get at Calzaghe, that may be his views on it
Gotta disagree.
Eubank's always been a bitter queen over that hiding Calzaghe gave him & he always has the secret way or fighter to beat Joe.
Fwock Chris Eubank!
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Do you think Calzaghe is open for straight rights and open to the body?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by The Game
Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
Yeah...Chris Eubank believes Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating Joe Calzaghe...only because he couldn't. Eubank needs to have a coke & a smile & STFU!
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Originally Posted by The Game
Eubank commented that "Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Eubank must not have seen Jones's last fight.
Get over it Eubank...Joe whipped your a** good & that is that.
I dont think Chris said that to get at Calzaghe, that may be his views on it
Gotta disagree.
Eubank's always been a bitter queen over that hiding Calzaghe gave him & he always has the secret way or fighter to beat Joe.
Fwock Chris Eubank!
really........when?
Because Chris feels that Joe is an exceptional fighter
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I'm not too sure with Roy Jones, he may be able to outbox Joe and win a decision, but I would say Bernard Hopkins everyday of the week to defeat Joe all day!
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Originally Posted by The_One77
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by The Game
Chris Eubank: Roy can beat Calzaghe
Yeah...Chris Eubank believes Roy Jones Jr. is capable of defeating Joe Calzaghe...only because he couldn't. Eubank needs to have a coke & a smile & STFU!
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Eubank commented that "Jones was a big puncher back in the day and he must still have that in him."
Eubank must not have seen Jones's last fight.
Get over it Eubank...Joe whipped your a** good & that is that.
I dont think Chris said that to get at Calzaghe, that may be his views on it
Gotta disagree.
Eubank's always been a bitter queen over that hiding Calzaghe gave him & he always has the secret way or fighter to beat Joe.
Fwock Chris Eubank!
really........when?
Because Chris feels that Joe is an exceptional fighter
I agree. Chris is just giving his honest opinion , I feel the same way chris do. JC is tailor made for Jones IMO. I like JC I think JC is a great fighter and really rise to the occasion with that ass beatin he gave Lacy . But Jones have what it take to win.
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Eubank knows what he's talking about...leave it to the experts.
i mean, he's been there done that!
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I dont think Jones JR has any realistic shot of beating a ready Calzaghe at this stretch in the game....Those are the same kinds of opinions that up until only recently were espousing that Tyson would regain the crown in yet another pondersome comeback attempt...
Jones is 37 and just beat Prince Badi. He is in no way ready for Joe Calzaghe...not by a long shot...
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I think that last beating by Carl Thompson is catching up with Eubank.
There is no way that RJJ could beat Calzaghe now.
RJJ's punch resistance has long since gone.
He may still have fast hands & the ability to skip around & looks decent against average opposition, but against an opponent of the calibre of Calzaghe, he would be badly exposed. O0
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
I'm not too sure with Roy Jones, he may be able to outbox Joe and win a decision, but I would say Bernard Hopkins everyday of the week to defeat Joe all day!
But you do go off of one sometimes, Northside! ::** ;D Hehehehehe
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I'm not too sure with Roy Jones, he may be able to outbox Joe and win a decision, but I would say Bernard Hopkins everyday of the week to defeat Joe all day!
But you do go off of one sometimes, Northside! ::** ;D Hehehehehe
Not with Hopkins, he has what it takes to outpoint & make Joe look bad in the ring!
Roy can try to be Roy & stack up points & box his way to a UD but I'm still not too sure about how his chin would hold up to Joe's power shots! I still say that Tarver would beat Joe
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i doubt it very much calzaghe to win
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I agree,
Eubank is a has-been who couldn't beat the man Joe.
Needs to smile and accept his limits!
Joe now can beat RJJ in a decision.
>:mad
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I'm not too sure with Roy Jones, he may be able to outbox Joe and win a decision, but I would say Bernard Hopkins everyday of the week to defeat Joe all day!
But you do go off of one sometimes, Northside! ::** ;D Hehehehehe
Not with Hopkins, he has what it takes to outpoint & make Joe look bad in the ring!
Roy can try to be Roy & stack up points & box his way to a UD but I'm still not too sure about how his chin would hold up to Joe's power shots!
I still say that Tarver would beat Joe
Bahahahahaha ;D
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A couple of other recent words of wisdom- couldn't be arsed to look back at the rest of your guffs! ;D
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I know many of you hate Tarver, so do I, "BUT" that has nothing to do with his boxing ability and I'd say Tarver by TKO stoppage
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I'm sorry but Hopkins is not a lightheavyweight and will lose to the bigger & stronger Tarver
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Joe can say all he wants, but once he is in the ring, action speaks louder than words! Lacy's all about action!!!!
[quote=NorthSideX4 ]
Toney's skill level far exceeds rahman's and this will be just another lopsided win for Toney, power or no power, you can't hit what's not there!
