I know this is not a set fight but since is a forum I'm curious of what you thing since I really have doubts.
I might go With Cotto UD but hey is me.
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I know this is not a set fight but since is a forum I'm curious of what you thing since I really have doubts.
I might go With Cotto UD but hey is me.
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Originally Posted by Puya
i like judah by late ko or ud..................
zabs gonna be alright, the haters will soon realize >:mad
Cotto KO...
OMG. Damn good matchup man!! My mind says Cotto catches him sometime after 5 when Zab starts slacking, but my heart says Judah schools him. Screw intelligence, I'm going with my second favorite fighter. Judah FTW!!!!! :P
Judah KO. Cotto is too open and a little chinny. Of course, Judah's pretty damn chinny himself. Still, Cotto's never been in with anyone as slick or with power like Judah. If he can manage to focus for 7-8 rounds.
Judah’s a snuff queen. He gets his a** tap danced on in this fight, if it were to happen . Man I really wasn’t to see the chicken dance again! Lets hope they make it !
No offense to Entragian and the other Judah fans out there, its just how I see it.
It would be a great fight if it's made, but Cotto will knock Judah the F**k out!!!
I'd like to see this fight and say Cotto would win by knock out
Cotto is yet to fight anyone respected or recognised at the top level so we still don't really know what he can or cannot take.
I'm still prepared to go with Cotto as the kid can bang and although he has looked a little chinny a few times in his burgeoning career already, I think Zab has the weaker chin and cotto will knock him out when he catches up with him.
Whenever Zab gets in the ring with a tough fighter he seems to chicken out or do the chicken dance.
I'm done with Zab, all hype and no trousers.
Although Cotto's opponents have not been great he has fought some solid guys, Corley, Ndou, Maussa, Abdulaev, Sosa, Bazan. Thats a lot of tough guys + others.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Whirlwind
Zab Judah would win. He has the power to hurt Cotto and the ability to outbox him. And I don't think Cotto would respond well to the straight punches of Judah, even if he looked good against Malignaggi he got hit a lot of times too, he gets hit too often for Judah not to stop him.
Yes, but you forget one huge factor. Malignaggi can take a much better punch than Judah.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
and Cotto could take Malignaggi's punches, could Cotto take Judah's if he was hit that many times? Judah IS faster and hits harder too and wouldn't abandon boxing if Cotto headbutted him and cut him
Eh, bad fight for Cotto. Like the kid a lot but the way to beat Judah is to beat him with straight rights imo. Though another way is to have him backing up a lot without having him moving side to side a lot and it wouldn't be unreasonable for Cotto to accomplish this while scoring to the body with the hooks and break him down there. But I think it's a bad style matchup for Cotto.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Cotto to win. His body punches are second to none,he would break Judah down,he has good clean crisp,straight power punches which would hurt Judah and he can box and brawl,people forget that at times so I hope Miguel shows it more at 147. Judah lacks focus,WILL get caught and WILL get hurt. Cotto has a great chin and his D against Paulie for the most part of the fight was very very good,he was blocking a HIGH percentage of what Paule was throwing.
I agree with you the Game, Cotto would break Judah down, then put him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Zab has a lot of skills but his 10 cent brain wont let him be as good as he could be. I think Zab would school him for the first couple of rounds but Cotto would catch him with a hard shot either to the chin or body and Zab will start running. Cotto by close UD. With Zab I always get the impression he is afraid to get hit hard.
Judah by tko sadly. I just see judah hitting that straight left on cottos chin at will and cotto finally falls. Cotto is no kostya tszyu so i doubt he would be able to take zabs punches or manouver him into a position where he could land his power shots.
as any fight with Judah, it's all a matter of how well he keeps his head together. if he can, easy UD or late ko
if not then who knows, they may have a dance off
I think if Judah still has the self belief he could score a mild upset here and UD Cotto, maybe even put him away.
He looked superb in the rematch with Spinks, and can be great when he applies himself.
I think it would be good for boxing if he could become a mjor force again. It would be shame if his career goes down the Vargas route and becomes a whipping boy for the worlds best.
haha yeh i like that one! lol whippin boy.
yeh would be a shame cos i quite like zab when hes at his best but hes just had some bad performances, i mean he didnt do all to bad against floyd and i think he must know he needs a win to get back ontop. and he possesses such skill i mean hes quick snappy and powerfull.. long as he doesnt get hit on the chin i think he could beat most of the best.
I pretty much agree with that. Thing is that you can make Zab mentally quit on a fight if you can take his punches and keep coming forward, by midway through the fight he'll get discouraged.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
But I'm not sure Cotto would be able to take them, the worst style for Cotto is one where he's gotta come forward against a boxer/mover type with quick hands and some power. And Zab, for all his faults, and he's got a lot of them, is quick and does hit pretty hard. If Cotto could last 6 or 7 and keep coming I think he'd make Zab give up and he'd get him out in the later rounds, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if Zab was able to land the left a lot and stop him in the first 6 or 7 rounds.
It will be interesting to see what Cotto will be like at 147, I think it should help him and I might change my pick if he looks stronger and better from not being drained.
I ask the same questionQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I thought everybody thought Mayweather was going to knock him out? I dont think Cotto couldQuote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Although some rounds of Cotto are a little shakey, every fight I watch with Cotto I am more and more impressed by his power. I say Cotto KO/TKO between 8-11
Well Cotto is being kOing guys that PBF couln't in his short careerQuote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Very exciting fight here! I can see a late stoppage or KO for Cotto but with both men being knocked down in the fight. This would be an amazing fight it has to happen!
Hey all I'm bringing back this OLD Thread to see what some of you think now.
So what do you guys think now?
I say Cotto Win KO or UD is a win for Cotto maybe not easy but a Win
Oh and let me know if you want the Poll reset to start it fresh.
I think Cotto has such explosive power he would annihilate Judah. No way Judah could get past 8 with Cotto. I would be very surprised if Judah could last a full 12. just my opinion O0
I would love to see this all over again
[youtube=425,350]2o7A3rMN6Co[/youtube]
Zab does the Tootsie roll
Then he tells the ref not to play with matches
Then he runs away.
(That was not my personal observation) Some one made that comment on youtube and it made me laugh my azz off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7A3rMN6Co
Cotto would knock Zab the Puck Out!
People was always wondering about that!!!! WTF he said to Nady. Does anybody interview Nady after the fight and ask what he said?. I think he said something like "They are throwing beer cans from the stans....." :dance1:
I've only seen one comment from Nady about that fight. Someone did an amazing article on referees and their biggest moments in the ring. Nady said that he doesn't hold anything against Judah because he could see in his eyes that he wasn't himself. CC to anyone who finds that article. One of the better reads on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
You might go with Cotto? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
What the hell come on Puya, don't discredit yourself here...
Zabs done, he won't come back from those loses.... I said it a long time ago Zabs done....
Jay Nady InterviewQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
26.08.05 - By Justin Hackman: I had the honor of having a great discussion with Jay Nady. He gave me a unique view on boxing from an angle that often is unseen or unnoticed. In this interview, Jay speaks on his life as a referee, the Hopkins/Taylor fight, the “incident” with Zab Judah, and more.
JH: “Hey Jay, how’s it goin?”
Nady: “Hey Justin. I’m in Oklahoma City right now; I’m doing the ESPN fight tomorrow night.”
JH: “When typically do you find out when you are doing a fight?”
Nady: “About a week in advance.”
JH: “So what does your job entail? When you are not actually in the ring, what are you doing to make yourself a better referee?”
Nady: “I try to stay up with what’s going on in the sport so you know rivalries or arguments among fighters, promoters, and trainers that are part of fight that I’m going to do. You mentioned earlier something interesting, you
mentioned that the third man often times goes unnoticed” (Jay was alluding to a comment I made early in the conversation). “Well that’s what we try to do. I come from a family of officials, three brothers and sisters all of whom
including our parents are officials. We always say the best referee is that one that stays unnoticed.”...
Complete article at http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4480&more=1
dunno if thats the one you were refering to though?
Comedian Cedric 'The Entertainer' was the one who said that Zab Judah told Nady as he fell 'Don't play with matches' in his latest comdey hour..... ;D
Hey cut me some slack here that was long time ago and If I sounded like a badwagon fan some Judah fans wouln't even dare to post here. :-\ :mwink:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Puya
I didn't even notice the day on that.... :P
my fault.....
Thanks Preme
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JH: “He probably could not have done much against Kostya Tszyu then, no?”
Nady: “Ha, right. I believe that I saved his life. Some of these fighters, when they take too much punishment, they never recover. He could have been hurt in that fight. I don’t regret anything I did in that fight, and he has been nothing but a gentleman to me ever since, he and his family.”
Not the same one (the first one had comments from like 20 different refs) but still never seen it before and it's a good read in itself. CCQuote:
Originally Posted by Preme