I have to go with Manny Pac, he looks like an animal when he get's on the scale, he is a specimen
Honorable mentions go to
Floyd Mayweather
Shane Mosley (even at old age)
Trinindad (when he was boxing)
James Toney (Just Kidding)
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I have to go with Manny Pac, he looks like an animal when he get's on the scale, he is a specimen
Honorable mentions go to
Floyd Mayweather
Shane Mosley (even at old age)
Trinindad (when he was boxing)
James Toney (Just Kidding)
Frank Bruno,. Ken Norton and Tommy Hearns ;)
Frank Bruno and Eubank were in great form
hah agreed,floyd is and tito was in great shape.Quote:
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and thats o so true manny pac is BUILT UP :o did you see his cover of boxing monthly just before the last pac-morales fight, its scary.. and his facial features remind me of duran they both have evil faces. lol
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Your right, he has a villan face, for some reason he reminds me of Bruce Lee a little bit (I don't know why) they both look like maniacs
yeh too true, its his pac thats amazes me its must be the most solid ive seen.
also i just remembered that hatton deserves a place up there i mean he hasnt got the tone but ive seen his 15 round strait workout and its brutal!
How can you Forget Evander Holyfield??? ;)
Lacy looks the most impressively honed fighter I've ever seen. Not in a gay way though you understand :bananasex:
"Conditioned " Needs to be defined,
is it a muscular frame like Lacy and Holyfield or a guy who can non stop punch like Hatton ?
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It's a combination. Frame, endurance, stamina
roy jones ;D
Vargas looked like a monster before the De La Hoya fight
lol yeh roy was up there, but its no good looking like a greek god without being able to last 12 rounds, but u need a strong stomach to take body shots, but most of what u want is fitness and endurance i think.
Conditioning is specific to a sport so the likes of Bruno are out... he had uneeded muscle mass and burned up to much Oxygen.
As for body shots, you need good abs for stomach shots, but a shot to the ribs or solar plexis al come down to condioning and and strength of your nervous system.
You can't grow enough muscle in those areas to absorb any force with talking about.
In no particluar order:
Hearns
Hagler
Robinson
Norton
Holyfield
Hopkins
Jones
Mosley
I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones that immediately come to my mind.
Julian Jackson looked like he was carved out of stone
All time - Holyfield
Current - Shane Mosley
Evander is one that comes to mind. the man would be in the gym at 6:00 am and would ask to lock up at night , you would literally have to kick his a** out of the gym, or he would tend to over train, and that no exaggeration. I would say no doubt Evander Holyfield
I wish todays Heavyweights would take notice ! ;D
jeff lacy and michael grant ken norton holyfield mike weaver was quite muscley
Ali?
I base that on him having a lot of speed, decent strength and power, excellent flexibility, good explosiveness and a lot of endurance.
Other than speed not the best at everything for a heavy weight but he was more than just average at everything else.
by the way... who cares about looks? ;)
in this lennox lewis documentary which has alot of Emmanuel Steward in it , Manny was saying how Evander actually wouldnt do much running and roadwork though apparantly.Quote:
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Yeah Manny had him when Evander was having problems with a heart condition and the related fatigue associated , I am referring to back in the day when holyfield was with Duva and the gangQuote:
Originally Posted by Poom
Looks alone mean nothing alone.
A thin muscluler body doesn't mean conditioned.
Half the middleweight division and below LOOK conditioned.
The proof is in the pudding.
Oscar De La Hoya is my pick for a well conditioned fighter
Esp. against Felix Trinidad.
He stayed on the balls of his feet for most of the fight and moved alot,
And throw hard jabs and combos to Felix (who has a nose bleed in the early
Rounds).
Roy Jones Jr. Is another, his speed for 12 rounds and constant movement
Is boxing at its best, the pure science as an icon.
Move, hit, don't get hit. Thats RJJ.
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Ali his conditioning was second to none. He had more wars than anyone, and a heavyweight to boot, an amazing human speciman. In the late 70s early to mid 80s, his vo2 max must have been something special.
Actually what constitutes being conditioned is quite interesting.
I don't know how many of you saw Superstars on the BBC last year, it's a competition that pits elite athletes from all sports to see who is the best all around athlete.
There were various events, a few I can remember 100 metres, 800 metres, 100 metres swim, cycling (up a killer hill), squat thrusts, tricep dips and loads more.
Anyway boxers generally sucked which amazed me. Ricky Hatton was on it and was pretty S***.
The best were skiiers and rowers.
Alain Baxter (British slalom skier) was absolutely awesome at everything, running, cycling, dips, swimming, He won the show last year, I think Duan Ledajo won it the year before.
But Hatton, who I would have picked to win before didn't even get through his qualifying heat. :-\
Definitely, because he looks so athletic, people forget that the bloke is some size...Quote:
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Hagler, Pryor, Armstrong, Holmes!
if not Evander then Nigel Benn....Quote:
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Harry Greb, Stanley Ketchel, Henry Armstrong, Marvin Hagler, Julio Cesar Chavez, Gene Tunney...Guys never seen tired.
Hagler, Holy, Tito, Roy, Floyd. Alot of others.
My vote goes to Toney! ;D (Heh Heh)