at super-middle right now
who would win ????
i reckon Bernard by an easy UD
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at super-middle right now
who would win ????
i reckon Bernard by an easy UD
B-HOP would outbox Lacy...B-HOP by UDQuote:
Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
Hopkins Late KO
Lacy by late TKO
There was alot of hype surrounding Lacy from day one. Luckily Calzaghe shut that down but alot of people in the U.S. expected great things from this kid. Did the U.K. fans see through all the Bullshit from the get go or did the hype fool you abit?
Hopkins KO 8.
I was sold on the guy and in all my predictions said the fight was 51% Lacy 49% Calzaghe, but a lot of that was also due to me believing that JC was on the slide.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricky
I stilll think Lacy could've gone on to become a superb world champion, but taking a beating like that from a guy that was world champion for 4 years before he even turned pro may have wrecked his career.
Hope not!!
i maintained calzague would win, however i thought he may wel go down once or twiceQuote:
Originally Posted by ricky
I'm sure Hopkins could win this one but I can't believe some of you are saying he would KO Lacy.
Hopkins hasn't KO'd anybody properly for over 4 years.
De La Hoya taking a taking a dive doesn't count, plus he's only a 154 lber anyways.
No way Hopkins knocks Lacy out.
I like Lacy in this one. Guy is a wrecking machine, I do not think it would be wise to use the shoulder roll with this guy.
hopkins easily
this is a silly thread. hopkins would win every round easily.
Yeah that is surprising, the only way that makes sense is if Lacy's just totally ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
I mean if Lacy showed anything in the Calzaghe fight it was a good chin. Now maybe its just ruined now but still Hopkins doesn't have huge power, and doesn't throw many punches. I mean supposedly Lacy took over 1000 punches from Calzaghe, although I've always thought that was a BS number nevertheless he took a lot of punches, and only was dropped once. I seriously doubt Hopkins would KO him with his 2 or 3 right hands a round.
Hopkins is the smartest fighter of our era. Lacy is a young bull. Giant Lacy fan but he gets boxed circles around. Hopkins lopsided UD. No way he gets KO'd.
Bernard wins at any weight .
He'd hypnotize Lacy from the outside and sneak in counters and right hand leads . Jeff wouldnt be able to get out the way and id be impressed if he heard the final bell .
It would be like watching Tarver - Nard but Jeff may take a bigger beating cuz he would keep trying
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Originally Posted by GAME
I agree, but seeing the beating he withstood against JC I don't see Hopkins knocking him out, plus Bernard clearly outboxed Tarver but it was nothing brutal, it was a technical display of masterful boxing.
Yeah cause Nard has been Knocking people out with regularity ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Yeah thats why I think it will go 12Quote:
Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
None can do to Lacy what Joe did . That was a beating and a half .Not Tarver , Not Taylor and not B-hop . Bernard would defeat him mentally I reckon . Lacy showed alot of heart in that fight which may have ruined him but I guess time will tell . My best bet is that he wont have to take that kinda beating again as long as he avoids Calzaghe . I actually picked him to beat Joe and thought him and Taylor were the future of boxing after Floyd/Barrera/Winky etc. Who knows it may happen
Bhop
6-8 round stoppage
I remember Jeff on the amatuer scene.....Problem is Its the same old Jeff all power and nothing more....To even debate a bout with him and hopkins is just plain silly...
Your ridiculous man!Quote:
There was alot of hype surrounding Lacy from day one. Luckily Calzaghe shut that down but alot of people in the U.S. expected great things from this kid. Did the U.K. fans see through all the Bullshit from the get go or did the hype fool you abit?
Hopkins KO 8.
I have seen 21 Of Lacys fights, and i really dont think he was overated at all. If you watch his fights against reid and vanderpool, both world class opponents. He strategically broke em down and knocked em out in the later round. He could still beat calzaghe. It just wasnt his night on march 3rd.
I understand why people were saying he would KTFO of calzaghe. the guy is a powerhouse, one that calculates his moves, now thats a dangerous combo!
I will contradict myself from what i said before about him having an okay defense. I only just got his fights recently and after watching em, he did get hit quite abit, not that it bothered him. he should have some headmovement and more lighter on his feet. he can block pu nches well with his arms/hands.
i think Lacy would either beat hopkins SD or late TKO.
Hopkins chances are SD/UD. I dont see him ko'ing lacy or TKo'ing him.
Hopkins takes Lacy to school!!!
Don't be silly Royal... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
just because u got alot of power dont mean anything personally he should lose some of that muscle and get some speed and headmovement if he could do that then who knows but if he stays at same style he wont beat big boys like hopkins calzaghe i really wish get some speed and headmovement because hes got good chin and that would really help him alot
Agreed...that is silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Hopkins has never been knocked out & he's fought some tuff customers that had game.
If Jones & Tarver couldn't down Hopkins...how the fwock is Jeff Lacy...who stays wide ass open all the time gonna knock Hopkins out?
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Strange how one fight by either guy changes so many opinions. 12 months ago can anyone say they'd think B-hop could out box lacy for 12 rounds and win ;D
I would throw my hand up on that one...but I was also in the mind set that Sturm would pose a threat to Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Oh well...can't be right about everything...come to think of it...I can't be right about anything! ;D
Because Lacy has WAY MORE POWER THAN JONES AND TARVER.Quote:
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Lacy by late TKO
Don't be silly Royal...
Agreed...that is silly.
Hopkins has never been knocked out & he's fought some tuff customers that had game.
If Jones & Tarver couldn't down Hopkins...how the fwock is Jeff Lacy...who stays wide a** open all the time gonna knock Hopkins out?
Did you see How Lacy got in close with Vanderpool and done him with uppercuts and made his legs like jelly. If Hopkins who i believe has a great chin, Took shots like that consecutively the ref will stop the fight!
Power don't mean shit when your'e gettin punched in the mouth all night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
totally agree lacy is too slow like i said in my post above he needs some speed and headmovement its no good having all that muscle if ur too slow and cant hit the other guy in boxing its better not to have all the muscles its better just to be solid
Hopkins is 100s of leagues above Vanderball, Roy Jones has a good dig on him and Tarver will hit harder than lacy simply because of weight... your chin doesn't increase an awful lot if at all if you move up two weight classes... not that it matters though... Tarver couldn't catch him and neither would Lacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
Mate, you're making Lacy fans look bad. Beating Vanderpool doesn't mean he beats Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy