Debate? Who do boxing fans hate more Cory Spinks or John Ruiz

Boxing fans seem to cringe when hearing either of these boxers winning a title or fighting for one, but for me it has to be John Ruiz

John " The Crying Man" Ruiz...

ruiz

Ruiz no question.

John ' wish id never met David Tua' Ruiz

Most definately spinks, for me anyway

the way ruiz fights pisses us off, the way spinks fights and acts pisses us the fuck off - whens the last time ruiz danced his way to the ring with a rapper at his side :)

yeh spinks is a littl bitch and i feel you but in opposites like spinks is anoying but i cant tolerate ruiz! i mean did u ever see the press conference and the wiegh ins for jones jr-ruiz , the man is anything but quiet even though u do wish hed shut up lol

Spinks is an international disgrace. Ruiz is an intergalactic disgrace.

Definetly Ruiz.....I mean Cory does stupid shit no doubt, But I for one enjoy his fights and I am a fan of his when he is in the ring...Now that retarded crying and Whailing he did after the Karmazin fight I could of done with out....

The ring intro I didnt mind I mean he was in his Hometown and they love him there so its all good to me..

Ruiz is just a drain on the system he Sux he got a made of fool of 2x by Jones, Toney..

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Originally Posted by clean

Spinks is an international disgrace. Ruiz is an intergalactic disgrace.

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lol Agreed!

John "If you beat me I'll retire" Ruiz

Ruiz by far. I don't really mind Spinks. At least he's technically sharp and doesn't just hold.

I got no beef with Spinks...he isn't exactly fun to watch but at least its boxing. Ruiz is a grecoroman wrestler masquerading as a boxer.

Spinks isn't that bad once you get past his running & crying at least he can fight, but I can't stand John "I won't go away" Ruiz. So many times I've thought he was done & then what do you know... the c**ts coming back... again... & again... & again...

Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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You just don't like him because he beat Mayorga ;)

Anyway, I don't see anyone's problem with Spinks. With RUIZ I can see a problem :)

I didn't mind either one of them as far as disgraces, but as far as boxing fans hate more, Ruiz

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Originally Posted by Starr

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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You just don't like him because he beat Mayorga ;)

Anyway, I don't see anyone's problem with Spinks. With RUIZ I can see a problem :)

I didn't mind either one of them as far as disgraces, but as far as boxing fans hate more, Ruiz

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No because he SCREWED Mayorga and sent him from Welterweight champ, to a jaded brawler out to make as much cash as he can b4 his career is over. And because he SCREWED Judah and Karmazin. I've never seen a guy get more GIFT decisions than Cory Spinks. It is just unbelievable. He simply is not a Boxer. Boxers BOX. He RUNS, and SURVIVES. It's just a sham and its ridiculous.

I like them both for there mental fortitude and comebacks. Imagine if Ruiz had Spink's boxing ability or if Spinks had Ruize's chin and durability.

Ruiz no doubt for me

Spinks' actions before and after fights can be a bit eccentric to say the least but his boxing style is better. Ruiz does come forward most of the time but that isn't entertaining in itself since he's just throwing a jab and hugging. Spinks will run from time to time, and I know what you're gonna say Hulk so there's really no point in saying it, but he doesn't hold that much and at least he has some skills.

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Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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You just don't like him because he beat Mayorga ;)

Anyway, I don't see anyone's problem with Spinks. With RUIZ I can see a problem :)

I didn't mind either one of them as far as disgraces, but as far as boxing fans hate more, Ruiz

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No because he SCREWED Mayorga and sent him from Welterweight champ, to a jaded brawler out to make as much cash as he can b4 his career is over. And because he SCREWED Judah and Karmazin. I've never seen a guy get more GIFT decisions than Cory Spinks. It is just unbelievable. He simply is not a Boxer. Boxers BOX. He RUNS, and SURVIVES. It's just a sham and its ridiculous.

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What is wrong with you.. I watched that fight ages ago and then recently again, honestly in large part due to your rantings of MAyorga being robbed... I think you must just have no idea how to judge clean boxing as opposed to a brawl... If one fighter is moving backwards, does that mean it's impossible for him to be outboxing the other in your mind?? Yesterday you objected when I said Urango was outboxed against whoever he just lost to, and you always go on about Spinks Mayorga... well, MAYORGA SUCKS, he has 0 boxing ability, 0..... Spinks clearly won that fight when you factor in the 2 point deductions from Mayorga, there's absolutely no way a sane person could have a scorecard with Mayorga winning, if you take those 2 points off. Spinks clearly outboxed him, I honestly don't know what your hangup is I know your not an idiot...

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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Bullshit.

He beat Mayorga.

Come on. Sure...he lost to Judah once...& Karmazin was close...but he beat Mayorga...I mean...who hasn't that has atleast a small bit of experience fighting outside of a bar? ;) :-*

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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Bullshit.

He beat Mayorga.

Come on. Sure...he lost to Judah once...& Karmazin was close...but he beat Mayorga...I mean...who hasn't that has atleast a small bit of experience fighting outside of a bar? ;) :-*

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Whats up with HUlk? Why such Hostility he is such an angry militiant Boy......Such anger should be released I Recommend :boobs2: :fking: then again :thinking2:thats my answer to everything

ruiz for sure!
its hard to hate a retard.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

John "If you beat me I'll retire" Ruiz

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Actually it's John 'If You beat me I'll sue' Ruiz.

Anyways I prefer Spinks to Ruiz.

I quite like Cory, coming as he does from a family of slack jawed, toothless, inbred hill billies.

Personally I think his ring entrances make for better entertainment than most fights these days, sure I'm laughing AT him and not WITH him but hey I'm still laughing right? :P

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Spinks no question. Ruiz legitimately won his title. Spinks is a fraud and has been given not one, not two, but THREE fights now against three proud champions. Mayorga, Judah, Karmazin. He is a disgrace to the sport and a joke. Least Ruiz beat some good fighters, really better than Wladimir has beaten and look at all the hype he gets. Spinks has fairly beaten no one, cept maybe Picarillo, I didn't see those two fights.

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You just don't like him because he beat Mayorga ;)

Anyway, I don't see anyone's problem with Spinks. With RUIZ I can see a problem :)

I didn't mind either one of them as far as disgraces, but as far as boxing fans hate more, Ruiz

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No because he SCREWED Mayorga and sent him from Welterweight champ, to a jaded brawler out to make as much cash as he can b4 his career is over. And because he SCREWED Judah and Karmazin. I've never seen a guy get more GIFT decisions than Cory Spinks. It is just unbelievable. He simply is not a Boxer. Boxers BOX. He RUNS, and SURVIVES. It's just a sham and its ridiculous.

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What is wrong with you.. I watched that fight ages ago and then recently again, honestly in large part due to your rantings of MAyorga being robbed... I think you must just have no idea how to judge clean boxing as opposed to a brawl... If one fighter is moving backwards, does that mean it's impossible for him to be outboxing the other in your mind?? Yesterday you objected when I said Urango was outboxed against whoever he just lost to, and you always go on about Spinks Mayorga... well, MAYORGA SUCKS, he has 0 boxing ability, 0..... Spinks clearly won that fight when you factor in the 2 point deductions from Mayorga, there's absolutely no way a sane person could have a scorecard with Mayorga winning, if you take those 2 points off. Spinks clearly outboxed him, I honestly don't know what your hangup is I know your not an idiot...

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Two points shouldn't make a shat, when you win nearly every single round like Mayorga did in that fight. It was the worst robbery I have personally ever seen and it is what turned me from a casual Mayorga fan to a hardcore Mayorga fan. Seeing a proud warrior get raped that badly in a decision against such a runner was just disgusting. I remember Max Kellerman saying he thought Spinks won, but a well respected boxing writer that sat ringside scored nearly every round for Mayorga, and Max aknowledged that he could see where he was coming from. I agree. And as far as the Urango fight, neither him nor Ben Rabah did shat, and it was a close fight, unlike Mayorga vs Spinks, but my point was and is that Urango came to box, Ben Rabah came to survive. And no, I'm not an idiot contrary to what Wacko might say otherwise.

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And no, I'm not an idiot contrary to what Wacko might say otherwise.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh quit crying.

I never said you were an idiot...just a rabid Mayorga fan. Nothing wrong with that I guess...then again...when one refuses to accept reality... ;D

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And no, I'm not an idiot contrary to what Wacko might say otherwise.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh quit crying.

I never said you were an idiot...just a rabid Mayorga fan. Nothing wrong with that I guess...then again...when one refuses to accept reality... ;D

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Reality is that Mayorga soundly defeated Cory Spinks and got jobbed in a decision worse than SRL vs Hagler. Reality is also that Spink's "wins" over Mayorga, Judah and to a lesser degree Karmazin are as phony as Primo Carnera's title reign. Reality is also that Hulk and his family are goin to Texas for a week to visit his grandmother so I will not be on here for a whole 7 days. So let your idiotic reign of terror begin. I won't be here to correct you. Peace. :)

I dont see anything wrong with Cory Spinks.This guy has a lot of skill and is very talented.I really dont see why people have a problem with his fighting style.Ruiz is a different story though,his only exciting moment in boxing was when Tua KOed him,and when Golota Knocked him down twice...oh yeah,and when Roy put a boxing lesson on him

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

I dont see anything wrong with Cory Spinks.This guy has a lot of skill and is very talented.I really dont see why people have a problem with his fighting style.Ruiz is a different story though,his only exciting moment in boxing was when Tua KOed him,and when Golota Knocked him down twice...oh yeah,and when Roy put a boxing lesson on him

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No doubt that John Ruiz is the Snuff Queen of these two fighter. Why do we hate watching Ruiz, Because he has not convincingly won a fight in over 8 years. He got his ass kicked by 2 Middleweights., and Valuve. Always un impressive in the ring , and somehow mysteriously remains forever a #1 contender . Amazing really.. The guy is the Cock Roach of boxing you can’t get rid of the m@#!fu3#$ ! He has absolutely no entertainment appeal at all. At least let the ratings reflect some of this, these crocked ass organizations ! LMFAO

Hopefully Chagaev gets rid of him.....how the hell did he even get an eliminaton match!!!!!

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Hopefully Chagaev gets rid of him.....how the hell did he even get an eliminaton match!!!!!

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Because he has lawyers that went to college ;D