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Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
When Nas showed up on the scene people were drawn to his style because of his quickness and power. He use to fight some fights with his hands by his waist and would not even defend himself, I remember being so impressed. Even though Amir's career is very young it seems like that star power is moving in his direction, after he has a couple of big fights I think he will become very popular in the mecca of boxing which is the USA.
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
When Nas showed up on the scene people were drawn to his style because of his quickness and power. He use to fight some fights with his hands by his waist and would not even defend himself, I remember being so impressed. Even though Amir's career is very young it seems like that star power is moving in his direction, after he has a couple of big fights I think he will become very popular in the mecca of boxing which is the USA.
No.
The kid is no where near Hamed league.
Naz was a pretty amazing fighter in a whole. I think that Khan is good & all that...but he isn't the same style of fighter nor does he command presence like Naz did.
Arrogant as he was...Naz was a damned fine fighter...he just got shown against Barrera.
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
He won't look like Nas during the big fights.
Their styles are not exactly the same, although similar.
Khan has defence, quick flurries, and nice movement around the ring.
Sort of Leonard looking in some rounds. :o
But he doesn't move his body in those strange arranged patterns like Nas. ::**
And he might not have the power to KO against bigger names unlike Nas
who proved he was a good knockout artist against most. :boxingmatch:
Boxrec.com claim Nas as number one of all-time in the featherweight division.
:scratchchin:
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Im sorry but Khan doesnt have good defence. Boxrec rankings need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
If Khan can achieve half of what Hamed did then he will have done well.
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Khan doesnt havent a good defence!
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He's not the next Naseem Hamed: He's the first Amir Khan.
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Amir Khan? Not in the same class as a young Naz. Naz had more natural talent than Amir, I remember when Naz was robbed in the European final at schoolboy level in Dublin in 1986 - it made headlines. Khan didn't really pick up steam until he was 13-14. After the Euro success Naz was robbed at trials for the national team in the proceeding years because the 'powers that be' didn't agree with his fighting style or some shit. Never a big puncher in the amateurs, Naz went away after a highly successful 1990 and came back in 1992 to win the Junior ABA's with straight KO's (he said he'd been blessed with punching power from Allah) just to make sure he wasn't robbed, and he was going to be nominated for the Olympic trials because he was so special (even though he'd never fought as a senior before) but just could not wait to turn pro and so just got on with it because all his dreams were in the pro game.
I honestly think Naz could of gone to the Olympics and gone all the way.
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Naseem was fighting tough durable journeymen like Ricky Beard and some good Mexicans in his early career. He won the European title in less than 20 fights if I remember correctly.
Khan is fighting super-featherweights who are so obviously carefully hand-picked. Notice that his opponents have all been non punchers?
Warren isn't taking any chances is he?
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Amir Khan? Not in the same class as a young Naz. Naz had more natural talent than Amir, I remember when Naz was robbed in the European final at schoolboy level in Dublin in 1986 - it made headlines. Khan didn't really pick up steam until he was 13-14. After the Euro success Naz was robbed at trials for the national team in the proceeding years because the 'powers that be' didn't agree with his fighting style or some S***. Never a big puncher in the amateurs, Naz went away after a highly successful 1990 and came back in 1992 to win the Junior ABA's with straight KO's (he said he'd been blessed with punching power from Allah) just to make sure he wasn't robbed, and he was going to be nominated for the Olympic trials because he was so special (even though he'd never fought as a senior before) but just could not wait to turn pro and so just got on with it because all his dreams were in the pro game.
I honestly think Naz could of gone to the Olympics and gone all the way.
Amir did get knocked down at the ABA's last year remember ;)
Hamed was NEVER knocked down in the amateurs.
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Naz was just awesome, man, he won everything in the 90's, and he was just a kid.
Here's his list of achievements in the 90's:
1989/90-
NABC Class A Light-Flyweight Champion
1990-
National Schoolboy Light-Flyweight Champion
Junior ABA Light-Flyweight Champion
Junior Four Nations Light-Flyweight Champion (in Belfast against Damon Kelly)
1992-
Junior ABA Flyweight Champion (with straight KO's, including a 30-second KO of Michael Brodie in the final)
Won his pro debut with a bodyshot
Won his first three pro bouts in Round Two, at Flyweight
1994-
European Bantumweight Champion
1994/95-
WBC International Super-Bantumweight Champion
1995-
WBO Featherweight Champion
1997-
IBF Featherweight Champion
1998-
WBA Featherweight Champion
1999-
WBC Featherweight Champion
And 13 World Title defences, all in the 1990's.
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
It'll be interesting to see if Amir is European champion within three months of his 20th birthday.
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz was just awesome, man, he won everything in the 90's, and he was just a kid.
Here's his list of achievements in the 90's:
1989/90-
NABC Class A Light-Flyweight Champion
1990-
National Schoolboy Light-Flyweight Champion
Junior ABA Light-Flyweight Champion
Junior Four Nations Light-Flyweight Champion (in Belfast against Damon Kelly)
1992-
Junior ABA Flyweight Champion (with straight KO's, including a 30-second KO of Michael Brodie in the final)
Won his pro debut with a bodyshot
Won his first three pro bouts in Round Two, at Flyweight
1994-
European Bantumweight Champion
1994/95-
WBC International Super-Bantumweight Champion
1995-
WBO Featherweight Champion
1997-
IBF Featherweight Champion
1998-
WBA Featherweight Champion
1999-
WBC Featherweight
And 13 World Title defences, all in the 1990's.
He even beat the WBU champ (Kevin Kelley) too :P
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Originally Posted by WWatt
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz was just awesome, man, he won everything in the 90's, and he was just a kid.
Here's his list of achievements in the 90's:
1989/90-
NABC Class A Light-Flyweight Champion
1990-
National Schoolboy Light-Flyweight Champion
Junior ABA Light-Flyweight Champion
Junior Four Nations Light-Flyweight Champion (in Belfast against Damon Kelly)
1992-
Junior ABA Flyweight Champion (with straight KO's, including a 30-second KO of Michael Brodie in the final)
Won his pro debut with a bodyshot
Won his first three pro bouts in Round Two, at Flyweight
1994-
European Bantumweight Champion
1994/95-
WBC International Super-Bantumweight Champion
1995-
WBO Featherweight Champion
1997-
IBF Featherweight Champion
1998-
WBA Featherweight Champion
1999-
WBC Featherweight
And 13 World Title defences, all in the 1990's.
He even beat the WBU champ (Kevin Kelley) too :P
With a one-shot KO :P
Does Amir have any one-shot power, man?
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
WWatt you sure are a big naz fan
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Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
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Originally Posted by WWatt
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
He was a frightening combination puncher circa 94/95 though, with stupid reflexes back then.
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
This thread was to find out more about the potential of Khan, it has some how turned into a Naz shrine
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
This thread was to find out more about the potential of Khan, it has some how turned into a Naz shrine
that in itself tells you the potential of Khan ;)
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i agree khan is and is 99 % likely to ever be like naz but he has the same chance naz did at his age but he doesnt want to be trying to go through his career bieng compared to naz that'll get him no respect he needs to fight how he fights and go as far as he can with out emulating the great naseem hamed. imo:p
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The thing is as bad as it sounds their skin tone will always draw the comparison. It should end there but it would appear of late that Khan is doing his best to add credence to it. I wouldnt mind but he should be knocking people over in the ring, not on zebra crossings.
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The current world champions are:
Diego Corrales, Juan Diaz, Jesus Chavez, Acelino Freitas.
(info from fightnews.com site)
Can he box/punch like them? Cause if he can he will be champion then.
Thats my :twocents:
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Re: Debate? Is Amir Khan the Next Nas Hameed
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Originally Posted by hardrock
He won't look like Nas during the big fights.
Their styles are not exactly the same, although similar.
Khan has defence, quick flurries, and nice movement around the ring.
Sort of Leonard looking in some rounds. :o
But he doesn't move his body in those strange arranged patterns like Nas. ::**
And he might not have the power to KO against bigger names unlike Nas
who proved he was a good knockout artist against most. :boxingmatch:
Boxrec.com claim Nas as number one of all-time in the featherweight division.
:scratchchin:
ummm................. i dont know if you should be repeating the boxrec rankings to people (unless youre making people laugh at a party or something) cuz they have a tendancy to be alittle off
for example
#2 p4p rafael marquez
#11 p4p winky wright
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Originally Posted by hardrock
The current world champions are:
Diego Corrales, Juan Diaz, Jesus Chavez, Acelino Freitas.
(info from fightnews.com site)
Can he box/punch like them? Cause if he can he will be champion then.
Thats my :twocents:
hes like none of them.
certainly no jesus chavez, man im well into chavez atm, he rocks my socks
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
Too bad he doesn't have claim to a win over a great fighter....
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Not many people do, thats what makes them great and Hamed not ;)
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
Too bad he doesn't have claim to a win over a great fighter....
I know, man.
But remember, Barrera respected him enough to completely change his boxing style..
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Originally Posted by WWatt
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
Too bad he doesn't have claim to a win over a great fighter....
I know, man.
But remember, Barrera respected him enough to completely change his boxing style..
Respected him enough, or saw something that alot didn't.
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Originally Posted by Memphis
If Khan can achieve half of what Hamed did then he will have done well.
I think that too.
Looking at that list of achievements Its easy to forget (for me, anyway) just how young Naz was when he won the European and the World titles.
Khans Way off that.
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Those are strong words!!! to even try to compare the two....Naz was an all out top class fighter...He was a P4P fighter who was to be taken serious. The man would knock you out with punches you didn't know could be thrown from such an angle....His defense was his best offense yes but...it took a prime Barrera to out point him...Love him or hate him Naz is a legit legend...Kahn is just another fighter with some hype for the moment
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Is Amir Khan the next Hamed. Well, let's consider the evidence.
1. They have both come on to the boxing scene quickly, engendering a fair deal of hype and support from the fans.
2. Neither of them is especially keen on a guard, and they both like to showboat.
3. They were both ambitious who have absolutely no doubts in themselves.
4. And here's the contraversial one. Nas Hamed had a string of convictions for his driving, before eventually getting locked up. Amir Khan recently got his first driving conviction, not too long into his driving life. Let's hope AMir knuckles down and focusses on his boxing, and that he doesn't develop the same disregard on the road the Hamed eventually did, which became his downfall.
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Is Amir Khan the next Hamed. Well, let's consider the evidence.
1. They have both come on to the boxing scene quickly, engendering a fair deal of hype and support from the fans.
2. Neither of them is especially keen on a guard, and they both like to showboat.
3. They were both ambitious who have absolutely no doubts in themselves.
4. And here's the contraversial one. Nas Hamed had a string of convictions for his driving, before eventually getting locked up. Amir Khan recently got his first driving conviction, not too long into his driving life. Let's hope AMir knuckles down and focusses on his boxing, and that he doesn't develop the same disregard on the road the Hamed eventually did, which became his downfall.
So is that a YES or a NO? ;D
Errrrrrrrrrm...I'm thinkin...it's a YES! :-*
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Naz did lose fair and square to Dean Pithie at the 1989 Schools, and that was his last loss (before Barrera).
So Naz was actually undefeated then for the whole of the 1990's!
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Naz - love him or hate him was a tremendously interesting to watch.
Khan? not so sure yet!
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
This thread was to find out more about the potential of Khan, it has some how turned into a Naz shrine
that in itself tells you the potential of Khan ;)
Or how much we miss Naz?? Crazy part is more than half of us bashed him while he was still fighting
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KHANS THE NEXT NAZ OUTSIDE THEN RING BUT NOT IN IT. ;D
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
When Nas showed up on the scene people were drawn to his style because of his quickness and power. He use to fight some fights with his hands by his waist and would not even defend himself, I remember being so impressed. Even though Amir's career is very young it seems like that star power is moving in his direction, after he has a couple of big fights I think he will become very popular in the mecca of boxing which is the USA.
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Originally Posted by WWatt
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by WWatt
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
when amir khan gets more older he will be the next na hameed
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
Too bad he doesn't have claim to a win over a great fighter....
I know, man.
But remember, Barrera respected him enough to completely change his boxing style..
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Amir doesn't have the talent potential of Naz or the punching power. If Amir wants to be effective he'll have to work on his defense a lot more! Naz with his defense could get away with some things because his counters would come and hurt his opponent, Khan doesn't haev the power to do that, if his counters come off its not going to hurt eveyrone like Naz's did and he's going to get hit a second time
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[quote=WWatt ]
Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy.
He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.
Amir Khan wil be the next Naz Hameed. If Amir Khan still plays how he plays now and some stronger punches and he needs more technique and then he will be the next Naz Hameed