VILLORIA LOST NOOOOOOO!!!!

I CANT BELIEVE THIS S***! WHY HOW, WHAT NOW! I HAD VERY HIGH HOPES FOR MY BOY HERE! THE GAME YOU GOT VIDS MAN PLEASE :o

Shocker: Nino upsets Viloria!

Thursday, August 10 2006

By Victor Perea at ringside

In what could be the upset of the year, unheralded Omar Nino (24-2-1, 10 KOs) upset previously unbeaten WBC light flyweight champion Brian Viloria (19-1, 12 KOs) and seized his world title via unanimous decision on Thursday night at the Orleans Hotel-Casino in Las Vegas. Nino, rated WBC #10 and hand-picked for this voluntary defense, outworked Viloria and beat him to the punch all night, as the "Hawaiian Punch" seemed surprisingly reluctant to attack. In the end, the scores read 117-112, 118-110, 117-111. The loss likely torpedoes a 108lb unification superfight between Viloria and WBA champion Koki Kemeda.

Kaemeda would have got that decision ;D

Man I was hoping for a Viloria-Arce match, now it will never be

I don't know how Brian lost, but maybe I was expecting too much from the guy. Yes, he beat Ortiz in a grand fashion, had some bumpy rounds against Aguirre then went on to dominate and who's this guy Nino. He's supposed to be handpicked for a title defense. Well, that's boxing i remember Pac being a late substitute for Ledwaba and i dont how the hell he ended up fighting MAB he wasnt even a Featherweight then to contend.

shame :( But I think Vilora will say he overtrained.

Not that big of a shock. Viloria has always been overrated

CC for the news,I don't believe it! How did he lose???????????? I thought this kid was going to be unbeaten for a long long time! He'll bounce back.

I can't believe it, looking at the scores it looks like it was totally one-sided. But I never thought he would of been able to contend with Roberto Vasquez anyway.

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Man I was hoping for a Viloria-Arce match, now it will never be

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arce would whoop viloria's ass and both of them know it.
romero is no fluke either. he did stop a young and green arce in 1 rd once though i seriously doubt he can do it again.

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shame :( But I think Vilora will say he overtrained.

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nope. he said he just had a bad night. 8)

Bad night, man... Romero's 2 loses were by KO, I thought Viloria would have been able to catch him. Well it's back to the drawing board.

It looked to me that villoria got stung with an overhand right in the 1st round and was worried about getting countered from then on.

Brian is super talented but in the ring he always looks extremely vunerable, I'm not that surprised to be honest. Some fighters, especially champions have an aura of invincibility around them when they fight lesser opposition, Brian is definitly not one of those guys.

This is indeed a crying shame...but it had to happen sooner or later.

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This is indeed a crying shame...but it had to happen sooner or later.

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I thought he would be unbeaten until he fought VArce at least and I wanted to see Calderon and the Kameda matches too!!! Maybe a rematch here??

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This is indeed a crying shame...but it had to happen sooner or later.

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I thought he would be unbeaten until he fought VArce at least and I wanted to see Calderon and the Kameda matches too!!! Maybe a rematch here??

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El Phenomena? I smell my brother the Game back in there somewhere!

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This is indeed a crying shame...but it had to happen sooner or later.

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I thought he would be unbeaten until he fought VArce at least and I wanted to see Calderon and the Kameda matches too!!! Maybe a rematch here??

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El Phenomena? I smell my brother the Game back in there somewhere!

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Yeah man,it's me! I just wanted to change my name,was feeling saucy,I got bored with the other one and if I was a boxer,my name would be El Phenomena so I thought I'd use that!

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This is indeed a crying shame...but it had to happen sooner or later.

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I thought he would be unbeaten until he fought VArce at least and I wanted to see Calderon and the Kameda matches too!!! Maybe a rematch here??

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El Phenomena? I smell my brother the Game back in there somewhere!

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Yeah man,it's me! I just wanted to change my name,was feeling saucy,I got bored with the other one and if I was a boxer,my name would be El Phenomena so I thought I'd use that!

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Good enough for me babe.

You not a Viloria fan Wack?

I wasn't surprised. I saw his weakness in his last fight (I mean the one before this one) where he was cornered on the ropes several times, seemingly unable to do anything but just crouching behind the ropes with his head covered with his gloves - clear sign that he was losing his heart in the fight. He definitely has the power, shooking his opponent in the early rounds, but doesn't seem to have the heart to pursue his opponent relentlessly like Pacman. He seemed to be very bothered by the counters of his opponent, as mentioned here by jstrong and I think that was the major reason for his defeat. He just didn't want to take the risk of being countered too much and so wasn't able to score much.

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Brian is super talented but in the ring he always looks extremely vunerable, I'm not that surprised to be honest. Some fighters, especially champions have an aura of invincibility around them when they fight lesser opposition, Brian is definitly not one of those guys.

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On the contrary, I think he suffered from a syndrome common among champions, which I'll call "the defensive syndrome" (hey, it's mine so don't anyone dare to claim it!) where a champion thinks "I'm on the top so the only place to go is down." Here, the champion's mind is preoccupied with the 'defense' of his crown (belt), in direct contrast to that of the challenger's where he is out to get the crown. This kind of excessively defensive attitude makes him forget that he is out there in the ring to beat his opponent, not just to defend himself against him, as if he is holding his crown under his belly and his opponent trying hard to pry it out from him. When the champion loses his aggressiveness and becomes too defensive, that's a clear sign of the sydrome. Did that make sense, I hope it did.

Too bad but I'm not shocked, I was never blown away by his fights coming up on ESPN 2, I can't remember the guys name but one time I even thought he got a bit lucky to get the decision. The only time he's really looked great to me was the Ortiz fight. Be interesting to see how good he turns out.

i'd really like to see an arce darchinian fight. all bombs, all night.

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i'd really like to see an arce darchinian fight. all bombs, all night.

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It'll be a fight between Arce's heart and Darchinian's power.

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I wasn't surprised. I saw his weakness in his last fight (I mean the one before this one) where he was cornered on the ropes several times, seemingly unable to do anything but just crouching behind the ropes with his head covered with his gloves - clear sign that he was losing his heart in the fight. He definitely has the power, shooking his opponent in the early rounds, but doesn't seem to have the heart to pursue his opponent relentlessly like Pacman. He seemed to be very bothered by the counters of his opponent, as mentioned here by jstrong and I think that was the major reason for his defeat. He just didn't want to take the risk of being countered too much and so wasn't able to score much.

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I just got a copy of the fight,looking forard to seeing it.By the way bro it's me(the game,got bored,changed my name!). So where you not too keen on Viloria in the first place? I thought he was going to be a star,it will be every interesting to see what ahppens with his career now!

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You not a Viloria fan Wack?

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Ehhhhhhhhhhh...I wouldn't call myself a fan...because I only kept up with him in passing...but I liked what I saw.

I am a bit surprised...the more I think about it.

But then again...I've been shocked by so many things in boxing this year...I couldn't list them all...but in trying...

1: Sturm lost.
2: Hopkins beat Tarver.
3: Oscar KO'd somebody.
4: Morales got KTFO.
5: My kidneys are still functioning.

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You not a Viloria fan Wack?

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Ehhhhhhhhhhh...I wouldn't call myself a fan...because I only kept up with him in passing...but I liked what I saw.

I am a bit surprised...the more I think about it.

But then again...I've been shocked by so many things in boxing this year...I couldn't list them all...but in trying...

1: Sturm lost.
2: Hopkins beat Tarver.
3: Oscar KO'd somebody.
4: Morales got KTFO.
5: My kidneys are still functioning.

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Is the last one true? Hard to believe!! For me,number 4 is number 1. Yeah,I liked what I saw of Viloria and guess I brought the hype without really analysing him properly(only saw his last few fights and the sparring with Boom Boom)

I'd like to think he is coming back though,maybe work on his weaknesses,rematch this guy and then unify with Kameda?

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I wasn't surprised. I saw his weakness in his last fight (I mean the one before this one) where he was cornered on the ropes several times, seemingly unable to do anything but just crouching behind the ropes with his head covered with his gloves - clear sign that he was losing his heart in the fight. He definitely has the power, shooking his opponent in the early rounds, but doesn't seem to have the heart to pursue his opponent relentlessly like Pacman. He seemed to be very bothered by the counters of his opponent, as mentioned here by jstrong and I think that was the major reason for his defeat. He just didn't want to take the risk of being countered too much and so wasn't able to score much.

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I just got a copy of the fight,looking forard to seeing it.By the way bro it's me(the game,got bored,changed my name!). So where you not too keen on Viloria in the first place? I thought he was going to be a star,it will be every interesting to see what ahppens with his career now!

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El Phenomena! What kinda name is that! Sounds like the Terribleee huh? You're really the greatest fan of Erik.

Of course I was at first pretty much keen on him, but then, seeing him somewhat looking helpless in the fight before this one (although he did manage to win), I thought I'll have to reassess his ability before he broke my heart, and lucky for me I wasn't that broken hearted yesterday.

By the way, who're you hiding from? ;D

El phenomena,it's funky! LMAO,it's nothing to do with Morales,although it does sound like it doesn't it!!Who was his last fight with? I was realy really impressed int he Aquirre fight!

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El phenomena,it's funky! LMAO,it's nothing to do with Morales,although it does sound like it doesn't it!!Who was his last fight with? I was realy really impressed int he Aquirre fight!

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I was talking about THE Aguirre fight! Real strange how two people can come up with a different view of the same fight. But I do think he won it, though not impressive. I thought I've seen his vulnerability in that fight - being pinned against the ropes when hurt. It reminded me of Roy Jones Jr.'s being trapped helplessly against the ropes during his last fight with Tarvers.

Na man,I thought he looked vulnerable on the ropes but he as not on the ropes for long.His combos,speed were awesome!! I thought he won easily against a decent fighter.

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Na man,I thought he looked vulnerable on the ropes but he as not on the ropes for long.His combos,speed were awesome!! I thought he won easily against a decent fighter.

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Yup, setting aside his weaknesses, his speed is really awesome, and he throws his punches in explosive bursts, but doesn't follow 'em up. If he can just keep following up those punches relentlessly, I think he can stop almost anyone in his division, sooner or later. Power-wise, I think he is THE best in the division. But again, if he doesn't use them, what good are they. So I think he should reassess his strategy and try to be more relentless in his attacks. Well, yeah, it's easily said than done, I guess.

he was outlanded 223 to 113 not a good performance by Hawaiian punch :(

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he was outlanded 223 to 113 not a good performance by Hawaiian punch :(

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WOAH!!That true? The guye he lost oo must be good,I mean he stopped a very ver very green Arce and now he beats Viloria too and may have set up a unfication match for himself! I can't wait to see this fight!

Hey, where's this guy who said I only appear on Pacman threads!? HERE I AM!

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he was outlanded 223 to 113 not a good performance by Hawaiian punch :(

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WOAH!!That true? The guye he lost oo must be good,I mean he stopped a very ver very green Arce and now he beats Viloria too and may have set up a unfication match for himself! I can't wait to see this fight!

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Before you get disappointed, not very impressive; it's just that Brian didn't do much and the other guy just made himself busy. Brian doesn't have much footworks or foot movements (is there a difference between the two?) so he's an easy target. But he wasn't hurt much in the fight, or was he avoiding being hurt? OOps, I forgot, we wear different colored glasses so don't take my word for it, maybe you might find it exxxxxxciting!!!

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he was outlanded 223 to 113 not a good performance by Hawaiian punch :(

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WOAH!!That true? The guye he lost oo must be good,I mean he stopped a very ver very green Arce and now he beats Viloria too and may have set up a unfication match for himself! I can't wait to see this fight!

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Before you get disappointed, not very impressive; it's just that Brian didn't do much and the other guy just made himself busy. Brian doesn't have much footworks or foot movements (is there a difference between the two?) so he's an easy target. But he wasn't hurt much in the fight, or was he avoiding being hurt? OOps, I forgot, we wear different colored glasses so don't take my word for it, maybe you might find it exxxxxxciting!!!

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Sooo you did not enjoy the fight then Pacfan?

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CC for the news,I don't believe it! How did he lose???????????? I thought this kid was going to be unbeaten for a long long time! He'll bounce back.

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I Told all of you (including you The Game) HE WAS GONNA LOOSE SOON.


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