Should Jay Nady ever be allowed to ref a big fight again after yesterday’s performance? Once again we saw an American ref helping and protecting the “native” American boxer.
In many situations it looked like Nady was a member of team Rahman.
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Should Jay Nady ever be allowed to ref a big fight again after yesterday’s performance? Once again we saw an American ref helping and protecting the “native” American boxer.
In many situations it looked like Nady was a member of team Rahman.
I just watched the final round. What the fuck was the man doing ripping at Rahmans glove tape? It meant it needed to be repaired twice, once to cut off the damage and once to re-tape it, they could have just taped it back up if he had left it alone.
On second viewing Im not so sure that the tape was coming loose at all. The video quality isnt great on youtube so perhaps someone who wathed it live can help. Did it look damaged at all?
These refs. need to be investigated and it is really throwing more fuel on the antiamericanism fire.
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Originally Posted by Kevil
cc, i was just coming on here to post a similar thread and saw you beat me to the punch
at least the supposedly biased hbo team did a good job of pointing out nady's nonsense
also..................
lennox lewis is getting REALLY GOOD as a commentator, last night was by far and away his best performance (and he did a damn good job last fight)
Nady was involved in some of the worst boxing officiating in the past
I've seen him did in Japan before and i've never seen him back again in Asia. Maybe he was banned
hmmmmmmm i never thought jay nady was that bad? i didnt see the whole fight last night just the 12th. and jay did stop it so i wouldnt say he was all pro rahman on the rahman payroll but then again i only saw the 12th. i thought jay did good in the RJJ vs Ruiz fight tho.
This is why!
cool click duke that leg hugging pic is priceless. even the other one with hasim getting clocked and jay making a face like OH!!!
So I take it you think that the stoppage on the Zab-Tszyu was a bad stoppage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
All I saw was the last rd. of rahman-maskaev IMO it was a good stop rahman was a done deal. Regardless of how much time was left or what he had done in previous rds.
The stoppage was fine but it was not okay that Nady throughout the fight was attacking Oleg for holding and then when Rahman needed to rest and survive then he didn’t asked Rahman to stop holding. Rahman was holding Nady, Oleg and Oleg’s legs without being warned or asked to stop. That was not fair when Oleg could not even get close to Rahman before being warned from Nady.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
The famous “glove trick” that Nady ran in the start of rd. 12 to let Rahman get extra time to relax and breath was very bad sportsmanship and fortunately the American audience also responded with buhs.
I don’t see how you are able to get a point of bringing the Zab-Tszyu stoppage into this fight?
Nady was wrong for calling Maskaev for holding so frequently and so quickly. But in his defence I think Maskaev made things difficult for himself by holding alot early on, I think Nady thought he was stopping a problem before it got started, of course he had no idea if Maskaev was going to hold or not because he was in like a flash.
Wrong, but I understand what he was trying to do.
Larry was funny "YOU STOP IT JAY!!!"
I would have to disagree about the holding. IMO there are two types of holding, one you hold for the sake of holding (ala ruiz) and then there is holding because you are trying to keep from getting KOed. Two seperate types of holding.
Sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
I saw the fight...finally...& it wasn't that bad of a ref job.
Maskaev was doing, IWO, a good bit of holding in the first half of the fight & it switched to Rahman doing a good bit of holding in the last half of the fight...until he got dropped. ;D
I thought that Nady did fine.
This happens in Germany alot...but once again...you only dish on the American aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
Interesting...well...no not really.
Me too. I think Nady is a Royal Member of Team Rahman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
He probably won't keep his position long though. Know what I mean? ;)
It wasnt the best refing in the world but like wacko said, it paled in comparison to some of the refing and jugding going on in Germany, the main culprits are the EBU, they are thieves.
:coolclick: damn right bro, i like him a lot too.Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
You guys being serious??? I find Lewis commentary to be dry and devoid of any enthusiasm or anything(except for the 12th round) and as good a boxer he was,you would not be able to tell from the comments he comes out. Alot of his sentences do not make sense.
As for Nady,I think the stoppage was right but other than that and a few other times too,I think he is an idiot. I don't know,I mean Oleg WAS HARDLY holding and he threatened to take a point away,had the fight gone to points,that could have been crucial and not just that but in a few other fights too,he does the same silly things,makes silly remarks at the begnning of fights,and I feel shows for the camera at times rather than focusing on his job.
The best fer BY FAR is that Mexican dude who looks like my gramps,sheesh,I forgot his name,haven't seen him around for a while.You know who I'm talking about? He rules!!
JOE CORTEZ,THAT'S HIS NAME!!! HE RULES!!! :D
I am not surprised that you found Nady’s performance fine. You also applused the ref and the judges work in the Spinks-Karmazin fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
What is your point about Germany and its poor refs and judges? Do you support that one mistake justifies another mistake or what is your point?
German boxing had its own very biased and poor decisions and now you hint that it is okay that American boxing makes the shame poor trick because it happen in Germany before?
Lewis is a good commentator and only getting better. Joe Cortez is classic!!! and the ref job was horrid...didn't say a word in the 12th. I thought a point deduction for Rahman for holding in that round would have been appropriate. Had he warned Rahman like he should have.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Phenomena
Lewis definately tried to be more enthusiatic in his commentary but for me he was still second rate.
He made me laugh at the post fight chat with Lampley. "definately, with the amateur background comes a lot of experience, which means you have had more experience, and in a tough fight you know what to do becasue of all the experience" ;D Right on Lenny.
Manny Steward cracks me up with his 1 sided-ness. He was screaming to Lamon Brewster 'GO TO THE BODY!!' when he was fighting lyakhovic.
Also, Lampley during Gatti vs Ward I when he cried 'stop it rick, you can stop it any time!'
Keep holding, Rahman ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...-rahman856.jpg
http://www.itv-boxing.com/Images/71299.jpg
Rahman held on best he could. Nice veterans move but if I could put a caption on the leg hugging pic I could sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
"Look man, I'll give you 25 dollas just for a box of french fries"
Trust me...I'd oppose just about anything that you supported, slick. Also...I never "applused" anything. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
My point is that we often...scratch that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevil
My point is that we ALWAYS hear you bitch about American politics in boxing...but you never call out anyone else.
My point is...if you don't have anything positive to say...maybe you shouldn't say anything at all...I'm pretty sure you know that EVERYONE tires of hearing your p!ssing & moaning.
nady sucked balls i'm watching the fight right now and i'm about to turn the sound off. but it almost seems as though maskaev benefitted from the constant and needless harassment, cause he started throwing jabs to keep rahman off him instead of allowing rahman to smother him---which is what nady was calling holding
just watched the end of the fight. i think nady needs a talking to. if he wants to play a major part in the heavy weight division he should put gloves on and box. being a spotlight craved ref isn't appreciated.
Jay Nady is the worst ref of our time period. In both Taylor vs Hopkins fights, he was being very biased and really did nothing to protect Taylor from Hopkins fouls. Every time Nady said break and stop punching, Hopkins would throw a bunch of kidney shots and when Taylor responded, he would only say something to him. That's just one of many instances where he ruined a fight.