Humberto Soto

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08-14-2006, 08:59 PM
OumaFan

Humberto Soto

Just downloaded his fight from Saturday, he continues to look good, he handled Juarez pretty much with ease and although Valle was not an elite guy he was supposed to be solid and Soto made it look easy. Nice uppercuts.

He's a big guy for the weight, with some skill, and he seems to be improving cause he hasn't lost for a while. I think he's a problem for just about anybody there, Barrera, obviously Juarez, Barrios, which is a fight I'd really like to see, and Pac would probably be too quick but he's a whole lot more dangerous of an opponent than Larios.
08-14-2006, 09:08 PM
Majesty

Re: Humberto Soto

he trains with Morales right?
08-14-2006, 09:15 PM
OumaFan

Re: Humberto Soto

I think he used to spar with him, I don't know if he still does.
08-15-2006, 12:10 AM
TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Re: Humberto Soto

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.
08-15-2006, 02:22 AM
Purist

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.

Rocky Juarez(who Soto beat) as much as I hate him I acknowledge that he gave Barerra a run for his money in a very close fight. I don't see anyone on Margarito's resume that would give any p4p fighter a run for their money in the same weight class or one above personally. And one of the main reasons Margarito doesn't get even the semi huge bouts is because Arum isn't gonna let that happen
08-15-2006, 02:56 AM
Kev

Re: Humberto Soto

I just watched the Soto fight from the weekend tonight, first time I seen him, he's good, very good in fact.

I'm glad to see that with guys like Soto, Ponce de Leon and Valero that there are still good guys around for Pacquiao to fight once Morales and Barrera have gone.

What with Marquez possibly moving up it's an exciting division right now.
08-15-2006, 05:12 AM
maracho

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.

Yea I was thinking the same thing--He beats Juarez with ease then we never hear anymore about him which isn't cool.
08-15-2006, 05:16 AM
frozensolid_702

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.

margarito just lost to a nobody like 4 fights ago............that is why nobody wants to fight him
08-15-2006, 05:31 AM
maracho

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.

margarito just lost to a nobody like 4 fights ago............that is why nobody wants to fight him

Oooh Did you have a grumpy day? Isnt it great to take out your frustrations on the pretty boy's nemesis
08-15-2006, 05:39 AM
frozensolid_702

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by maracho

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.

margarito just lost to a nobody like 4 fights ago............that is why nobody wants to fight him

Oooh Did you have a grumpy day? Isnt it great to take out your frustrations on the pretty boy's nemesis

nemesis?????????????

seriously?

you must be drunk or something

seriously, kid..................... have a cc on me for making me laugh
08-15-2006, 06:14 AM
maracho

Re: Humberto Soto

No silly here are some of the the Google definitions of nemesis on the Web:
divine retribution and vengeance; something that causes misery or death; "the bane of my life" ; destiny and inevitability, the repayment of sin and crime.
08-15-2006, 06:34 AM
Kev

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by maracho

No silly here are some of the the Google definitions of nemesis on the Web:
divine retribution and vengeance; something that causes misery or death; "the bane of my life" ; destiny and inevitability, the repayment of sin and crime.

Yeah but not one of those applies to Margarito and Floyds relationship.

Here is a better and more appropriate word, inferior

Google describes this as follows: 1. Low or lower in order, degree, or rank: Captain is an inferior rank to major.
2.
a. Low or lower in quality, value, or estimation: inferior craft; felt inferior to his older sibling.
b. Second-rate; poor: an inferior translation.
3. Situated under or beneath.
n.
1. A person lower in rank, status, or accomplishment than another.
08-15-2006, 07:29 AM
maracho

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Yes but my definition is guaranteed truth and yours may never be known
08-15-2006, 08:34 AM
Kev

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by maracho

Yes but my definition is guaranteed truth and yours may never be known

Trust me Margarito ain't Floyds nemesis!

Floyd would win a lopsided decision. Margarine is the most overated boxer fighting today, well after Amir Khan.
08-15-2006, 09:40 AM
El Gamo

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by Starr

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Originally Posted by TheReturnOfAGsmurf2

Huberto Soto is going to be the Margarito of his division...meaning that no one is going to want to fight him.

Rocky Juarez(who Soto beat) as much as I hate him I acknowledge that he gave Barerra a run for his money in a very close fight. I don't see anyone on Margarito's resume that would give any p4p fighter a run for their money in the same weight class or one above personally. And one of the main reasons Margarito doesn't get even the semi huge bouts is because Arum isn't gonna let that happen

Kermit Cintron ;D He would give alot of people problems with his power and is about to win IBF title. Diaz beat Spinks who beat Zab(maybe peeps had Zab in P4P lists?)

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by maracho

Yes but my definition is guaranteed truth and yours may never be known

Trust me Margarito ain't Floyds nemesis!

Floyd would win a lopsided decision. Margarine is the most overated boxer fighting today, well after Amir Khan.

Honestly,how many Margarito fights have you seen?
08-16-2006, 01:19 AM
OumaFan

Re: Humberto Soto

Evidence that literally every conversation in boxing absolutely has to revolve around Floyd-Margarito

I really do like Soto, a big guy with some skills, speed, power and chin. Very experienced too.

How deep is 130? Pac, Barrera, Morales, Barrios, Guzman, Soto, Juarez, Valero, JMM could fight there, and some pretty decent prospects. Great division even if Barrera and Morales retire
08-16-2006, 09:03 AM
El Gamo

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Lolwer weight classes have always been good and always will be,I'm backing Ponce De Leon(as long as he doesn't fight a boxer) and my main man Valero to be the future stars.We will find out about Guzman soon enough and EM and Mab are nearly done! and of course the Pacman is still there! I also believe Soto will be avoided like the plague,he can make anyone look bad BUT can anyone fill me in on his losses,as he has quite a few!
08-17-2006, 02:50 AM
OumaFan

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by El Phenomena

Lolwer weight classes have always been good and always will be,I'm backing Ponce De Leon(as long as he doesn't fight a boxer) and my main man Valero to be the future stars.We will find out about Guzman soon enough and EM and Mab are nearly done! and of course the Pacman is still there! I also believe Soto will be avoided like the plague,he can make anyone look bad BUT can anyone fill me in on his losses,as he has quite a few!

Soto could be avoided, no doubt some fighters will pull the "look at who he he's lost to" line but I have faith in Pac, he'll fight anyone, if Soto's one of the top contenders I would hope that he'll fight him.

I don't think too highly of Ponce de Leon. Just way too raw and unskilled. I could be wrong but he's almost assuredly going too be outboxed soon just like Cabalerro did.
08-17-2006, 03:48 AM
Galaxy

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by El Phenomena

Lolwer weight classes have always been good and always will be,I'm backing Ponce De Leon(as long as he doesn't fight a boxer) and my main man Valero to be the future stars.We will find out about Guzman soon enough and EM and Mab are nearly done! and of course the Pacman is still there! I also believe Soto will be avoided like the plague,he can make anyone look bad BUT can anyone fill me in on his losses,as he has quite a few!

His last loss was to Kevin Kelley in 2002 a majority decision loss. But Kevin deserved the nod there. He only has one loss where he didn't see the end in 2000 against Hector Marquez he quit in the 11th.
08-17-2006, 05:41 AM
maracho

Re: Humberto Soto

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Originally Posted by El Phenomena

Lolwer weight classes have always been good and always will be,I'm backing Ponce De Leon(as long as he doesn't fight a boxer) and my main man Valero to be the future stars.We will find out about Guzman soon enough and EM and Mab are nearly done! and of course the Pacman is still there! I also believe Soto will be avoided like the plague,he can make anyone look bad BUT can anyone fill me in on his losses,as he has quite a few!

Soto like many mexicans started fighting professionaly at the age of about 16 and learned his skills the hard way. His only knockout was due to his corner stepping in but because Soto quit as some would like you to believe concerning the Mexican http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Duran/Duran082405.htm