Mayweather To Make 8 Mil Plus PPV Against Baldomir

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Floyd Mayweather Jr., widely regarded as the pound-for-pound king, will challenge welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir Nov. 4 in an HBO PPV main event at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

"We're very excited about fighting Baldomir," said Leonard Ellerbe, a Mayweather adviser. "It's the fight the fans want to see. Baldomir is coming off two major victories and the fans say he's the true welterweight champion. You have the 'Pretty Boy' coming to take away his welterweight championship."

Baldomir, of Argentina, was unknown when he upset undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah in January in New York, Judah's hometown. Baldomir parlayed that victory into a July 22 fight against popular Arturo Gatti, stopping him with ease in the ninth round in Atlantic City, N.J., Gatti's home base.

Now he will face Mayweather in Las Vegas, where Mayweather lives.

Despite nine losses, Baldomir is 19-0-2 in his last 21 bouts and hasn't lost since 1998. He has only been stopped once, suffering a second-round knockout in 1994 in his seventh fight.

"We know Baldomir is a tough, hard-nosed competitor," Ellerbe said. "He's coming to knock Floyd off his throne. He's been known for going to people's backyards and pulling off upsets. In his mind, he's coming to Vegas to do the same thing. We've got different plans for him. We'll show Baldomir why Floyd is the best fighter in the world. But we expect a very tough fight from him. He didn't just happen to go into New York and beat a very talented Zab Judah. He didn't just happen to go into Atlantic City and beat Gatti. We know what he is bringing to the table. When you are on top like Floyd is, everyone is gunning for you."

Mayweather (36-0, 29 KOs) also holds victories against Gatti and Judah. He stopped Gatti last summer to win a junior welterweight title. Then he moved up in weight in April and easily outpointed Judah, who was coming off the loss to Baldomir.

For beating Judah, Mayweather, 29, won a tainted welterweight belt, one that Judah was allowed to keep by the IBF even though he lost to Baldomir (43-9-6, 13 KOs) in a title fight. Mayweather later relinquished it.

Against Baldomir, Mayweather can win the recognized world welterweight championship. He previously won titles as a junior lightweight, lightweight and junior welterweight.

Promoter Dan Goossen will put on the card after signing Mayweather, who has been a free agent since buying out longtime promoter Top Rank for $750,000 following the Judah fight.

Mayweather fought his entire career under Top Rank except for a fight against Sharmba Mitchell last fall. Goossen promoted that one, and is excited to be working with Mayweather again.

"I think it's a great matchup," Goossen said. "The two styles will mesh very well. The talented, flashy fighter in Floyd Mayweather, the pound-for-pound best in the world, who is trying to get that legacy of being one of the greatest against a man who hasn't lost in nine years, who keeps on coming at you with constant pressure, pressure, pressure. It's a fight fan's fight.

"But when you fight someone like Baldomir, you are fighting someone who is not only the linear champion but a guy who can go out there and upset the apple cart. He's done it before. People realize that it's a great fight and it's got intrigue."

Although terms of Mayweather's deal with Goossen were not released, industry sources believe he will make at least $8 million, plus a percentage of pay-per-view profits. Mayweather rejected the same offer from Top Rank to face titlist Antonio Margarito.

Baldomir, 35, who will earn about $1.7 million plus a percentage of pay-per-view profits, got the fight over junior middleweight titlist Cory Spinks. Mayweather would have moved up to 154 pound for that match, one that was heavily criticized in the media when the negotiations came to light.

In addition to so much negative press about a Spinks fight, there were other issues. Spinks, who beat Roman Karmazin July 8 to win the belt, owes Rodney Jones a mandatory fight, and Jones promoter Artie Pelullo was considering legal action if Jones was bypassed in favor of a Spinks-Mayweather bout.

It was enough to cause Mayweather's handlers a big enough headache that they decided to finalize a deal with Baldomir, which is the more fan-friendly fight anyway.

"I think when everything got down to the nitty gritty, one of the factors was that Spinks obviously had a mandatory due with Rodney Jones and we really didn't want to get into a situation where there were legal ramifications," Goossen said. "They were neck and neck all the way through the process, but Baldomir was the direction that gave Floyd the ability to fight someone everyone wanted to see him in the ring with."

The Mayweather camp also had conversations with handlers for former junior welterweight champ Kostya Tszyu, who hasn't fought since losing his title to Ricky Hatton 14 months ago. Those talks, however, quickly died when it became apparent that Tszyu wasn't going to fight for the rest of the year.

Hush hush Margarito fans ;D

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Hush hush Margarito fans ;D

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cc for you
i wonder what excuse all of the margarito fans (both of them, the game and maracho) are gonna come up with now?

well...............
it looks like hes gonna get more $ for baldomir
baldomir is the universally recognized champ at 147 (no, the vacant wbo strap where tony never had to fight a champ to obtain doesnt count)
so baldomir hasnt lost in like 10 years (margarito just lost to a bum like 4 fights ago)
baldomir has a couple of respectable wins on his resume (unlike margarito)



lets hear it margarito fans

Sounds like some promoters are real concerned about the countless Margarito blogs.

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Hush hush Margarito fans ;D

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cc for you
i wonder what excuse all of the margarito fans (both of them, the game and maracho) are gonna come up with now?

well...............
it looks like hes gonna get more $ for baldomir
baldomir is the universally recognized champ at 147 (no, the vacant wbo strap where tony never had to fight a champ to obtain doesnt count)
so baldomir hasnt lost in like 10 years (margarito just lost to a bum like 4 fights ago)
baldomir has a couple of respectable wins on his resume (unlike margarito)



lets hear it margarito fans

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Margery is a big fraud, she would get killed by Floyd

Fair enough,he is making $8mill,he wasn't getting that from a Spinks fight though and we shall see who he fights next to get $8million ;D Also,to say Margarito has not fought respectable opponents shows your judgement being clouded by dislike of a fighter,a very weak aspect in your arguments. I'll be a man and admit,this is the first half decent fight P4P number 2 PBF has taken in 4 years,it's still not as dangerous as Tony though. I want to see what happens after the Oscar fight,until then,I'm done with this topic.

F*CK ARUM!!!!! Floyd is getting an 8 million pay day and Margarito isn't getting squat!!!! Make fights happen Bob!!!! MAKE THEM HAPPEN!!

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F*CK ARUM!!!!! Floyd is getting an 8 million pay day and Margarito isn't getting squat!!!! Make fights happen Bob!!!! MAKE THEM HAPPEN!!

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Relax,Tony is fighting Clottey next which will be a tough fight and then hopefully Collazo/Quintana(who might be fighting each other soon!),maybe Williams if he gets a few more names and then he'll get his big payday I hope!

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F*CK ARUM!!!!! Floyd is getting an 8 million pay day and Margarito isn't getting squat!!!! Make fights happen Bob!!!! MAKE THEM HAPPEN!!

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Relax,Tony is fighting Clottey next which will be a tough fight and then hopefully Collazo/Quintana(who might be fighting each other soon!),maybe Williams if he gets a few more names and then he'll get his big payday I hope!

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Arum needs to work harder or something! I mean Margarito should be having bigger fights. I just feel like he's getting shortchanged by Arum. Which is something I'd expect from Don King.

I agree, Arum is being a prick at the moment,I mean why did he not offer Shane $8million? That would have tempted him! Then again,he has put Tony on the map,I mean as much BS as I think it is,this most feared tag and likening his situation to Hagler's has given Tony ALOT of exposure! I mean before that,maybe not many on forums knew of Margarito,now EVERONYE does and he is putting him on thE cOTTO crd which means there will be thousands of latinos there=more exposure! I just hope it#s a good fight anD Tony wins via KO!

Well people know him but it's going to make it look worse if Arum isn't doing anything to get TOny a fight. He got people to look at Tony so shouldn't he be doing something now!?!

He'll be fighting that tough Ghanian Joshua Clottey on the 9th of December! I wonder who my other boy Cotto is going to fight!

The title of the fight should be " Fight to Prove"...Mayweather should show the fans like us for a real great fight..your a real top P4P if you will win! i hope so!..

Good for Floyd. 8 mill & 3 belts if he can win.

Maybe Margartio should jump ship & sign up with Oscar...Oscar could get him some fights...& good ones...I like the Clottey fight though.

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Hush hush Margarito fans ;D

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cc for you
i wonder what excuse all of the margarito fans (both of them, the game and maracho) are gonna come up with now?

well...............
it looks like hes gonna get more $ for baldomir
baldomir is the universally recognized champ at 147 (no, the vacant wbo strap where tony never had to fight a champ to obtain doesnt count)
so baldomir hasnt lost in like 10 years (margarito just lost to a bum like 4 fights ago)
baldomir has a couple of respectable wins on his resume (unlike margarito)



lets hear it margarito fans

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Margery is a big fraud, she would get killed by Floyd

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cc back to you

I agree that right now only fights with either Oscar or Floyed can gather $8million but I bet that this figure is all anti Margarito propaganda . However it is a step up from Floyed's fights over the last four years but will not generate noghting like a fight with Margarito or Ouma in my opinion.

This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

What do you expect from Arum? He's losing it. I mean, have you heard him talk during the pressers? there is usually about a 2 to 4 second pause between each word. TopRank is losing its credibility. A promoter who cannot make sure his fighter can make the weight on a much anticipated fight(Castillo/Corrales2.5) and is not checking up on him??? So of course Margarito is going to suffer the consequences of having that type of a promoter.

The truth is Margarito has all the right weapons to destroy Mayweather and because of that he will never convince PBF to take a fight with him.

Mayweather fans enjoy your boys magician like abilities to duck real challenges! Oh, and for the record PBF could care less about the fans, obviously.

BOYCOTT THE FIGHT!!!! NO MORE CAKE WALKS!!!!

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This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

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ummmm........ winky is a middle
hattons camp said that ricky is not ready for mayweather (and that was before the collazo exposure)this is common knowledge to those who actually follow boxing
cotto is not even close to being ready for floyd
as far as margarito, go read every other thread on this board

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What do you expect from Arum? He's losing it. I mean, have you heard him talk during the pressers? there is usually about a 2 to 4 second pause between each word. TopRank is losing its credibility. A promoter who cannot make sure his fighter can make the weight on a much anticipated fight(Castillo/Corrales2.5) and is not checking up on him??? So of course Margarito is going to suffer the consequences of having that type of a promoter.

The truth is Margarito has all the right weapons to destroy Mayweather and because of that he will never convince PBF to take a fight with him.

Mayweather fans enjoy your boys magician like abilities to duck real challenges! Oh, and for the record PBF could care less about the fans, obviously.

BOYCOTT THE FIGHT!!!! NO MORE CAKE WALKS!!!!

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wow, solid points ::**
last time i checked, baldomir is the universally recognized welterweight champion of the world (and ring magazine #1 welterweight)
i guess thats the easy way out, right?

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I agree that right now only fights with either Oscar or Floyed can gather $8million but I bet that this figure is all anti Margarito propaganda . However it is a step up from Floyed's fights over the last four years but will not generate noghting like a fight with Margarito or Ouma in my opinion.

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This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

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What do you expect from Arum? He's losing it. I mean, have you heard him talk during the pressers? there is usually about a 2 to 4 second pause between each word. TopRank is losing its credibility. A promoter who cannot make sure his fighter can make the weight on a much anticipated fight(Castillo/Corrales2.5) and is not checking up on him??? So of course Margarito is going to suffer the consequences of having that type of a promoter.

The truth is Margarito has all the right weapons to destroy Mayweather and because of that he will never convince PBF to take a fight with him.

Mayweather fans enjoy your boys magician like abilities to duck real challenges! Oh, and for the record PBF could care less about the fans, obviously.

BOYCOTT THE FIGHT!!!! NO MORE CAKE WALKS!!!!

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hahahahaha,the revolution gathers momentum!! hahahahahah!!! CC's to you guys,all valid points. I wouldn't say it was a duck by Mayweather but Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti. Granted he is better than anyone Floyd has fought since Castillo but I can think of at leaat 4 fighters who could beat him at 147. You are right about Hatton but my boy Miguel(as much as I disagree with it)has said he will fight anyone and he included Mayweather,....and Margarito is the biggest threat to Floyd out there bar none...aaaaaand Floyd said he would fight Winky on NUMEROUS occasions!!!

And when Tony beatd Clottey and hopefully one more name fighter(Mosley,Collazo etc),then he can call out the big names and we shall see what happens then!! Next year will be exciting especially when PBF-Osca is done,Tony should have the 2 names by then,the money should be there and we will see if Floyd TRULY is ducking Tony Margarito. For now,I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.....

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I agree that right now only fights with either Oscar or Floyed can gather $8million but I bet that this figure is all anti Margarito propaganda . However it is a step up from Floyed's fights over the last four years but will not generate noghting like a fight with Margarito or Ouma in my opinion.

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This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

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What do you expect from Arum? He's losing it. I mean, have you heard him talk during the pressers? there is usually about a 2 to 4 second pause between each word. TopRank is losing its credibility. A promoter who cannot make sure his fighter can make the weight on a much anticipated fight(Castillo/Corrales2.5) and is not checking up on him??? So of course Margarito is going to suffer the consequences of having that type of a promoter.

The truth is Margarito has all the right weapons to destroy Mayweather and because of that he will never convince PBF to take a fight with him.

Mayweather fans enjoy your boys magician like abilities to duck real challenges! Oh, and for the record PBF could care less about the fans, obviously.

BOYCOTT THE FIGHT!!!! NO MORE CAKE WALKS!!!!

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hahahahaha,the revolution gathers momentum!! hahahahahah!!! CC's to you guys,all valid points. I wouldn't say it was a duck by Mayweather but Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti. Granted he is better than anyone Floyd has fought since Castillo but I can think of at leaat 4 fighters who could beat him at 147. You are right about Hatton but my boy Miguel(as much as I disagree with it)has said he will fight anyone and he included Mayweather,....and Margarito is the biggest threat to Floyd out there bar none...aaaaaand Floyd said he would fight Winky on NUMEROUS occasions!!!

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1.) baldomir is currently THE MAN at 147, plain and simple
2.) i didnt say anything about who cotto wants to fight, i said hes not ready and he is another guy who is coming up short as far as having done ANYTHING to warrant a fight of that calibur (but i do feel that cotto is going to be really good)
3.) as far as winky wright, he said he only takes that fight if its a 50/50 split even though in his previous fight with jermain he took 40 percent and ended up with a draw

im not doing the whole margarito thing again, right now

and who are these 4 fighters at 147 that can beat mayweather?

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This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

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ummmm........ winky is a middle
hattons camp said that ricky is not ready for mayweather (and that was before the collazo exposure)this is common knowledge to those who actually follow boxing
cotto is not even close to being ready for floyd
as far as margarito, go read every other thread on this board

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Valid points, But if Hattons not ready for Mayweather after 41 fights will he ever be?+ I dont think Hatton was exposed by Collazo, he was floored by another southpaw(magee) His style isnt suited to southpaws he throws too wildy and leaves himself exposed. Im not saying Hatton could beat pbf but its definitely the fight people want to see. Id also ike to see Hatton v Margarito.

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This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

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ummmm........ winky is a middle
hattons camp said that ricky is not ready for mayweather (and that was before the collazo exposure)this is common knowledge to those who actually follow boxing
cotto is not even close to being ready for floyd
as far as margarito, go read every other thread on this board

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Valid points, But if Hattons not ready for Mayweather after 41 fights will he ever be?+ I dont think Hatton was exposed by Collazo, he was floored by another southpaw(magee) His style isnt suited to southpaws he throws too wildy and leaves himself exposed. Im not saying Hatton could beat pbf but its definitely the fight people want to see. Id also ike to see Hatton v Margarito.

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Demand for Hatton vs. PBF is seriously down since that disaster against Collazo. Everyone was talking about it--and then no one was. Wouldn't be a close fight IMO. Hatton vs. Castillo would be way more competitive and fun to watch.

Please, please, please let Baldomir whoop his ass...

WATERLOO By STONEWALL JACKSON

Waterloo, Waterloo
Where will you meet your Waterloo?
Every puppy has its day
Everybody has to pay
Everybody has to meet his Waterloo

Now old Adam was the first in history
With an apple he was tempted and deceived
Just for spite the devil made him take a bite
And that's where old Adam met his Waterloo


Little General Napoleon of France
Tried to conquer the world but lost his pants
Met defeat known as Bonaparte's retreat
And that's when Napoleon met his Waterloo

Now a feller whose darling proved untrue
Took her life but he lost his too
Now he swings where the little birdie sings
And that's where Tom Dooley met his Waterloo

{Waterloo, Waterloo
Where will you meet your Waterloo?
Every puppy has its day
Everybody has to pay
Everybody has to meet his Waterloo}

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Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti.

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Right place at the right time is what boxing is all about ;) El you are ignoring the facts...

1. Zab was UNDISPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION when he lost
2. Baldomir beat Judah by UNANIMOUS DECISION not a lucky punch
3. Baldomir hasn't lost in 9 years
4. Baldomir is the recognised LINEAL Champion

I don't believe PBF is even top 3 P4P but if he beats Baldomir I will concede the fact that he deserves the spot.

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Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti.

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Right place at the right time is what boxing is all about ;) El you are ignoring the facts...

1. Zab was UNDISPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION when he lost
2. Baldomir beat Judah by UNANIMOUS DECISION not a lucky punch
3. Baldomir hasn't lost in 9 years
4. Baldomir is the recognised LINEAL Champion

I don't believe PBF is even top 3 P4P but if he beats Baldomir I will concede the fact that he deserves the spot.

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I don't just look at position and standing I look at styles. And by that, this is the easiest fight for Floyd right now. Baldomir may be all this and that but his style is tailor made for Floyd.

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Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti.

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Right place at the right time is what boxing is all about ;) El you are ignoring the facts...

1. Zab was UNDISPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION when he lost
2. Baldomir beat Judah by UNANIMOUS DECISION not a lucky punch
3. Baldomir hasn't lost in 9 years
4. Baldomir is the recognised LINEAL Champion

I don't believe PBF is even top 3 P4P but if he beats Baldomir I will concede the fact that he deserves the spot.

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I don't just look at position and standing I look at styles. And by that, this is the easiest fight for Floyd right now. Baldomir may be all this and that but his style is tailor made for Floyd.

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Then thats just lucky for Floyd ;D

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Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti.

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Right place at the right time is what boxing is all about ;) El you are ignoring the facts...

1. Zab was UNDISPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION when he lost
2. Baldomir beat Judah by UNANIMOUS DECISION not a lucky punch
3. Baldomir hasn't lost in 9 years
4. Baldomir is the recognised LINEAL Champion

I don't believe PBF is even top 3 P4P but if he beats Baldomir I will concede the fact that he deserves the spot.

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I don't just look at position and standing I look at styles. And by that, this is the easiest fight for Floyd right now. Baldomir may be all this and that but his style is tailor made for Floyd.

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Then thats just lucky for Floyd ;D

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Makes people like Kenny who implied to Floyd that Hatton was better then him screaming at Floyd "Who beat Kostya Tszyu!!!! Who beat Kostya Tszyu!?!" And then saying "You'll never be undisputed champ at 147 no matter what you do! I expect mroe from the p4p number 1!" And Floyd just laughed at him, I bet Brian Kenny saw that and is thinkin 'aww shit!! well..it was fun acting brave..." And Floyd driving around his house with a speaker phone saying "Hey KENNY whats wrong man!?!? Why you aitn answering your cell?! You can't call Pretty Boy back? Aww c'mon Kenny don't be like that...' And Kenny is cowering inside the house saying "Mommy make him go away....'

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Frozen bro,you are deluding yourself to think Baldo is the best at 147 just because he was in the right place,the right time v Zab and beat an aging Gatti.

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Right place at the right time is what boxing is all about ;) El you are ignoring the facts...

1. Zab was UNDISPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION when he lost
2. Baldomir beat Judah by UNANIMOUS DECISION not a lucky punch
3. Baldomir hasn't lost in 9 years
4. Baldomir is the recognised LINEAL Champion

I don't believe PBF is even top 3 P4P but if he beats Baldomir I will concede the fact that he deserves the spot.

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I don't just look at position and standing I look at styles. And by that, this is the easiest fight for Floyd right now. Baldomir may be all this and that but his style is tailor made for Floyd.

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Then thats just lucky for Floyd ;D

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Makes people like Kenny who implied to Floyd that Hatton was better then him screaming at Floyd "Who beat Kostya Tszyu!!!! Who beat Kostya Tszyu!?!" And then saying "You'll never be undisputed champ at 147 no matter what you do! I expect mroe from the p4p number 1!" And Floyd just laughed at him, I bet Brian Kenny saw that and is thinkin 'aww S***!! well..it was fun acting brave..." And Floyd driving around his house with a speaker phone saying "Hey KENNY whats wrong man!?!? Why you aitn answering your cell?! You can't call Pretty Boy back? Aww c'mon Kenny don't be like that...' And Kenny is cowering inside the house saying "Mommy make him go away....'

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What do you expect from Arum? He's losing it. I mean, have you heard him talk during the pressers? there is usually about a 2 to 4 second pause between each word. TopRank is losing its credibility. A promoter who cannot make sure his fighter can make the weight on a much anticipated fight(Castillo/Corrales2.5) and is not checking up on him??? So of course Margarito is going to suffer the consequences of having that type of a promoter.

The truth is Margarito has all the right weapons to destroy Mayweather and because of that he will never convince PBF to take a fight with him.

Mayweather fans enjoy your boys magician like abilities to duck real challenges! Oh, and for the record PBF could care less about the fans, obviously.

BOYCOTT THE FIGHT!!!! NO MORE CAKE WALKS!!!!

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wow, solid points ::**
last time i checked, baldomir is the universally recognized welterweight champion of the world (and ring magazine #1 welterweight)
i guess thats the easy way out, right?

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So PBF fans which is it--Arum is senile for thinking Margarito is the most feared boxer or a genius who has the majority of fans fooled?

I might add that I am glad that Baldomir has the big belt especially since HBO did not really want him to have it as was obvious in the way they tried to force a rematch with Judah.
However I would say that Baldomir would probably have made more money fighting Margarito especially since Floyed is so insistently transfixed on the Margarito offer (no! no! no! no other figure will do cause I am going to show all those Margarito fans that I can make $8million elsewhere!). I mean what is Baldomir's measley share going to be this time?

I guese Baldi felt Margarito was the bigger risk even though I am sure that Arum offered him more than goosen did.

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So PBF fans which is it--Arum is senile for thinking Margarito is the most feared boxer or a genius who has the majority of fans fooled?

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I don't think that he's the most feared...but he is avoided. Very little reward for the risk.

Make no mistake about it, Margarito is gutty. He's a down in the trenches warrior...but let's also not forget that he aint one of the greatest boxers out there either...he can be beaten.

Arum's got a lot of issues to deal with other than Margarito being avoided though.

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Originally Posted by maracho

I might add that I am glad that Baldomir has the big belt especially since HBO did not really want him to have it as was obvious in the way they tried to force a rematch with Judah.

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HBO didn't want to force Baldomir Judah II because they had Judah Mayweather on their doorsteps.

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Originally Posted by maracho

However I would say that Baldomir would probably have made more money fighting Margarito especially since Floyed is so insistently transfixed on the Margarito offer (no! no! no! no other figure will do cause I am going to show all those Margarito fans that I can make $8million elsewhere!). I mean what is Baldomir's measley share going to be this time?

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Who knows what the offer actually is & who get's what...but the fight has been made & Floyd is HBO's fighter & one of the most marketable of all the champs out there. He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class.

If everyone's gonna cry over Margarito & what's best for him & Arum should do this & that...maybe you should all see it from the perspective of one of the biggest networks out there & one of the brightest fighters of the last decade...if the shoe was on the other foot...you'd be taking the same route.

Let's not be hypocritical here ladies. Promoting is promoting.

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Originally Posted by maracho

I guese Baldi felt Margarito was the bigger risk even though I am sure that Arum offered him more than goosen did.

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Probably...or either he saw that he could make the most money & get the most exsposure against one of the biggest stars out there before he retires & maybe MAYBE has a shot at winning.

Again...I aint in the fighter's head or the promoter's shoes...but that's how I'd look at it.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

1.I don't think that he's the most feared...but he is avoided. Very little reward for the risk.
Make no mistake about it, Margarito is gutty. He's a down in the trenches warrior...but let's also not forget that he aint one of the greatest boxers out there either...he can be beaten.Arum's got a lot of issues to deal with other than Margarito being avoided though.


2.HBO didn't want to force Baldomir Judah II because they had Judah Mayweather on their doorsteps.


3.Who knows what the offer actually is & who get's what...but the fight has been made & Floyd is HBO's fighter & one of the most marketable of all the champs out there. He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class.

4.If everyone's gonna cry over Margarito & what's best for him & Arum should do this & that...maybe you should all see it from the perspective of one of the biggest networks out there & one of the brightest fighters of the last decade...if the shoe was on the other foot...you'd be taking the same route.

5.Let's not be hypocritical here ladies. Promoting is promoting.

Again...I aint in the fighter's head or the promoter's shoes...but that's how I'd look at it.


6. Probably...or either he saw that he could make the most money & get the most exsposure against one of the biggest stars out there before he retires & maybe MAYBE has a shot at winning.

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1. Everbody can be beat and it does not take even a good boxer to do it and everybody has issues so what is your point?

2. Yeah, a Judah less a belt and a lot less credability but I also meant to say Showtime not HBO.

3. Oh we will find out what the offers are and I for one will let you know why it affects Floyed's credability. Yeah marketed and overprotected by HBO. "He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class." Oh my gosh another IBF title!

4.Wow another HBO conformist. I bet your one of the Saddo poster pawns constantly celibrating HBO and its commentators, refs, and judges on what a great job they do?

5.Yeah, HBO is a mega promoter and ruthless like the rest and that is why they are a major problem for boxing. If the shoe was on the other foot I would be giving the fans the fights they really want to see and for your information HBO's overprotection has backfired against Floyed in particular.

6. Wow! Floyed moves up, Baldomir retires and Margarito is left in the dark just as you like it. That is not good promoting and the fans are speaking out and deserve more for their money than a bunch of mismatches

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Originally Posted by maracho

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

1.I don't think that he's the most feared...but he is avoided. Very little reward for the risk.
Make no mistake about it, Margarito is gutty. He's a down in the trenches warrior...but let's also not forget that he aint one of the greatest boxers out there either...he can be beaten.Arum's got a lot of issues to deal with other than Margarito being avoided though.


2.HBO didn't want to force Baldomir Judah II because they had Judah Mayweather on their doorsteps.


3.Who knows what the offer actually is & who get's what...but the fight has been made & Floyd is HBO's fighter & one of the most marketable of all the champs out there. He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class.

4.If everyone's gonna cry over Margarito & what's best for him & Arum should do this & that...maybe you should all see it from the perspective of one of the biggest networks out there & one of the brightest fighters of the last decade...if the shoe was on the other foot...you'd be taking the same route.

5.Let's not be hypocritical here ladies. Promoting is promoting.

Again...I aint in the fighter's head or the promoter's shoes...but that's how I'd look at it.


6. Probably...or either he saw that he could make the most money & get the most exsposure against one of the biggest stars out there before he retires & maybe MAYBE has a shot at winning.

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1. Everbody can be beat and it does not take even a good boxer to do it and everybody has issues so what is your point?

2. Yeah, a Judah less a belt and a lot less credability but I also meant to say Showtime not HBO.

3. Oh we will find out what the offers are and I for one will let you know why it affects Floyed's credability. Yeah marketed and overprotected by HBO. "He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class." Oh my gosh another IBF title!

4.Wow another HBO conformist. I bet your one of the Saddo poster pawns constantly celibrating HBO's commentators?

5.Yeah HBO is a mega promoter and ruthless like the rest and that is why they are a major problem for boxing. If the shoe was on the other foot I would be giving the fans the fights they really want to see and for your information HBO's overprotection has backfired against Floyed in particular.

6. Wow! Floyed moved up, Baldomir retires and Margarito is left in the dark just as you like it. That is not good promoting and the fans speaking out and deserve more for there money than a bunch of mismatches

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HBO and Showtime do a great job promoting the sport of Boxing .

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

HBO and Showtime do a great job promoting the sport of Boxing .

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You definately need a coarse in customer relations along with a smidgen of insite and imagination.

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Originally Posted by maracho

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

HBO and Showtime do a great job promoting the sport of Boxing .

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You definately need a coarse in customer relations along with a smidgen of insite and imagination.

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Margarito will be fighting on Showtime very soon. His fight with Clottey will be fantastic, I commend Tony on taking a very tuff fight .If Tony gets past Clottey he will put himself legitimately in line a for a shot at Mayweather. But as it stands right now beside Kermit Cintron B- fighter , Margarito has been handed a steady dose of C level guys. and one C+ fighter who beat him, so its good he is stepping up and raising the bar.

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Originally Posted by maracho

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

HBO and Showtime do a great job promoting the sport of Boxing .

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You definately need a coarse in customer relations along with a smidgen of insite and imagination.

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and you need a course in spelling. very insightful points though.

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Originally Posted by ricky_hitman

This sounds like sounds like another duck from mayweather. When is he gonna fight a real-deal fighter? Like Margarito, Cotto, Hatton or even Winky?
Mayweather is definitely not my No1 p4p. I'd love to see Winky vs Calzaghe then we would find out the best p4p in the world.

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Originally Posted by maracho

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

1.I don't think that he's the most feared...but he is avoided. Very little reward for the risk.
Make no mistake about it, Margarito is gutty. He's a down in the trenches warrior...but let's also not forget that he aint one of the greatest boxers out there either...he can be beaten.Arum's got a lot of issues to deal with other than Margarito being avoided though.


2.HBO didn't want to force Baldomir Judah II because they had Judah Mayweather on their doorsteps.


3.Who knows what the offer actually is & who get's what...but the fight has been made & Floyd is HBO's fighter & one of the most marketable of all the champs out there. He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class.

4.If everyone's gonna cry over Margarito & what's best for him & Arum should do this & that...maybe you should all see it from the perspective of one of the biggest networks out there & one of the brightest fighters of the last decade...if the shoe was on the other foot...you'd be taking the same route.

5.Let's not be hypocritical here ladies. Promoting is promoting.

Again...I aint in the fighter's head or the promoter's shoes...but that's how I'd look at it.


6. Probably...or either he saw that he could make the most money & get the most exsposure against one of the biggest stars out there before he retires & maybe MAYBE has a shot at winning.

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1. Everbody can be beat and it does not take even a good boxer to do it and everybody has issues so what is your point?

2. Yeah, a Judah less a belt and a lot less credability but I also meant to say Showtime not HBO.

3. Oh we will find out what the offers are and I for one will let you know why it affects Floyed's credability. Yeah marketed and overprotected by HBO. "He has a shot at becoming a belt holder in yet another weight class." Oh my gosh another IBF title!

4.Wow another HBO conformist. I bet your one of the Saddo poster pawns constantly celibrating HBO and its commentators, refs, and judges on what a great job they do?

5.Yeah, HBO is a mega promoter and ruthless like the rest and that is why they are a major problem for boxing. If the shoe was on the other foot I would be giving the fans the fights they really want to see and for your information HBO's overprotection has backfired against Floyed in particular.

6. Wow! Floyed moves up, Baldomir retires and Margarito is left in the dark just as you like it. That is not good promoting and the fans are speaking out and deserve more for their money than a bunch of mismatches

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Gees man why dont you just cry about it :'( Yor boy MARGABURRITO has done nothing at this point.....Let hi fight Clottey and show the world something instead of being Arum's BIG BAD BOOGEY MAN "I'll fight you" just talk to Bob 1st :gay-as-steelie: