Does PBF Not Understand that...

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Chavez but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

you forgot mosley ;D

He is fighting Baldomir who IMO is better than Hatton, Cotto or Margarito. So IMO he is taking on 4 guys at once. And maybe after this victory you will come to understand this.

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if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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Go give that list to PBF and tell him you mapped out his next 3-4 years for him.

Floyd is still young and he's not going to become a shot fighter anytime soon. I think it's funny that you put Hatton in the #1 spot LOL. And what is Ouma doing on that list?

Margarito needs to beat some names before PBF would even consider it.

In fact the only name on that list that PBF should is ODLH. And that's PBF's dream fight...

And you are delusional to think Baldomir is going to win a decision vs PBF! NO FREAKING WAY! Baldomir wins 4 rounds AT MOST. PBF is going to mop the floor with Baldomir and Floyd is going to connect about 50% of the time

PBF vs Wright would be an interesting match up. Wright has a big size advantage but he's also getting old.

So Here's a new list of people PBF should fight to be easily considered the top P4P: 1) ODLH

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:

1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road.

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Well...atleast you stated one thing that's a fact in the above paragraph: All that came from someone that doesn't like him. ;)

He's not taking the easy road fighting Baldomir...he's taking the one that makes the most sense.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years.

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He's beaten several people in the last few years that were highly credited in the boxing world...for some reason people want to forget Gatti, Corley, & Judah.

That being said...I don't really rate them...but many people do.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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Odd...you'll give him credit for beating Baldomir...but you think that Floyd's being a pussy by fighting him.

Go in the bathroom...get a bar of soap & wash off that hate. ;D

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He is fighting Baldomir who IMO is better than Hatton, Cotto or Margarito. So IMO he is taking on 4 guys at once. And maybe after this victory you will come to understand this.

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Like I said, I give him credit for fighting Baldomir. But I believe that in his mind it is and easy fight for him (which it wont be)

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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I think it's funny that you put Hatton in the #1 spot LOL.

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Well he is the Linear recognized LW champion as he never lost it in the ring ;)

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:

1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road.

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Well...atleast you stated one thing that's a fact in the above paragraph: All that came from someone that doesn't like him. ;)

He's not taking the easy road fighting Baldomir...he's taking the one that makes the most sense.

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He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years.

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He's beaten several people in the last few years that were highly credited in the boxing world...for some reason people want to forget Gatti, Corley, & Judah.

That being said...I don't really rate them...but many people do.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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Odd...you'll give him credit for beating Baldomir...but you think that Floyd's being a pussy by fighting him.

Go in the bathroom...get a bar of soap & wash off that hate. ;D

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That was more of an afterthought, but I do believe that many people do think that he needs to fight one of the names on my list. I just seem like he fights the good opposition at a convinient time. I dont understand why hes fighting Spinks who isnt even rated in the top 20 in his own division by many (nevermind his gift belt).

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He is fighting Baldomir who IMO is better than Hatton, Cotto or Margarito. So IMO he is taking on 4 guys at once. And maybe after this victory you will come to understand this.

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Like I said, I give him credit for fighting Baldomir. But I believe that in his mind it is and easy fight for him (which it wont be)

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But if he kicks Baldomir's ass...royally...what will you say & think then?

Also...not just you...but what will the world say, I wonder?

I mean...right now...Baldo is being labled as the one man at Welter...if Mayweather destroys him...you can bet your ass he won't get respect from haters & detractors.

Pity. Baldo will be written off & Floyd will still be searching for fans outside of his fans.

Kinda sad. ::**

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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Go give that list to PBF and tell him you mapped out his next 3-4 years for him.

Floyd is still young and he's not going to become a shot fighter anytime soon. I think it's funny that you put Hatton in the #1 spot LOL. And what is Ouma doing on that list?

Margarito needs to beat some names before PBF would even consider it.

In fact the only name on that list that PBF should is ODLH. And that's PBF's dream fight...

And you are delusional to think Baldomir is going to win a decision vs PBF! NO FREAKING WAY! Baldomir wins 4 rounds AT MOST. PBF is going to mop the floor with Baldomir and Floyd is going to connect about 50% of the time

PBF vs Wright would be an interesting match up. Wright has a big size advantage but he's also getting old.

So Here's a new list of people PBF should fight to be easily considered the top P4P: 1) ODLH

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no particular order ;)

That is true Big H but you have to agree that Hatton's resume can't even compare to PBFs.

As for the PBF-Baldo fight...I dont see why some people think it will be difficult for PBF. Baldomirs two main strengths in this fight are his size and toughness. This are going to be countered by Floyd's speed and endurance. Baldomir does not have one punch power and if PBF gets tagged with a good shot he's going to be out of the way before anymore hit. So Baldomir is NOT going to KO PBF. And can Baldomir outbox PBF? Hell no!

Floyd might beak a hand but he's going to win this fight by lopsided UD.


**By the way BoomBoom, I used to have a similar view of PBF that you have now. I suggest hitting up youtube and just watching him in action from fights through his career. He's the Einstein of boxing and his timing is absolutly incredible. Watch PBF vs. Gatti and then Baldomir vs. Gatti for comparison and keep in mind that it was a fresher Gatti that PBF humiliated.

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He is fighting Baldomir who IMO is better than Hatton, Cotto or Margarito. So IMO he is taking on 4 guys at once. And maybe after this victory you will come to understand this.

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Like I said, I give him credit for fighting Baldomir. But I believe that in his mind it is and easy fight for him (which it wont be)

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But if he kicks Baldomir's a**...royally...what will you say & think then?

Also...not just you...but what will the world say, I wonder?

I mean...right now...Baldo is being labled as the one man at Welter...if Mayweather destroys him...you can bet your a** he won't get respect from haters & detractors.

Pity. Baldo will be written off & Floyd will still be searching for fans outside of his fans.

Kinda sad. ::**

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PBF puts a lot of weight on his own shoulder...That being said IF be beats Baldomir than he should be recognised as the real Welterweight Champ. BUT like i said before i think this is a dangerous fight for him. Baldomir is not intimidated by pbf and will take some to land some. also Baldomir is by far the strogest fighter he will have ever been in the ring with

Margarito is a hyped crowd pleaser, a fight with Baldy has much more worth than one with Margarito.

I don't care how wide his shots are or how exciting he is to watch he is a level below baldimor. I like Hatton but I've now seen through a bit of his hype, I think he can beat Floyd at the right weight and if his camp focus more on just mauling people... Ricky used to be fast and can box but his camp have stopped bringing that out of him. Hatton isn't the number one person Floyd needs to beat to be classed as an all time great P4Per.

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That is true Big H but you have to agree that Hatton's resume can't even compare to PBFs.

As for the PBF-Baldo fight...I dont see why some people think it will be difficult for PBF. Baldomirs two main strengths in this fight are his size and toughness. This are going to be countered by Floyd's speed and endurance. Baldomir does not have one punch power and if PBF gets tagged with a good shot he's going to be out of the way before anymore hit. So Baldomir is NOT going to KO PBF. And can Baldomir outbox PBF? Hell no!

Floyd might beak a hand but he's going to win this fight by lopsided UD.


**By the way BoomBoom, I used to have a similar view of PBF that you have now. I suggest hitting up youtube and just watching him in action from fights through his career. He's the Einstein of boxing and his timing is absolutly incredible. Watch PBF vs. Gatti and then Baldomir vs. Gatti for comparison and keep in mind that it was a fresher Gatti that PBF humiliated.

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I dont think he can outbox him, but he can outhustle him like the faster Judah. Most of the guys that PBF have fought at the higher weights let him fight his fight. Baldomir only fights one way and he fights that way every round. I honestly think that PBF will be hurt a few times in this fight and Baldomir will win a close decision

Good point BoomBoom. I think Floyd is very good but a lot of the fights I have seen him have with guy's they have aloud Floyd to fight his fight and tried to beat him at his own game.

Not the way to beat him.

Excellent points Boom boom,although saying that Baldo is a step up from his last few fights.

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That is true Big H but you have to agree that Hatton's resume can't even compare to PBFs.

As for the PBF-Baldo fight...I dont see why some people think it will be difficult for PBF. Baldomirs two main strengths in this fight are his size and toughness. This are going to be countered by Floyd's speed and endurance. Baldomir does not have one punch power and if PBF gets tagged with a good shot he's going to be out of the way before anymore hit. So Baldomir is NOT going to KO PBF. And can Baldomir outbox PBF? Hell no!

Floyd might beak a hand but he's going to win this fight by lopsided UD.


**By the way BoomBoom, I used to have a similar view of PBF that you have now. I suggest hitting up youtube and just watching him in action from fights through his career. He's the Einstein of boxing and his timing is absolutly incredible. Watch PBF vs. Gatti and then Baldomir vs. Gatti for comparison and keep in mind that it was a fresher Gatti that PBF humiliated.

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Bro,NO ONE is questioning his talent,how can you? It's his level of opposition that people are questioning,that's all. Talent wise,he is a marvel to watch.Yes and I totally agree Boom Boom,Floyd has fought fighters who let him fight his fight,in fact fighters who he can stand toe to toe with and win. Even Baldo is a light hitter.
Adam,to say Baldo is a level above Margarito is ridiculous considering Baldo sparred with Tony and said he is very powerful and that he would not fight him...Tony would beat him badly,it's just Baldo has been in the right place at the right time,he beat an unfocussed champ in Judah and beat a guy who has no business at 147,Gatti. If peeps don't give lil Floyd props for beating Gatti,then NO way should Baldo get much either!

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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O.K. for starters here Mayweather never fought Lazcano! Baldomir ain't the easy road man, he's the welterweight champion of the world god damn it! Floyd will put on a clinic in this fight but make no mistake it won't be a hollow victory cause Gatti or Judah couldn't! The only guys he has to fight to secure his legacy would be DLH, Mosley, Wright would be a bonus & Hatton would cap things of.

Yeah but Galaxy,it would depend on what you meant by legacy? As in,one of the greatest boxers of all time?Remember Floyd talks about being the greatest of all time or at least 1,and with his current resum,NO WAY! I can name a few active fighters who have better resumes than PBF-Barrerra,Morales,Pacman,Winky, etc They may not have their 0's in tact but they have had bigger fights ergo bigger wins than PBF!

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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O.K. for starters here Mayweather never fought Lazcano! Baldomir ain't the easy road man, he's the welterweight champion of the world god damn it! Floyd will put on a clinic in this fight but make no mistake it won't be a hollow victory cause Gatti or Judah couldn't! The only guys he has to fight to secure his legacy would be DLH, Mosley, Wright would be a bonus & Hatton would cap things of.

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Jesus Chavez. Ive been away a while and my boxing expertise is rusty ;D. Exactly and If he beats Baldomir that will be his first big accomplishment in six or seven fights. and in mho he Wright, Mosley, and Oscar are too strong for him

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Yeah but Galaxy,it would depend on what you meant by legacy? As in,one of the greatest boxers of all time?Remember Floyd talks about being the greatest of all time or at least 1,and with his current resum,NO WAY! I can name a few active fighters who have better resumes than PBF-Barrerra,Morales,Pacman,Winky, etc They may not have their 0's in tact but they have had bigger fights ergo bigger wins than PBF!

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I;m not saying he's one of the greatest yet. But he's never been dominated thus far. Barrera got owned by Jones, Morales by Pacquiao, Pacquiao by Medgoen 3K Battery, Wright lost to a green Vargas IMO plus the loss to Vasques & Wrights record has only become solid of late. So to me yes there is still plenty of time & opportunity for Floyd to try to prove his greatness. Put DLH, Mosley, Wright & Hatton on Floyds record & it starts to get pretty hard to deny.

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Excellent points Boom boom,although saying that Baldo is a step up from his last few fights.

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That is true Big H but you have to agree that Hatton's resume can't even compare to PBFs.

As for the PBF-Baldo fight...I dont see why some people think it will be difficult for PBF. Baldomirs two main strengths in this fight are his size and toughness. This are going to be countered by Floyd's speed and endurance. Baldomir does not have one punch power and if PBF gets tagged with a good shot he's going to be out of the way before anymore hit. So Baldomir is NOT going to KO PBF. And can Baldomir outbox PBF? Hell no!

Floyd might beak a hand but he's going to win this fight by lopsided UD.


**By the way BoomBoom, I used to have a similar view of PBF that you have now. I suggest hitting up youtube and just watching him in action from fights through his career. He's the Einstein of boxing and his timing is absolutly incredible. Watch PBF vs. Gatti and then Baldomir vs. Gatti for comparison and keep in mind that it was a fresher Gatti that PBF humiliated.

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Bro,NO ONE is questioning his talent,how can you? It's his level of opposition that people are questioning,that's all. Talent wise,he is a marvel to watch.Yes and I totally agree Boom Boom,Floyd has fought fighters who let him fight his fight,in fact fighters who he can stand toe to toe with and win. Even Baldo is a light hitter.
Adam,to say Baldo is a level above Margarito is ridiculous considering Baldo sparred with Tony and said he is very powerful and that he would not fight him...Tony would beat him badly,it's just Baldo has been in the right place at the right time,he beat an unfocussed champ in Judah and beat a guy who has no business at 147,Gatti. If peeps don't give lil Floyd props for beating Gatti,then NO way should Baldo get much either!

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Dont really understand this post. To say Floyd hasn't fought any punchers is just stupid. Coralles is THE hardest hitting lightweight, Judah packs a serious punch and Gatti over the past ten years has been the ultimate blood and guts warrior who just loves to slug it out toe to toe, so how can you possibly say Floyd only faces light hitters.

Considering that Baldomir destroyed Gatti and made Zab dance I'd say he is a pretty strong guy too, at least as strong as Collazo, who roughed up Ricky Hatton big time.

Floyd does fight the best in the divisions, it's just that fickle fans clamour for him to constantly face their idea of whose best based on a boxers last performance.

Evryone was crying out for Hatton Mayweather, now nobody thinks Ricky has a chance, especially at 147lb. Margarito will be found out soon enough too.

Baldomir is a great choice of opponent for Floyd. I would rather see him take this fight than any other right now. Carlos hasn't lost for about 7 years or something, it's going to be a great fight and credit to Floyd to making it happen.

Well I wrote the post as simply as I could,adressing various points,if you are unable to understand it,that's your problem not mine as no one else has a problem understanding my posts.


Yes,remind me,which weight class did he fight Chico? And where does he fight now? And in that time,which punchers has he fought? Everyone knew Gatti was going to try to box,Zab hits quite hard,not hard at 147 and no where near as hard as a fully fledged WW.

Oh,remind me,who did Floyd fight at 140? At 140,like it or not,Hatton is the man. At 147,he has yet to fight a big strong WW,Baldo is a weak WW BUT DO give him credit for taking the fight,he is a step up from his last fights since Castillo in 02.

Was Zab Judah the best at 147 when Floyd fought him? He had the titles but can you say he could take the punch of a true WW? Was Sharmba the best?No to either and Baldo may have the belts but I would bet on in Margarito,Cintron,Quintana,Williams etc et all to give him a good beating.

Who did he fight at 140 that was the best............................

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Yeah but Galaxy,it would depend on what you meant by legacy? As in,one of the greatest boxers of all time?Remember Floyd talks about being the greatest of all time or at least 1,and with his current resum,NO WAY! I can name a few active fighters who have better resumes than PBF-Barrerra,Morales,Pacman,Winky, etc They may not have their 0's in tact but they have had bigger fights ergo bigger wins than PBF!

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I;m not saying he's one of the greatest yet. But he's never been dominated thus far. Barrera got owned by Jones, Morales by Pacquiao, Pacquiao by Medgoen 3K Battery, Wright lost to a green Vargas IMO plus the loss to Vasques & Wrights record has only become solid of late. So to me yes there is still plenty of time & opportunity for Floyd to try to prove his greatness. Put DLH, Mosley, Wright & Hatton on Floyds record & it starts to get pretty hard to deny.

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I won't go through every single one but like I said,they may have lost but does PBF have a fight equal to
-Mosley beating Oscar
-Winky schooling Tito and Shane
-Manny beating MAB and being the first to stop EM
-MAB beating Erik/Hamed etc etc

I agree with you Floyd has rnough time to make things right and increase his legacy but whether he actually wil or whether people are going to debate about him in 30 years time as the RJJ of this era remains to be seen,it is up to him.

Lets not fool ourselves with Baldizor, the guy is good but not great. What allows him to win? He comes down from 200lbs so he can beat up on smaller guys - jesus christ look at his head and torso it doesn't match the rest of him. PBF has no way of knocking the guy out because of his size, but because Baldy is so technically inferior it's an easy UD. Love what Floyd's capable of but when he talks about himself as a smart fighter he isn't just referring to how he fights, but who he fights. He's a selfish guy just like Roy Jones was with the opponents he picked (even tho I don't even begin to compare PBF to Jones Jr :)). The only question is whats it gonna to get this ugly mother fucker to open his eyes and see what kind of a joke he's letting his career turn into it. People get more anticipation and excitement out of waiting to hear who he fights next, then his actual fights. Why? Because he leaves the people who make him rich in the dark for so long, purposely of course and I couldn't tell you why he likes to play these little games. I only know one way to fight back, and thats to stop ordering Floyd Mayweather PPV's. Hell as much as I admire what goes on when he's in the ring, the facts still must be faced. He's not exciting enough to be on PPV ;)

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Well I wrote the post as simply as I could,adressing various points,if you are unable to understand it,that's your problem not mine as no one else has a problem understanding my posts.


Yes,remind me,which weight class did he fight Chico? And where does he fight now? And in that time,which punchers has he fought? Everyone knew Gatti was going to try to box,Zab hits quite hard,not hard at 147 and no where near as hard as a fully fledged WW.

Oh,remind me,who did Floyd fight at 140? At 140,like it or not,Hatton is the man. At 147,he has yet to fight a big strong WW,Baldo is a weak WW BUT DO give him credit for taking the fight,he is a step up from his last fights since Castillo in 02.

Was Zab Judah the best at 147 when Floyd fought him? He had the titles but can you say he could take the punch of a true WW? Was Sharmba the best?No to either and Baldo may have the belts but I would bet on in Margarito,Cintron,Quintana,Williams etc et all to give him a good beating.

Who did he fight at 140 that was the best............................

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I think if you ask Cory Spinks, Zab Judah hits quite hard! Especially seeing as Spinks beat Mayorga and Karmazin who are both really strong 154 lbs let alone 147lb.

Coralles is a natuarally bigger man than Floyd, he's chosen to stay where he is to maxamise his effectiveness but he could easily move upto to 147 if he wanted to, the guy is nearly 6 ft.

Castillo is another big puncher who Floyd handled, although I felt Castillo shaded the first fight.

The fact remains that there is not a fighter on the planet with as an impressive a resume as Floyd Mayweather. Who else boasts a better list of victims than Hernandez, Corrales, Chavez, Castillo, Gatti, Judah. When he adds Baldomir to that list come November it's fairly obvious why he is pound for pound number one on the planet.

Floyds career is progressing at just the right pace. Unify the welterweight division than get ready for a mega showdown with Oscar in May.

Bilbo,all points aside,I shall pick on one which shows your level of nut hugging to be astronomical:
Quote"The fact remains that there is not a fighter on the planet with as an impressive a resume as Floyd Mayweather. Who else boasts a better list of victims than Hernandez, Corrales, Chavez, Castillo, Gatti, Judah. When he adds Baldomir to that list come November it's fairly obvious why he is pound for pound number one on the planet."

You are joking right?
Winky wRIGHT-Mosley times 2,Tito,Soliman,robbed v Vargas,drew with JT

Oscar-Ruelas,Hernandez,JCC,Gonzalez,Whitaker,Quartey,Gat ti(beeter than Floyd),"beat" tito,Vargas,Mayorga

Marco Antonio Barrerra-Mckinnedy,Morales,Hamed,Tapia,Ayala,Juarez

Pacquiao-MAB,Erik Morales,Oscar Larios,Ledwaba(was rated at the time),JMM(draw,could have won,more technically gifted tan anyone Floyd has fought)

Eri Morales-Pacman,MAB,Chavez,Hernandez,Espades,In Jin Chi,Ayala,Mcollough,Kelley

Baldo has also gone through Zab and Gatti too.....

That is my main gripe about Floyd,he is awesome but he is NOT P4P number because you canot be based entirely off talent.....opposition counts too and all those guys I have been bothered to mention have fought as good and at times far far better level of competition than Floyd....

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Originally Posted by raleights

Lets not fool ourselves with Baldizor, the guy is good but not great. What allows him to win? He comes down from 200lbs so he can beat up on smaller guys - jesus christ look at his head and torso it doesn't match the rest of him. PBF has no way of knocking the guy out because of his size, but because Baldy is so technically inferior it's an easy UD. Love what Floyd's capable of but when he talks about himself as a smart fighter he isn't just referring to how he fights, but who he fights. He's a selfish guy just like Roy Jones was with the opponents he picked (even tho I don't even begin to compare PBF to Jones Jr :)). The only question is whats it gonna to get this ugly mother fucker to open his eyes and see what kind of a joke he's letting his career turn into it. People get more anticipation and excitement out of waiting to hear who he fights next, then his actual fights. Why? Because he leaves the people who make him rich in the dark for so long, purposely of course and I couldn't tell you why he likes to play these little games. I only know one way to fight back, and thats to stop ordering Floyd Mayweather PPV's. Hell as much as I admire what goes on when he's in the ring, the facts still must be faced. He's not exciting enough to be on PPV ;)

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harsh way of putting it but totally agree with the principle idea,that Floyd needs to fight more dangerous fighters(right?>?) ;D

I give baldi a good chance of beating PBF. Im not saying that he will defo beat PBF but imo he stands a good chance and should be given more respect.


(and p.s I agree with boom boom guy, all his posts make alot of sense).

Baldy is the Welterweight Champ. Why would he want to fight anyone else first.

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

Baldy is the Welterweight Champ. Why would he want to fight anyone else first.

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PBF's motto-"If it makes $$$,it makes sense"....I don't see any mention of titles there.....

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Originally Posted by 50rox

I give baldi a good chance of beating PBF. Im not saying that he will defo beat PBF but imo he stands a good chance and should be given more respect.


(and p.s I agree with boom boom guy, all his posts make alot of sense).

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Have a :coolclick: And welcome to the forum

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Originally Posted by El Phenomena

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Originally Posted by raleights

Lets not fool ourselves with Baldizor, the guy is good but not great. What allows him to win? He comes down from 200lbs so he can beat up on smaller guys - jesus christ look at his head and torso it doesn't match the rest of him. PBF has no way of knocking the guy out because of his size, but because Baldy is so technically inferior it's an easy UD. Love what Floyd's capable of but when he talks about himself as a smart fighter he isn't just referring to how he fights, but who he fights. He's a selfish guy just like Roy Jones was with the opponents he picked (even tho I don't even begin to compare PBF to Jones Jr :)). The only question is whats it gonna to get this ugly mother f***** to open his eyes and see what kind of a joke he's letting his career turn into it. People get more anticipation and excitement out of waiting to hear who he fights next, then his actual fights. Why? Because he leaves the people who make him rich in the dark for so long, purposely of course and I couldn't tell you why he likes to play these little games. I only know one way to fight back, and thats to stop ordering Floyd Mayweather PPV's. Hell as much as I admire what goes on when he's in the ring, the facts still must be faced. He's not exciting enough to be on PPV ;)

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harsh way of putting it but totally agree with the principle idea,that Floyd needs to fight more dangerous fighters(right?>?) ;D

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Yes more dangerous, and even moreso than that - people WE want to see him fight.

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Originally Posted by El Phenomena

Bilbo,all points aside,I shall pick on one which shows your level of nut hugging to be astronomical:
Quote"The fact remains that there is not a fighter on the planet with as an impressive a resume as Floyd Mayweather. Who else boasts a better list of victims than Hernandez, Corrales, Chavez, Castillo, Gatti, Judah. When he adds Baldomir to that list come November it's fairly obvious why he is pound for pound number one on the planet."

You are joking right?
Winky wRIGHT-Mosley times 2,Tito,Soliman,robbed v Vargas,drew with JT

Oscar-Ruelas,Hernandez,JCC,Gonzalez,Whitaker,Quartey,Gat ti(beeter than Floyd),"beat" tito,Vargas,Mayorga

Marco Antonio Barrerra-Mckinnedy,Morales,Hamed,Tapia,Ayala,Juarez

Pacquiao-MAB,Erik Morales,Oscar Larios,Ledwaba(was rated at the time),JMM(draw,could have won,more technically gifted tan anyone Floyd has fought)

Eri Morales-Pacman,MAB,Chavez,Hernandez,Espades,In Jin Chi,Ayala,Mcollough,Kelley

Baldo has also gone through Zab and Gatti too.....

That is my main gripe about Floyd,he is awesome but he is NOT P4P number because you canot be based entirely off talent.....opposition counts too and all those guys I have been bothered to mention have fought as good and at times far far better level of competition than Floyd....

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Yeah but all these guys have losses on thier records, Floyd has beaten everybody he has faced. Plus De La Hoya, Wright, Mosely, Morales, Barrera and all are all in their mid thirties Game. If you are going to compare you have to compare their careers at the same age as Floyd, 28/29 years.

Trust me by the time Floyd is 35 he will have a more impressive resume than all them.

He has beaten everyone he has faced because he has not fought as many opponents of the calibre of the guys I mentioned like Pacquio etc Anyway,you could be right,maybe when he gets to that age,he will have fought as many great fighters but for the moment,you were way of the mark,regardless of whom they have lost too,the guys I mentioned have bigger wins an if I'm correct,Manny and Erik are the same age as Floyd or younger as have more impressive resumes.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:

1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road.

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Well...atleast you stated one thing that's a fact in the above paragraph: All that came from someone that doesn't like him. ;)

He's not taking the easy road fighting Baldomir...he's taking the one that makes the most sense.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

He was great against Corrales, and Lazcano but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years.

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He's beaten several people in the last few years that were highly credited in the boxing world...for some reason people want to forget Gatti, Corley, & Judah.

That being said...I don't really rate them...but many people do.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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Odd...you'll give him credit for beating Baldomir...but you think that Floyd's being a pussy by fighting him.

Go in the bathroom...get a bar of soap & wash off that hate. ;D

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I remember another P4P fighter who took the smart fight instead of the easy one COUGH!! COUGH!!!
Sorry choking on the phrase....I think the last time that happened was Jones win over Ruiz....Wee we all know how that ended up after his next Smart Fight

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Originally Posted by El Phenomena

He has beaten everyone he has faced because he has not fought as many opponents of the calibre of the guys I mentioned like Pacquio etc Anyway,you could be right,maybe when he gets to that age,he will have fought as many great fighters but for the moment,you were way of the mark,regardless of whom they have lost too,the guys I mentioned have bigger wins an if I'm correct,Manny and Erik are the same age as Floyd or younger as have more impressive resumes.

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I think you are right about Manny and Eric being the same age but seeing as they have both lost to each other and to other fighters their records arn't as impressive.

I think considering that Floyd started out as a featherweight he ould have stayed their and cleaned up. It's more impressive to me that he has worked his way up through the ranks and has dominated much bigger men.

But I got to give you the Pacman, he has one hell of a resume and is probably my favourite non British fighter

What mindless crap people use to knock Floyd, I mean really... Tell me this, Boom boom... If Floyd wasn't signed to fight Baldomir, would he(Carlos) Not be on your list as one of the people Floyd should fight?? Give me a break..

No, Baldy needs to quit starving himself down to 147 and fight ppl his own size

Mayweather should be going after Hatton or Cotto before Mosley/ODLH comes around ;)

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

if he want to be the greatest p4p fighter in many peoples eyes includng those, like myself, who doent like him he must fight and beat:
1.Ricky Hatton
2.Miguel Cotto
3.Winky Wright
4. ODLH
5. Kassim Ouma
6. Margarito

ANY ONE OF THEM. But he chooses to be a Pu$$y and take the easy road. He was great against Corrales, and Chavez but he hasnt done Shat in the last couple of years. I do give him credit if he fights and beats Baldomir. IF. But you heard it from me first: Baldomir will win a decision over PBF. Thats right, a decision.

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You lost me at Ouma

PBF talks alot of S***. One day he says if don't make dollars, it don't make sense and the next day after they offer him the dollars he says that he doesn't want to fight guys who are not worthy. I guess Chop Chop, Bruseles and N'Dou had beaten so many top guys that they became unavoidable. PBF is a joke. He saw Zab outboxing him easily b4 he got caught and discouraged. I can't believe that people still believe the bull he says. ???