INO Lamon Brewster, Sam Peter & Calvin Brock will save the HW division!!!!

I don't see Oleg getting past Peter & especially Brewster! I do see Toney giving him problems & outworking Oleg to a UD! I can see Oleg KOing Klitchko & also Brewster KOing him again!
Not too sure exactly how Peter & Toney will turn out since age is catching up to Toney & he doesn't have much time left to be champ! Brewster is probably the most dangerous opponent in the heavyweight division right now! Brock is the up & comer that will be a major threat in 1-2 years!
Peter is huge & just needs to get more ring exp. in order to take the divsion, but when?

I give Brewster the best advantage over anyone in the heavies today!!!!

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I don't see Oleg getting past Peter & especially Brewster! I do see Toney giving him problems & outworking Oleg to a UD! I can see Oleg KOing Klitchko & also Brewster KOing him again!
Not too sure exactly how Peter & Toney will turn out since age is catching up to Toney & he doesn't have much time left to be champ! Brewster is probably the most dangerous opponent in the heavyweight division right now! Brock is the up & comer that will be a major threat in 1-2 years!
Peter is huge & just needs to get more ring exp. in order to take the divsion, but when?

I give Brewster the best advantage over anyone in the heavies today!!!!

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I don't see that happening....Wlad has it on lock down and if Valuev gains any boxing ability at all...lord only knows what might happen...but as for Brock...average power, good boxing ability and don't really know about his chin....I don't think peter has it(didn't he lose to Wlad?) and Brewster(Liakovich anyone?) I think that is reaching IMO....

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I don't see Oleg getting past Peter & especially Brewster! I do see Toney giving him problems & outworking Oleg to a UD! I can see Oleg KOing Klitchko & also Brewster KOing him again!
Not too sure exactly how Peter & Toney will turn out since age is catching up to Toney & he doesn't have much time left to be champ! Brewster is probably the most dangerous opponent in the heavyweight division right now! Brock is the up & comer that will be a major threat in 1-2 years!
Peter is huge & just needs to get more ring exp. in order to take the divsion, but when?

I give Brewster the best advantage over anyone in the heavies today!!!!

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Wlad has by far the best chance to unify the division. I'd be suprised if Brewster even won a world title again let alone dominate the division. He's got a great punch and a solid chin but the guy just can't box.

Wlad would easily UD him in a rematch.

I genuinely think Calvin Brock is now the biggest American hope. I don't think he's particularly special but he can punch and he has good fundamentals. He will become Americas great (maybe only?) hope of 2007

Peter almost KOed Wlad in their fight & Brewster did! Wlad has great boxing skill, no doubt, but he also has a glassy chin to a power puncher! He's not his brother & will not unify the belts: not hating just being realistic!!!!]

I also agree about Brewster having little boxing skill, but he always seems to pull it off becuz of his KO power! Calvin needs more exp & so does Peter, but look what Peter does when he punches, he destroys!!!!

None of these bums will ever unify anything. The fact that every HW belt has changed hands in the past 6 months ought to tell you about the consistency of the fighters in the division. They could all lose their next fight.

Take Brewster, for example--he lost his belt to Lyakhovich, who's not bad. But he already had WIDE UD losses to Clifford Etienne and some guy named Charles Shufford on his record. Sure he KO'd Wlad, but that just proves that Wlad ain't good enough to not lose to a bum. Brewster never beat anyone else of quality--the next best he did was against an aging Andrew Golota who had won only 4 of his last 9 fights.

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Peter almost KOed Wlad in their fight & Brewster did! Wlad has great boxing skill, no doubt, but he also has a glassy chin to a power puncher! He's not his brother & will not unify the belts: not hating just being realistic!!!!]

I also agree about Brewster having little boxing skill, but he always seems to pull it off becuz of his KO power! Calvin needs more exp & so does Peter, but look what Peter does when he punches, he destroys!!!!

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and Rahman Ko'd Lewis!! but that doesn't put him on par with him does it?....I think Wlad has Improved more than any other fighter in the HW division today!! Wlad is coming into his prime as we speak and I don't see lucky punches factoring in as much as they used to ......

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Take Brewster, for example--he lost his belt to Lyakhovich, who's not bad. But he already had WIDE UD losses to Clifford Etienne and some guy named Charles Shufford on his record. Sure he KO'd Wlad, but that just proves that Wlad ain't good enough to not lose to a bum. Brewster never beat anyone else of quality--the next best he did was against an aging Andrew Golota who had won only 4 of his last 9 fights.

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And he is Byrd's cousin... :tom:

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Take Brewster, for example--he lost his belt to Lyakhovich, who's not bad. But he already had WIDE UD losses to Clifford Etienne and some guy named Charles Shufford on his record. Sure he KO'd Wlad, but that just proves that Wlad ain't good enough to not lose to a bum. Brewster never beat anyone else of quality--the next best he did was against an aging Andrew Golota who had won only 4 of his last 9 fights.

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nice .....but Byrd ain't that shabby...did pretty good for a CW....:)

If any of them were going to "save the HW division" they would have done it by now, all bar Peter are over 30 aren't they?

What are they going to save the division from exactly?

Brock could do well....Im very interested to see what happens with Peter in against Toney....

Im a big Toney fan, but he is going to come unstuck before too long....I hope Toney schools Peter, but Toney just doesnt know how to look after his condition....

Interesting one for me...

I think Peter has a great chance of cleaning up the division, if he gets past Toney (i think he will)
I'd love to see a rematch against Wlad! He came close to taking Wlad out in the first fight, and theres every chance he could do it in the rematch!

Peter needs to improve his boxing skills, learn how to set up his power punches instead of just throwing them. I thought he looked very rudimentary against Wlad. But Wlad got lucky that Peter never actually touched his chin or else...

Oleg wont be around much longer. He was lucky that his style is not suited for Rahman.

Toney will probably win a title and retire. The only that has kept him in there is his defence. Since he doesnt know how to keep himself in shape he only has maybe 3 fights left.

I like Brewster but he can be outboxed. He at least makes the fights exciting one way or another.

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Peter needs to improve his boxing skills, learn how to set up his power punches instead of just throwing them. I thought he looked very rudimentary against Wlad. But Wlad got lucky that Peter never actually touched his chin or else...

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Good post & this should all turn into a great discussion. I'll semi sort of agree here.

Yes Peter needs to improve his abilities & needs to concentrate on more than power alone.

Honestly...I don't see it as Wlad getting lucky. Peter busted his melon several times. I really don't believe that chin is an issue with Wlad. If you watch his losses...the kid's got a hell of a chin...his issues are more stamina related. He just falls apart after not being able to close the distance or KO his opponent.

Also, in Wlad's defense...49 fights with 46 wins & 41 ko's aint that bad. He's lost only 3 times in 10 years...& again...I honestly believe that two of those were stamina related. Sanders did indeed blast him out. No denial there.

Back on the subject...Peter would be great if he were to be refined. He will need to either catch Toney or Toney will have to get stupid & try to man up with Peter. No way Peter outboxes Toney.

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Oleg wont be around much longer. He was lucky that his style is not suited for Rahman.

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Toney will probably win a title and retire. The only that has kept him in there is his defence. Since he doesnt know how to keep himself in shape he only has maybe 3 fights left.

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I like Brewster but he can be outboxed. He at least makes the fights exciting one way or another.

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Brewster is pitiful.

Brewster is exciting because you never know what Brewster is going to show up...but that's also very VERY bad too...I just don't dig on that. That's one of the main reasons I just don't like Toney...that & the fact that he's never beaten a decent heavy...period. He lost to Rahman...that sure as hell weren't a gotdam draw!

Anyways, back to Brewster. Anyone that can't get up for Meehan & Etienne is a joke. No matter what the judges though...Meehan handed Brewster a loss...that was a bullshit decision...that poor poor Garbage Man. Losing to Lyakhovich don't mean shit either, IWO. Lyakhovich will get blasted out soon enough.

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I think if he can keep boxing like he did against Brewster he stands a good chance against any of the current heavies. Wlad would pose the most problems for him. Wlad has the best boxing ability of the heavies and the power he brings with him would make for a troubled fight. Wlad/Lyakhovich would be one heavyweight fight I would be interested in.

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I think if he can keep boxing like he did against Brewster he stands a good chance against any of the current heavies. Wlad would pose the most problems for him. Wlad has the best boxing ability of the heavies and the power he brings with him would make for a troubled fight. Wlad/Lyakhovich would be one heavyweight fight I would be interested in.

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Agreed. Good points...but I just truly believe that with range...Klitschko controls them all around the board.

Almost all of what has been said is just about spot on, but i'll rejig them and put em back down as my own opinions :p.

Lamon Brewster lacks the quality and consistency to unfiy bugger all. He's getting on a bit, and he may get one more shot at one of the titles as a former holder, but I don't see anything from him suggesting that he will have any major impact on the division in the coming 24 months unless he picks up his game big time.

Sam Peter has really impressed me in the build up to the Toney clash, and he is saying the right things, and managing to rilw Toney up, though granted it is not too hard. He is also lead-handed, and if he can improve on his boxing skills, and move beyond being simply a puncher, then I don't see why he can't win a belt. But first, he needs to prove he's learnt from his defeat to Klitschko, which may just have been a case of too much too soon. He also has youth on his side, and is probably the best of this sorry bunch for the fans.

Calvin Brock is to boxing what maths is to schoolkids. He's a big part in the boxing scene, and granted is the best boxer among the bunch. However, the fans aren't taking to him, his charming mix of arrogance and belief that he is an exciting fighter is not endearing himself to anyone. There's also the rather interesting situation of him ditching his promoter hoping to get a better contract, and no-one sprinting forward to sign up this man who according to baxrec is the best heavyweight in the world. If he can win over the fans, and grab a world belt, would certainly be a player.

What the division really need is a crop of hw's who are more than just afraid to lose, but vitally, have to have the desire to win and to KO opponents. And for the love of the lord, some charisma among that mythical crop of young fighters would be wonderful. Anyone care to speculate on where this crop is currently growing?

As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Calvin Brock is to boxing what maths is to schoolkids. He's a big part in the boxing scene, and granted is the best boxer among the bunch. However, the fans aren't taking to him, his charming mix of arrogance and belief that he is an exciting fighter is not endearing himself to anyone. There's also the rather interesting situation of him ditching his promoter hoping to get a better contract, and no-one sprinting forward to sign up this man who according to baxrec is the best heavyweight in the world. If he can win over the fans, and grab a world belt, would certainly be a player.

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:coolclick: Good post over all.

I want to touch on the above though. Honestly, I like Brock. I do, really. He's a good guy with good abilities & people laugh at me when I say that he's fun to watch...but when in the hell have I ever given a shit about people laughing at me? ;D Brock is fun to watch...last fight ruled out, he is...but as we have all said before...he's just good at everything & not great at anything.

He's a really good good guy & I had a blast watching him tee off on Lawrence when he came close to my hometown, but the thing is...with the heavyweights...I think that everyone is looking at the road ahead of them & not the one that's underneath them.

Everyone pretty much see's that all roads end with Wlad & that there's a whopper of a stop sign there.

Unless something insanely shocking happens...Klitschko has a great shot at ruling the division now.

Honestly...& everyone will laugh about this one...I want to see Valuev come stateside & prove everyone wrong.

I would love to see the big guy actually do something. No shit. Call it a guilty pleasure syndrome...but that guy is going to bring viewers back to boxing. How could he not? Sure...you can say that he's just big & that he can't box...but he can box.

I want to see Valuev sell out the house. It would be great if he blasted Barrett out of the ring. Rahman couldn't do it, if he can...that's gotta bring him a shred of credibility.

What can I say, I'm a carnie worker at heart & the marketing ploy got me. ;D

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As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.

I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?

The savior of the division is not around yet...Wlad will hold the belts for a couple more years and retire...and unless Chazz Witherspoon develops some power someone is going to have to surprise us.

The deal with Lamon Brewster is that he's being trained by Buddy McGirt and Buddy is teaching LAME-ON to box more and not brawl so much....that's all well and good in theory but it just doesn't fit Brewster's traits...he has a good chin, he has heart and he hits relatively hard....he needs to bang more...more punches and less jabbing

Peter is still unpolished and unrefined as a boxer and that's why James Toney will whip his ass

James Toney is way too old, fat, and lacks the power to defeat Wlad or Lyakhovich or even Valuev for that matter

Wlad is going to beat Briggs and line up a fight with Maskaev to get another belt thought Don King apparently wants him to fight Sergei Lyakhovich instead of Briggs or so Sergei says.

Sergei is letting good fights pass him by and it's going to hurt him in the long run because his belt will be worthless unless he does something with it.

Valuev will continue to fight bums until he's forced into retierment by his age or injury or someone beats him....I see fights with Audley Harrison, Tony Thompson, and Kevin McBride or Andrew Golota in his future

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I don't see Oleg getting past Peter & especially Brewster! I do see Toney giving him problems & outworking Oleg to a UD! I can see Oleg KOing Klitchko & also Brewster KOing him again!
Not too sure exactly how Peter & Toney will turn out since age is catching up to Toney & he doesn't have much time left to be champ! Brewster is probably the most dangerous opponent in the heavyweight division right now! Brock is the up & comer that will be a major threat in 1-2 years!
Peter is huge & just needs to get more ring exp. in order to take the divsion, but when?

I give Brewster the best advantage over anyone in the heavies today!!!!

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WAAAAA ZUUUPPP!!! N.sideX4?

SAK TOWN IN THE HOUSE.....Hows everything up north? Down here in So. Cal. hotter then mutha' fwocker been between 94 & 101 for about 2 months now. :o
Which is fwocken to most people here, I'm justo hotter weather cuz of where I grew up (Mexicali, Baja California average of 105 up to 119)....

Anyway I see what you mean but I have to dissagree that Peter won't get passed Toney. As much as I hate tha 'crispy cream doughnut' eating mo' fo' hes still gonna beat Peter. Lamon won't be the same anymore.
Brock looks like he can do something but hes yet to be tested.

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As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.

I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?

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Oleg has become a US citizen, dont remember when but he has official become a citizen of the US.

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As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.

I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?

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Oleg Makaev is an American citizen who lives on Staten Island with his lovely wife and four kids whom he says are getting a "good" education. He also boasts his wife has a good job. He is soft spoken and speaks with a distinct accent which is not troublesome. Now that is All-American. Let me repeat ALL-AMERICAN!!!!

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As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.

I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?

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Oleg Makaev is an American citizen who lives on Staten Island with his lovely wife and four kids whom he says are getting a "good" education. He also boasts his wife has a good job. He is soft spoken and speaks with a distinct accent which is not troublesome. Now that is All-American. Let me repeat ALL-AMERICAN!!!!

Oleg wasn't born here so he's a NATURALIZED citizen...not a regular citizen, but his kids could be.

Now what he's doing is very American, coming here for a better life for his kids and all...that's All-American.

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As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.

I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?

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Oleg Makaev is an American citizen who lives on Staten Island with his lovely wife and four kids whom he says are getting a "good" education. He also boasts his wife has a good job. He is soft spoken and speaks with a distinct accent which is not troublesome. Now that is All-American. Let me repeat ALL-AMERICAN!!!!

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Yes I undestand the technocalities of him being a US citizen but you are completely deluding yourself if you think the US public are going to root for him as one of their own.

To the American public at large he is Russian, and yes I know he's from Khazakstan not Russia as well ;)

When Lennox Lewis decided to ditch Canada once he turned pro and reassumed his British identity the British public never accepted him even though he was by far the greatest heavyweight ever to represent our country.

When he fought Gary Mason, and even more so when he faced Bruno virtually the entire nation was behind his opponents.

The majority of sports fans, myself included are proud patriots and will never take to a foreigner over a born and bred Brit in a hundred years.

I can think of only one exception in the whole history of the world and that is Arnold Schwarzzenegger.

You can tell keep telling yourself that Oleg is an American citizen until you are blue in the face but you are never going to get the American public to ever think of him as anything other than Russian.

Am I right or am I right? ^-^

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Thanks Lyle,

now wait 10 miuntes till someone reminds me that he is a) An AMERICAN CITIZEN!!! and b) HE'S NOT FROM RUSSIA!!! ::**

Some people just don't get it ;D

You are right Bilbo, he is techniquely an American but will never be supported by the American boxing public. We are a fickle bunch, but you do need to be born a breed in order to received most of our full support. ;D

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You are right Bilbo, he is techniquely an American but will never be supported by the American boxing public. We are a fickle bunch, but you do need to be born a breed in order to received most of our full support. ;D

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Don't be apologetic, there is nothing wrong with good old fashioned Patriotism.

If we wern't patriots we would have let Germany take us over in World War 2, patriotism is the glue that binds a nation together and we should never give it up.

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You are right Bilbo, he is techniquely an American but will never be supported by the American boxing public. We are a fickle bunch, but you do need to be born a breed in order to received most of our full support. ;D

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Don't be apologetic, there is nothing wrong with good old fashioned Patriotism.

If we wern't patriots we would have let Germany take us over in World War 2, patriotism is the glue that binds a nation together and we should never give it up.

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Hold on Bilbo! Are we talking Hitler or Sauron here? Well, either way the Shire is safe, for now.................

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You are right Bilbo, he is techniquely an American but will never be supported by the American boxing public. We are a fickle bunch, but you do need to be born a breed in order to received most of our full support. ;D

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Don't be apologetic, there is nothing wrong with good old fashioned Patriotism.

If we wern't patriots we would have let Germany take us over in World War 2, patriotism is the glue that binds a nation together and we should never give it up.

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Hold on Bilbo! Are we talking Hitler or Sauron here? Well, either way the Shire is safe, for now.................

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Well they were both ruthless dictators with an evil bloodlust, but at least Sauron wasn't German so of the two I preferred him ;D

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Don't be apologetic, there is nothing wrong with good old fashioned Patriotism.

If we wern't patriots we would have let Germany take us over in World War 2, patriotism is the glue that binds a nation together and we should never give it up.

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Hold on Bilbo! Are we talking Hitler or Sauron here? Well, either way the Shire is safe, for now.................

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Well they were both ruthless dictators with an evil bloodlust, but at least Sauron wasn't German so of the two I preferred him ;D

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Im sure you have heard of the "boys from Brazil" BUT have you encountered the "boys from Mordor"? Hmmmm, i thought not. Sleep well my hairy toed hobbit!

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Oleg wasn't born here so he's a NATURALIZED citizen...not a regular citizen, but his kids could be.

Now what he's doing is very American, coming here for a better life for his kids and all...that's All-American.

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Agreed. A really good immigrant story; something like apple pie. ;)

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Honestly...& everyone will laugh about this one...I want to see Valuev come stateside & prove everyone wrong.

I would love to see the big guy actually do something. No S***. Call it a guilty pleasure syndrome...but that guy is going to bring viewers back to boxing. How could he not? Sure...you can say that he's just big & that he can't box...but he can box.

I want to see Valuev sell out the house. It would be great if he blasted Barrett out of the ring. Rahman couldn't do it, if he can...that's gotta bring him a shred of credibility.

What can I say, I'm a carnie worker at heart & the marketing ploy got me. ;D

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As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"

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Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.

I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?

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Oleg Makaev is an American citizen who lives on Staten Island with his lovely wife and four kids whom he says are getting a "good" education. He also boasts his wife has a good job. He is soft spoken and speaks with a distinct accent which is not troublesome. Now that is All-American. Let me repeat ALL-AMERICAN!!!!

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Yes I undestand the technocalities of him being a US citizen but you are completely deluding yourself if you think the US public are going to root for him as one of their own.

To the American public at large he is Russian, and yes I know he's from Khazakstan not Russia as well ;)

When Lennox Lewis decided to ditch Canada once he turned pro and reassumed his British identity the British public never accepted him even though he was by far the greatest heavyweight ever to represent our country.

When he fought Gary Mason, and even more so when he faced Bruno virtually the entire nation was behind his opponents.

The majority of sports fans, myself included are proud patriots and will never take to a foreigner over a born and bred Brit in a hundred years.

I can think of only one exception in the whole history of the world and that is Arnold Schwarzzenegger.

You can tell keep telling yourself that Oleg is an American citizen until you are blue in the face but you are never going to get the American public to ever think of him as anything other than Russian.

Am I right or am I right? ^-^

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You are not right, but only negative and pedantic. The American public will support Oleg Maskaev as long as he wins; it is my understanding you will not. As far as Scwarzenegger, he is an entertainment icon who appeals to the lowest common denominator intellectually, even in politics. Maskaev will retire financially set and with dignity. Perhaps THIS is what bothers you. You see, he is the warrior, you are not, only a sour pedantic "negativist." Go Maskaev, the All-American guy with his All-American family on Staten Island living the American dream!

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by TyBuff

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Lyakhovich will get blasted out soon enough.

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I think if he can keep boxing like he did against Brewster he stands a good chance against any of the current heavies. Wlad would pose the most problems for him. Wlad has the best boxing ability of the heavies and the power he brings with him would make for a troubled fight. Wlad/Lyakhovich would be one heavyweight fight I would be interested in.

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Agreed. Good points...but I just truly believe that with range...Klitschko controls them all around the board.

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Just because he has the most skills doesn't mean he is gonna be the master of all Heavyweights. Wacko wake up! He is carefully and wisely picking his opponents. And they will hype it as a huge fight. He could have fought Brewster a second time but he chose to fight Byrd instead and Lyakovich had a good strategy to beat Brewster and he used it very well but it was still a very close fight. And It wasn't because he didnt "get up" for Ettienne, have you seen that fight? Brewster injured his knee in the first round!! And he could barely walk the rest of the fight let alone plant and Ettienne took advantage of it, WHY do you thnk he wears that knee brace in the ring!? ::** The shufford fight was a fact of Brewster coming down from a very high weight because he had two fights in a row about a month apart to come down and he was drained.

And no matter what you say whether you call it luck or whatever, he BEAT WLADIMER KLITSCHKO!! No matter what you say!! Brewster WON THE FIGHT!! And Wladimer never tried to rematch him! ;)

Sergei is just a lot better then you wanted to give him credit for, but lowering the opponent of Brewster because you refuse top acknowledge how good he is won't change his win over Wladimer ;)

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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4

I don't see Oleg getting past Peter & especially Brewster! I do see Toney giving him problems & outworking Oleg to a UD! I can see Oleg KOing Klitchko & also Brewster KOing him again!
Not too sure exactly how Peter & Toney will turn out since age is catching up to Toney & he doesn't have much time left to be champ! Brewster is probably the most dangerous opponent in the heavyweight division right now! Brock is the up & comer that will be a major threat in 1-2 years!
Peter is huge & just needs to get more ring exp. in order to take the divsion, but when?

I give Brewster the best advantage over anyone in the heavies today!!!!

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I like Serguei Lyakhovich chances better then Brewsters ;) Peter can win it all in time