This fight needs to happen. PBF is busy with other business deals, Margarito is bitchin and Judah needs a win to get the respect he once almost had.
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This fight needs to happen. PBF is busy with other business deals, Margarito is bitchin and Judah needs a win to get the respect he once almost had.
i want to believe zab is on his way back up, i mean he fought 'some' good rounds against floydQuote:
Originally Posted by baller
so i have a feeling he'll be just fine and he'll get some more good wins before we see the last of him
this fight would be interesting. i woud probably tend to favor margarito, but it could go either way. its a must-win for judah, or else three straight losses. its a must win for margarito if he wants PBF. both with a lot to lose....id like to see the fight happen.
Is Judah still not under the ban?
I was wondering about that tooQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
whats he banned for?
The stunt he pulled during the riot deal against Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by body head banger
Read my signature below. (the 1st one ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by baller
I am fairly sure that Zab Judah is only suspended in the state of Nevada... Maybe they could do it somewhere else. I think Zab would school him personally.
Yeah bro I think it's only in Nevada, & I agree Judah puts on a clinic!Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
His career is over. 8)
He'll probably still fight but never again will he be anywhere near the level of fighters YOU people made him out to be.
I don't even like Judah but he will still be at a high enough level to deal with Margarito!Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
ummmmmm....................
was zab not the undisputed welterweight champion of the world like 3 fights ago?
thought so ;)
Just because Judah lost to two good fighters doesnt mean he is done
The majority of the states will uphold a ban put in place by another state. At least with medical they will, thought they usually did with other bans as well but could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I think Zab could outbox Margarito. I would certainly be rooting for him anyway, all this Margarito love on these boards has turned me against him,
Holy shit...was that just a Royal/The Game/El...errrrrrr phenomenal?Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Say it aint so. Sickem Game!
lol yeah it's actually Games love for Margarito that makes me dislike him :PQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
He keeps mocking me for my misguided belief in Joel Julio so I'm just desperate to see his two faves Margarito and Valero gunned down.
And when they are, I will be on here with a post entitled 'To Game/El Phenomena'
And inside it will just have this :fyou:
Awwwwwwwwww man dayeem!Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
You wouldn't throw an "I tole you so bitch!!!" in a brother's face would you?
Don't answer that...I already know the answer..."YOU GOTDAMN RIGHT I WOULD!" ;D
hmmmm so i guess its bad that i like margarito a little.I like zab judah a whole lot better tho.
The way I see it, the sole reason for being on a boxing discussion fight is to discuss and argue debate over which figters are truth and which fighters are turd.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
To be proved right and not to immediately come on here and gloat is to have sex and stop just before you are about to cum.
Hahahah,well my boys,Valero,Cotto and Margarito won't let me down! Especially Valero,so Bilbo,son,after you absolutely RIDICULOUS ASSUMPTION THAT jULIO WOULD BEAT fLOYD,you're going to be waiting a long time to get even with me!
Julio beat Floyd :-X :P ::** :o ;D ;D
Margarito: Judah would be an excellant match up. Judah has the chance to bounce back and Margarito has a big chance to put himself firmly in everybodies list of ones to watch...
There is the possibilty that Zab brings his A game and boxes smart to a decision or else there is the distinct possibility that Margarito clocks him one and we see a little bit of the funky chicken...
Good matchup...
Judah is no longer an elite fighter. But than again, Margarito has never been an elite fighter. Judah in 6.
Judah looks great for three or four rounds, like he always does, but if he can't get Margarito out in less than five or six rounds, and I doubt he would, then he'll break down mentally, like he always does, from Margarito's pressure.
Well said Ouma and Margarito is trained to put pressure,Zab can't take any form of pressure. TONy would beat him up to the body and no way Zab ko's Tony,if Tony can take shots from a full blown power puncher like Cintron,he can take Zab's easy. I think Cintron would KTFO Zab.
Join the club... Little Kiddies, Floyd haters and hype... that's what spring to mind when people talk about him at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
I don't hate on Floyd and I am not a little kiddie,I just see Margarito for what he is,the most dangerous man at 147. Of course there is some hype there and I don't buy into the most feared tag but that's Arums job,to sell his fighter and it's doing the job.Simple......Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Dont want to break your bubble or anything but Margarito is still only POTENTIALLY the real deal...stick him in there with zab and then he beats zab then okay, many more people will recognise him then....Quote:
Originally Posted by El Phenomena
Otherwise, Margarito is getting too many on his coat tails and Margarito isnt even staying all that busy...
He's potentially something, but might all amount to hot air....
Well he's fighting in December and like I said,I believe in him. It's nothing to do with Zab,that fight won't happen,Margarito just needs to beat some names and Zab is not one of them. Like I have said,Clottey,Collazo etc and all are more dangerous than Zab.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
It seems to me that most people only saw the Judah vs PBF fight from the 5th round on. My recollection tells me that before Zab gassed out, he was dominating the p4p king. Now if that doesn't say how good he really can be then I don't know what can.
That;s open to different interpretations. I saw it as Floyd just seeing what Zab had,he was being inactive,working out what he was going to do which gave Zab time to shine. As soon as Floyd decided to fight,he won easily imo. Also,that again points out Zab's flaws,he ws able to maintain it for 5 rounds only and his focus wandered later in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Still, a long break between fights. It really isnt staying busy.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Phenomena
Zab gave PBF his best fight for 3 years, few other fighters in the division could do the same....
Margarito does need to beat some names, at the pace he's going he might beat another name before he is 30...
If Floyd didn't hold the back of Zab's head in the first or second round not exactly sure which one, he would have gone down and who can forget when he got hit by that counter right that forced his glove onto the canvasand that should have been scored a knockdown. If it was any1 else, I don't think you or any1 else would be saying he was feeling him out. He was getting hit by a guy as quick and as good but not nearly as conditioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Phenomena
No,I don't let hatred of a fighter cloud my judgement,I believe I said the same thing as soon as the fight was finished,that Floyd was biding his time.
I respect your point of view though. It's a valid point.
Since the Neveda Boxing Commision is highly respected other commisions in the US tend to acknowledge the ban as to not step on the Nevedas toes. Hence, why Tyson had to fight outside the US when he was banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
I agree 100% and Zab is way overrated. Possibly most overrated!Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Margarito wouldn't be able to adjust, that's the difference. He only knows how to fight one way and he's wide open all day. Any world class boxer would beat him imo... And you saying Cintron would KTFO of Judah is almost laughable.. I mean sure it could happen, but did you see what David Estrada nearly did to Cintron?? He's nothing special at all Judah would kill him.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Phenomena
Mosley looked avergae against Estrada too and once Cintron landed once,cleanly,he would either take Judah's heart or KO him. You make Judah out to be some kind of slick puncher boxer,when he is not. He is sloppy,lacks focus,heart and desire and cannot go to the trenches.
Margarito can work the body,jab well,and is just pure pressure. What would Tony need to adjust to with Judah?How would Judah kill him,who has Judah ever killed?Any world class boxer,Judah is not world class....
You let your judgement get clouded by hate for a fighter,it makes your points weak.