Evander victorious...................................So what? ? ? ? ? ?

OK......Now what?

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What exactly does this victory mean?

It doesnt mean a damn thing in my book.

it means he can retire with a win

It means that Jeremy Bates will have a chance to redeem himself against Audley Harrison soon.

For Evander, well maybe with America's last line of defense breached last week, he could be the first counter attack!

Go Evander!!!

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It means that Jeremy Bates will have a chance to redeem himself against Audley Harrison soon.

For Evander, well maybe with America's last line of defense breached last week, he could be the first counter attack!

Go Evander!!!

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LOL....Evander vs Nicolay

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It means that Jeremy Bates will have a chance to redeem himself against Audley Harrison soon.

For Evander, well maybe with America's last line of defense breached last week, he could be the first counter attack!

Go Evander!!!

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LOL....Evander vs Nicolay

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Thing is what you are saying is actually what will probably happen.

I think of all the champions he could go in with, Valuev is the most beatable.

I reckon there is about a 75% chance of this fight happening providing Valuev beats Barret.

And if Barret wins there is probably a 75% that he'll fight Holyfield too.

Against either of them Evander has a chance, against the others he will get hurt.

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It means that Jeremy Bates will have a chance to redeem himself against Audley Harrison soon.

For Evander, well maybe with America's last line of defense breached last week, he could be the first counter attack!

Go Evander!!!

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LOL....Evander vs Nicolay

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Thing is what you are saying is actually what will probably happen.

I think of all the champions he could go in with, Valuev is the most beatable.

I reckon there is about a 75% chance of this fight happening providing Valuev beats Barret.

And if Barret wins there is probably a 75% that he'll fight Holyfield too.

Against either of them Evander has a chance, against the others he will get hurt.

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Against somebody with a pulse he will get hurt. I believe at this point he is a tragedy waiting to happen.

I've been a life long Holy fan, and the last several years have been pretty painful watching him go from a phenomenal fighter to a can. I almost didn't watch tonight, I was glad to see him looking good, but how long can he fight with that energy...6 rounds...8 rounds? If he really was hurt over the past years than maybe he still has something in the tank. I'd really rather he just retire and let me wonder what if than have my worst fears confirmed and see him embarrased again.

Evander looked pretty good tonight. I think he would be able to mix it up with Oleg Maskaev and pull out a win , Evander matches up well in this division.

ahah well i just read an article that just came out a hour ago saying Holyfields aiming to be the only 5time HW champ???? he already is the only 4 time HW champ ever. did anyone even see this fight? they said the guy was a full time insurance salesman?????

anyways RAAAAAAAWBERT my bro! roll up the 15north and meet me at the thomas and mack center i need a wingman for all them pinays & latinas, and oh yeah u know i got u a HOOTERS bro hollaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar

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It means that Jeremy Bates will have a chance to redeem himself against Audley Harrison soon.

For Evander, well maybe with America's last line of defense breached last week, he could be the first counter attack!

Go Evander!!!

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LOL....Evander vs Nicolay

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Thing is what you are saying is actually what will probably happen.

I think of all the champions he could go in with, Valuev is the most beatable.

I reckon there is about a 75% chance of this fight happening providing Valuev beats Barret.

And if Barret wins there is probably a 75% that he'll fight Holyfield too.

Against either of them Evander has a chance, against the others he will get hurt.

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i think the only glimmer of hope and thats being VERY optamistic] is against maskaev

Just watched the fight now and, yes, Holyfield looked much sharper than in recent fights. He actually threw punches in bunches and his movement was sharp....

Of course Bates is a mere journeyman, If Evander must continue then I think he should see out the year with 4 more confidence boosters before a possible step up...

Evander being Evander will probably go for a title shot too soon and it though he might look sharp for 4 rounds, will more than likely begin to fade.......he should stay well away from Wlad, It could be very messy...

Well he threw more punches. That's reassuring. He was very accurate but he fought an inferior opponent. I doubt Evander can pull out a fight where the opposition is top ten and throw punches back. Bates was a punching bag. He landed maybe 5 punches in 2 rounds. He had no offence whatsoever.

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Well he threw more punches. That's reassuring. He was very accurate but he fought an inferior opponent. I doubt Evander can pull out a fight where the opposition is top ten and throw punches back. Bates was a punching bag. He landed maybe 5 punches in 2 rounds. He had no offence whatsoever.

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Yeah I noticed Bates was somewhat star struck, Holyfield wanted Bates more active so he could counter, Holyfield had to be patient. I thought Evander did good overall considering a 2 year layoff. I think his chances are pretty good getting another belt, I would like to see Evander get more work . maybe knockout a couple more guys before the years end . maybe that Gutierrez guy Tua fought next.

Evander is really going to get hurt if he fites top 10 material IMO. I hope he takes this win and just calls it a day.

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Evander is really going to get hurt if he fites top 10 material IMO. I hope he takes this win and just calls it a day.

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Evander is really going to get hurt if he fites top 10 material IMO. I hope he takes this win and just calls it a day.

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Unfortunately there is no chance of that. He is going to take this victory and say that it shows he still belongs in the ring. Maybe against that level of fighter but not much higher up.

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Evander is really going to get hurt if he fites top 10 material IMO. I hope he takes this win and just calls it a day.

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Top 10 material in the Heavyweight division is shit at best ! Evander would beat anyone in the Top Ten, now that Evander Shoulder has been operated on and is all healed up, I think he owns this weak ass division. No disrespect to the the Current Heavyweight Champions, they done a fantastic job getting to the top and winning titles . But Evander takes them all down. Including Wlad, and I think Wlad is the Best out there right now. I think Holyfield would stop Maskeav , and Valuve.. The WBO Champion Serguei Lyakhovich and Wladimir Klitschko would be the only real threats .

He still needs a few fights to shake of 2 years of rust , maybe Gutierrez and the Brian Minto by the end of the year to work on things and also to get the buzz going , and then he will be ready for a Calvin Brock in March 07 , then Maskeav or Valuve in the Summer of 07 . ;)

i think the only shot he has is to try and outbox a guy like maskaev. wlad is too big and strong for a 43 yr old holyfield. i would like to see him take on another journeyman, but one we know.

Maybe Mesi's claim to fame could be that the first to beat him was the great Holyfield.

Holyfield's left shoulder has been operated on three times to repair rotator cuff damage. It didn't heal properly, and that affected his ability to jab and to land strong combinations in previous fights.

It looks like Holyfield's next fight is with Samil Sam (26-3, 15 KOs) who is ranked No. 5 by the WBC ,by the end of the year. the fight will be overseas .

Yep, and get this--it's "almost certainly" ON PPV!!! :doh:

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According to the Associated Press, 43 year-old Evander Holyfield will try to use the same stepping stone that 37 year-old Oleg Maskaev walked through on his way to 25% of the heavyweight championship. The Associated Press says Hoyfield, who just beat Jeremy Bates in Dallas on Friday, will fight next against Sinan Samil ("Triple S") Sam, a German-based Turk with a 26-3 record, who somehow is still rated fifth by the WBC after losing to Maskaev in a WBC eliminator. "It'll likely be in November and almost certainly on pay-per-view," wrote the Associated Press.
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