Debate? Let loose! What fighters do you hate the most

I would have to go in this order.

1. Julio Cesar Chavez- He was one of the best ever but the biggest fights of his career (Whitaker, Taylor) he looked average. To his credit he was given a gift KO from Richard Steele
2. Oscar De La Hoya- I don't hate him as much as bilbo but winning 9 out of 12 rounds in a fight that you landed 50 less punches than your opponent is all star power. That star power gave him 3 fights (Whitaker, Quartey, Sturm). To his credit he did get screwed in the second Mosley fight.
3. Riddick Bowe- He was just an asshole, and punching a guy at a press conference proved it.
4. Lennox Lewis- Talk about being arrogant, this guy takes the cake.
5 John Ruiz- No comment.

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

I would have to go in this order.

1. Julio Cesar Chavez- He was one of the best ever but the biggest fights of his career (Whitaker, Taylor) he looked average. To his credit he was given a gift KO from Richard Steele
2. Oscar De La Hoya- I don't hate him as much as bilbo but winning 9 out of 12 rounds in a fight that you landed 50 less punches than your opponent is all star power. That star power gave him 3 fights (Whitaker, Quartey, Sturm). To his credit he did get screwed in the second Mosley fight.
3. Riddick Bowe- He was just an asshole, and punching a guy at a press conference proved it.
4. Lennox Lewis- Talk about being arrogant, this guy takes the cake.
5 John Ruiz- No comment.

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1. Julio Cesar Chavez-how can you hate a guy for winning?The dude couldnt speak english so if he was ever running his mouth i wouldnt know.
2. Oscar De La Hoya-yea, i dont care for him either. only watch him in the hopes he'll get ktfo.
3. Riddick Bowe-asshole? yes. Damn good boxer for a minute though.
4. Lennox Lewis-arrogant? good. what did you want? "gee guys, im not sure if i can win this one......."
5. John Ruiz-hate?ummmm, is there a much much stonger word for hate? something that implies: hatred with the force of a nuclear bomb laced with anthrax, nailed to a cross, covered in honey, ants eat his flesh, pour gas on him, stick dynamite up his a$$ and blow him up (and then have special powers to bring him back from the dead and do it again)? what word would that be?

well obviously it's the Goldenboy for me, but only because of his saintly personifation. If he got got caught with a hooker or snorting cocaine then I'd like him a whole lot more but I get the feeling the only addiction he has is to money.

Danny Williams annoys me because he is such a complete and utter bum.

And Amir Khan just needs a smack.

Zab Judah - Cant stand his attitude


Floyd Mayweather - He hasnt fought the guys he should have by now and his arrogance annoys me

Jorge Barrios - Ive seen him at weigh ins etc and he tries to intimidate opponents and id just like to see him get hurt again like he was against Freitas

Michael Gomez - A guy I paid to see get K.o'd . Reminds me of a bully that quits when he faces resistance

James Toney - I dont really hate James Toney infact I rate him very highly but id like to see his face when he loses

1. joel casamayor- when things arent going his way he starts fouling.
2. floyd jr- so far he's not willing to prove how great he says he is.
3. rahman- i hate that he stood right in front of maskaev the whole fight. i also hate that he didnt try to hold in the 12th!
4. evander holyfield- i hate that he insists on going out on a stretcher. i love him to much to see that happen.
5. james toney- i hate that he doesnt think he has to train hard to win. i wish he would be in better shape and become undisputed hvywt champ.

You got to hate Ray Leonard... >:mad But even he was a saint next to a Panama Lewis or Luis Resto

Followed by Hector Camacho, his only redable feature was knocking out the above Leonard with a jab!

#3: Well Frank Bruno always bugged me; not least because I told all my school mates he was going to hammer Whitherspoon, and he made me look stupid :-[

#4: Bobby Frankham; Thug who beat Zab Zab to attacking the ref

#5: Tyrell Biggs: The first heavyweight who I was sold on the hype, and he failed to produce

#6: Mark Breland: The next big thing, that made me look stupid as I hyped him.

#7: Mike Tyson: Should of been the next Ali; instead turned into a Liston

#8: Roy Jones Jr: Should be up there with Robinson, instead choose to avoid the superfights that would put him at that level.

#9: Tony Ayala Jr: Should of been a legend, turned out to be scum

#10: Tim Whitherspoon: Ruined by drugs

never really hated anyone but I dislike all the arrogant fighters, the ones that can't police themselves enough to act proper in public. Don't get me wrong anyone that is great at this sport have some arrogance , but I respect the guys that can keep it in check .

Top annoying fighters for me are

Jab Judah
Mayweather
Roy Jones JR
Prince Naseem
Etc.

I would always enjoy watching a good beat down of these a** clowns . Mayweather and Jones are tremendous fighters , no disrespect to their skills !

Not sure if this is dumb but who is EXT?

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Not sure if this is dumb but who is EXT?

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my bad, i ment Etc.

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Not sure if this is dumb but who is EXT?

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my bad, i ment Etc.

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And to think I wasted about 15 minutes racking my brains to think who you meant!

Ray Leonard. F**K him and all his gift decisions. And his fake a** good guy attitude.

Riddick Bowe. Duck a guy that beats you, then throw the belt in the garbage because you're too scared to fight him. What a bi**h!

right this is hard, cos i respect and or like these fighters for certain reasons and hate em for others, i mean i respect almost all boxers, except ruiz and few others :P

1= most hated

1:Ruiz CUNT. nuff said
2:Ricardo Mayorga.. easy to hate because hes a tit and arrogant, but yet he's extremely entertaining.
3:Fernando vargas: equally as full of himself and arrogant and too much showmanship, but yet he was stylish and has never ducked a fighter, which penultimately has made jim a punching bag for the best out there.
4: Antonio Tarver:He should never have gotten the rematch with roy jones in the first place becuase roy won, but yet didnt look himself so the match was demanded, but at first i hated his cockyness and showmanship but then i started to like it because he was funny, and i sometimes like the bad guys man theyr entertainin.
5:Antonio Margarito: He's very skilled but one day he'll realise that no one is ducking him, hes not feared and he is unproven, you want the best he has to work for it.

;) Body head's Hitlist ;)

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right this is hard, cos i respect and or like these fighters for certain reasons and hate em for others, i mean i respect almost all boxers, except ruiz and few others :P

1= most hated

1:Ruiz c***. nuff said
2:Ricardo Mayorga.. easy to hate because hes a tit and arrogant, but yet he's extremely entertaining.
3:Fernando vargas: equally as full of himself and arrogant and too much showmanship, but yet he was stylish and has never ducked a fighter, which penultimately has made jim a punching bag for the best out there.
4: Antonio Tarver:He should never have gotten the rematch with roy jones in the first place becuase roy won, but yet didnt look himself so the match was demanded, but at first i hated his cockyness and showmanship but then i started to like it because he was funny, and i sometimes like the bad guys man theyr entertainin.
5:Antonio Margarito: He's very skilled but one day he'll realise that no one is ducking him, hes not feared and he is unproven, you want the best he has to work for it.

;) Body head's Hitlist ;)

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I actually feel a bit sorry for Ruiz. I mean it's not his fault he's S***, he's maximised his abilities porobably more than any other fighter.

He gets no sympathy at all from anyone even when he robbed against Valuev.

I know he ain't very good but to hate him for being crap just seems mean.

As Kryton once said of Rimmer, 'John Ruiz is guilty of nothing more than of being John Ruiz, that is his crime, it is also his punishment'.

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Originally Posted by body head banger

right this is hard, cos i respect and or like these fighters for certain reasons and hate em for others, i mean i respect almost all boxers, except ruiz and few others :P

1= most hated

1:Ruiz c***. nuff said
2:Ricardo Mayorga.. easy to hate because hes a tit and arrogant, but yet he's extremely entertaining.
3:Fernando vargas: equally as full of himself and arrogant and too much showmanship, but yet he was stylish and has never ducked a fighter, which penultimately has made jim a punching bag for the best out there.
4: Antonio Tarver:He should never have gotten the rematch with roy jones in the first place becuase roy won, but yet didnt look himself so the match was demanded, but at first i hated his cockyness and showmanship but then i started to like it because he was funny, and i sometimes like the bad guys man theyr entertainin.
5:Antonio Margarito: He's very skilled but one day he'll realise that no one is ducking him, hes not feared and he is unproven, you want the best he has to work for it.

;) Body head's Hitlist ;)

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I actually feel a bit sorry for Ruiz. I mean it's not his fault he's S***, he's maximised his abilities porobably more than any other fighter.

He gets no sympathy at all from anyone even when he robbed against Valuev.

I know he ain't very good but to hate him for being crap just seems mean.

As Kryton once said of Rimmer, 'John Ruiz is guilty of nothing more than of being John Ruiz, that is his crime, it is also his punishment'.

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lol yeh that quote is awesome...n true. its not his ablities i mean hes got some good wins on his record

its just he's so arrogant and he just cant back up.

did u see him turnin up the the ruiz-roy jones press conference dressed as a pimp with a cigar sayin " wheres my bitch wheres my ho" adn then got his ass beat!! :P

My list is a tuffy...

I hate Floyd Mayweather jr as a person...I think he's a turd stain close to the edge of the drain...but he's a beautiful boxer & one of my most favorite fighters of all time.

Same thing goes for James "Fat Ass" Toney...I think he's shit as a person...but it's quite possible that he could be one of the greatest fighters of his/my time.

All the way around...I can truly say that I hate Tarver, Mayorga, Joppy, & Mora. Those cocksmokers talk waaaaaaaaaaay too much & NEVER back it up.

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My list is a tuffy...

I hate Floyd Mayweather jr as a person...I think he's a turd stain close to the edge of the drain...but he's a beautiful boxer & one of my most favorite fighters of all time.

Same thing goes for James "Fat a**" Toney...I think he's S*** as a person...but it's quite possible that he could be one of the greatest fighters of his/my time.

All the way around...I can truly say that I hate Tarver, Mayorga, Joppy, & Mora. Those cocksmokers talk waaaaaaaaaaay too much & NEVER back it up.

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Agree with all but Toney, I find him to be entertaining. What bugs me about Mayweather is the way he always talks about making smart business decisions and his horendously overused dollars and sense line.. I mean does he think that anyone who isn't an idiot like he is wouldn't understand this?? Hmmm lets see, Ill take the fighter who I will have the greatest chance of looking dominant against, and umm, what else... hmm. Oh yeah, probably the biggest payday too.. Yep, that's it. Im such a schrewd businessman.

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Ray Leonard. F**K him and all his gift decisions. And his fake a** good guy attitude.

Riddick Bowe. Duck a guy that beats you, then throw the belt in the garbage because you're too scared to fight him. What a bi**h!

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You make a good point on there !

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Originally Posted by body head banger

right this is hard, cos i respect and or like these fighters for certain reasons and hate em for others, i mean i respect almost all boxers, except ruiz and few others :P

1= most hated

1:Ruiz c***. nuff said
2:Ricardo Mayorga.. easy to hate because hes a tit and arrogant, but yet he's extremely entertaining.
3:Fernando vargas: equally as full of himself and arrogant and too much showmanship, but yet he was stylish and has never ducked a fighter, which penultimately has made jim a punching bag for the best out there.
4: Antonio Tarver:He should never have gotten the rematch with roy jones in the first place becuase roy won, but yet didnt look himself so the match was demanded, but at first i hated his cockyness and showmanship but then i started to like it because he was funny, and i sometimes like the bad guys man theyr entertainin.
5:Antonio Margarito: He's very skilled but one day he'll realise that no one is ducking him, hes not feared and he is unproven, you want the best he has to work for it.

;) Body head's Hitlist ;)

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I actually feel a bit sorry for Ruiz. I mean it's not his fault he's S***, he's maximised his abilities porobably more than any other fighter.

He gets no sympathy at all from anyone even when he robbed against Valuev.

I know he ain't very good but to hate him for being crap just seems mean.

As Kryton once said of Rimmer, 'John Ruiz is guilty of nothing more than of being John Ruiz, that is his crime, it is also his punishment'.

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I feel the same way, guilty as hell for hating Ruiz, but i do ! LMFAO.. CC click for the Kryton quote. love it !

The only guy I really hate in boxing is Ray Leonard. Cant stand his attitude the way he fights and to top it off that gift decision he got against Hagler. All makes him my most hated boxer.

I have hated Mayorga ever since the S*** he chatted about DeLa Hoya. Sergio Mora i actaully despise. Never liked Lennox Lewis he used to bore the pants of me(And im a Brit).I absolutely HATED Prince Nazeem and am starting to feel the same about Kahn.Judah annoys me also. Im clutching at straws now.

Hate is such a harsh word, but I do hate these 2 at #1.

My #1 spot is a 2 way tie between a) NAZ & b) ZAB. those where the true definition of all talk and no action action. Ran & run their mouths like a Sean John jogging suit. But when it's go time they fold like a chair.

#2 The Surgeon for destroying my hero on that night in 1994. Need I say more. :'( (Shet! now I'm gonna make myself suffer and watch the fight before I go to bed :( )

#3 MAB it's nothing personal at the begining of the MAB vs. ERIK deal you just had to choose a side and I did I liked ERIKS style more then MAB plus ERIK grew up in Tijuana so I was more familiar with his surroundings. From MAB vs. ERIK I, I vowed to dislike MAB. (Except for the NAZ fight in which I rooted for him ;) )

# 4 Mosley just for beating ODLH officially twice (in reality once) I just couldnt stomach the fact that he had beating the pride & joy of East L.A.

# 5 is a bit strange...OK I dislike him but I also feel bad for him at times. Fernando Vargas..... Let me explain before the Tito fight I disliked him and wanted him to get ktfo. Then when it happend how it happend as I saw him fall face forward my heart wen't out to him cuz I dindn't want to see him seriously hurt. Then he ran his mouth at ODLH and I disliked him again, then they showed him in his stool all groggy and this look in his face like what happend and I felt bad. Then I was nuetral with him then he looses to Mosley in the fashion that he lost the 2nd fight to him and I feel bad. IMO they fed him to the lions it was too early in his career to face fighters like Tito & ODLH.

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Hate is such a harsh word, but I do hate these 2 at #1.

My #1 spot is a 2 way tie between a) NAZ & b) ZAB. those where the true definition of all talk and no action action. Ran & run their mouths like a Sean John jogging suit. But when it's go time they fold like a chair.

#2 The Surgeon for destroying my hero on that night in 1994. Need I say more. :'( (Shet! now I'm gonna make myself suffer and watch the fight before I go to bed :( )

#3 MAB it's nothing personal at the begining of the MAB vs. ERIK deal you just had to choose a side and I did I liked ERIKS style more then MAB plus ERIK grew up in Tijuana so I was more familiar with his surroundings. From MAB vs. ERIK I, I vowed to dislike MAB. (Except for the NAZ fight in which I rooted for him ;) )

# 4 Mosley just for beating ODLH officially twice (in reality once) I just couldnt stomach the fact that he had beating the pride & joy of East L.A.

# 5 is a bit strange...OK I dislike him but I also feel bad for him at times. Fernando Vargas..... Let me explain before the Tito fight I disliked him and wanted him to get ktfo. Then when it happend how it happend as I saw him fall face forward my heart wen't out to him cuz I dindn't want to see him seriously hurt. Then he ran his mouth at ODLH and I disliked him again, then they showed him in his stool all groggy and this look in his face like what happend and I felt bad. Then I was nuetral with him then he looses to Vargas in the fashion that he lost the 2nd fight to him and I feel bad. IMO they fed him to the lions it was too early in his career to face fighters like Tito & ODLH.

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You forgot Juan Laporte and Pernel Whittaker on your #2 slot..... I guess.

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Hate is such a harsh word, but I do hate these 2 at #1.

My #1 spot is a 2 way tie between a) NAZ & b) ZAB. those where the true definition of all talk and no action action. Ran & run their mouths like a Sean John jogging suit. But when it's go time they fold like a chair.

#2 The Surgeon for destroying my hero on that night in 1994. Need I say more. :'( (Shet! now I'm gonna make myself suffer and watch the fight before I go to bed :( ) *Juan Laporte, Pernell (for p4pking) / Pernell (for Starr & P.G.H. Angel eyes) / Miguel Ruiz (for BritKid)
Feel better now guys? ? ? ?


#3 MAB it's nothing personal at the begining of the MAB vs. ERIK deal you just had to choose a side and I did I liked ERIKS style more then MAB plus ERIK grew up in Tijuana so I was more familiar with his surroundings. From MAB vs. ERIK I, I vowed to dislike MAB. (Except for the NAZ fight in which I rooted for him ;) )

# 4 Mosley just for beating ODLH officially twice (in reality once) I just couldnt stomach the fact that he had beating the pride & joy of East L.A.

# 5 is a bit strange...OK I dislike him but I also feel bad for him at times. Fernando Vargas..... Let me explain before the Tito fight I disliked him and wanted him to get ktfo. Then when it happend how it happend as I saw him fall face forward my heart wen't out to him cuz I dindn't want to see him seriously hurt. Then he ran his mouth at ODLH and I disliked him again, then they showed him in his stool all groggy and this look in his face like what happend and I felt bad. Then I was nuetral with him then he looses to Vargas in the fashion that he lost the 2nd fight to him and I feel bad. IMO they fed him to the lions it was too early in his career to face fighters like Tito & ODLH.

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You forgot Juan Laporte and Pernel Whittaker on your #2 slot..... I guess.

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If it helps you sleep better at night then here you go. :) (see above)

Any boxer under Don King is tied for number 1.

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Any boxer under Don King is tied for number 1.

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Your hatred is strong and vast then? ;)

JUDAH for his attitude,PBF for the same reason and for thinking he can be like Oscar and call the shots,Oscar earned it,Floyd hasnt oh and his DUMBASS lines. Someone go to boxingtalk.com and check out the interview,he says that even if Tony beats Williams,that's not good enough yet Williams is better than anyone he has fought for 4 years! >:mad His constant warblings about smart business decisions piss me off,simply because he is in no way shape or form smart.Great fighters,a total ass of a person.

Antonio tarver for talking so much s**t about how he's great and blah blah blah!!! It was so freaking great to see him basically dismantled by hopkins, the "legend killer" killed by a true legend, effin awesome.

Tarver, Ruiz, Naz, Toney, Malinaggi, Spinks, Judah, etc

only gift decision i think ray leonard got is against tommy hearns 2nd fight. anyways fighters i hate

mike tyson
tim witherspoon because he could of been good messed hes life up
renaldo snipes see what he tried to do larry holmes after fight he tried to hit him lol snipes is sore loser
trevor berbick hate that guy
john ruiz
andrew golota
prince naseem
audley fraudley
danny williams because he thinks its more of eating contest than boxing match
james toney now days spends more time talking shit than he does training

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Tarver, Ruiz, Naz, Toney, Malinaggi, Spinks, Judah, etc

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I pretty much agree with this list.

1. Suga ray L.-THEIF
2. John Ruiz-Must share a branch with number 3 somewhere on the family tree.
3.lennox lewis-ZzzZzzzzZZzzzZzzzZZzzZZzz
4.PBF-All talk, no action, put that so called "legacy" on the line beyaatch. The fighters who have the most brilliant "legacys" are the ones that were never worried about getting one. If your a legend, it happens.

Zab and Tarver cause A) they're boring to watch fight, B)they're annoying

Wlad, not really any good reason, I just dislike both of the Klitschko's. I always disliked them, and the really obsessive shrine in the closet sevenduece type Klitschko fans are highly annoying.

Never really liked ODLH.

Derrick Gainer (cue Starr defending Gainer) and John Ruiz are so boring that it induces hate.

I am getting a little tired of Floyd outside the ring but I love his style inside it so I can't really include him even if he is annoying.

A while back I would have included Taylor, but I'm starting to respect him more and more, signing the fight with Winky after the two Hopkins fights was what boxing should be about, big fights, so I can't hate him anymore.

Agreed Oumafan , Its hard to hate Taylor when the mans such a likeable individual and seeks the big fights .

Hes not given credit cuz hasnt won the big fights in convincing fashion but who looks good against B- Hop and Wright ? They dont come much more ring crafty than those two and Taylor emerged from both as champ . so he cant be bad also . He isnt the finished article yet but hes is still beating the bst around ( I thought he beat Winky but lost to B-hop . ) Those guys could have been called the p4p number 1 when Taylor fought them so I think its about time Taylor got some respect .

i hate these


magalini
darchinian
calzaghe
jermain taylor


will add more as i remember

ruiz

Nice topic Sal CC ;D

Calzaghe and Hatton

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i hate these


magalini
darchinian
calzaghe
jermain taylor


will add more as i remember

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Well, at least we are seeing developments in your spelling. Are you really over 14 yers old, Sal? ::**

I used to dislike PBF but not anymore,especially since 24/7,he's a nice dude.

Zab when it nears fight time is an ass...

Darchiyan-I REALLY dislike him.

Hate is too strong a word but I HATE his style.

mayweather, if he didnt have that attitude i would repect him.

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i hate these


magalini
darchinian
calzaghe
jermain taylor


will add more as i remember

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Well, at least we are seeing developments in your spelling. Are you really over 14 yers old, Sal? ::**

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3 things

1 - im drunk
2 - my browser tells me when i mispell so if anything is spelled wrong it means i dont give a fuck
3 - i spell magalini wrong intentionally, its the same way i say it, which is also wrong intentionally