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im watching the boxset of all his fights this guy is amasin,
superfast
6th sense to when punches are coming
brilliant footwork
amasing stamina, at the end of fights he doesnt look no diferent from the first,
puts orsume combinations together,
this guy is the full package, i dont think hatton could beat him, the only person who may have a chance is winky wright as of the style he has.
Winky would beat Floyd, Floyd isn't that more skilled and Winky's style would trouble Floyd more than most.
What it really comes down to is that Winky would probably just be too big for Floyd.
WW by competative UD ;)
(then the bastards would probably rob him... again ;D)
yea, if there was any man out there i would want to beat floyd its winky, i agree with your post, i think if floyd was the same weight as winky i think the pretty boy may edge it
Winky would beat Floyd, too big and his defense and counter style would be too much...
I mean, the guy was practically brawling with Taylor and he's a full blown middlweight
You wouldn't see Gatti doing that, that's for sure lol
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i dont recall gatti ever "brawling" with mayweather, unless you consider missing and getting hit brawling ;)
I respect his skills but I dont like him calling himself the best ever but then never fighting anybody that would actually test his greatness.
Well said. I agree 100%. But we all know Mayweather does have one L = Jose Luis Castillo O0Quote:
Originally Posted by TyBuff
well alot of people said that Gatti had the power and the strenght to hurt Floyd, he probably did (although we never found out on the night)...Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
And Winky's alot bigger than Gatti
silverboy- are a amatuer boxer, is that why you study his fights?
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I respect his skills but I dont like him calling himself the best ever but then never fighting anybody that would actually test his greatness.
I believe the main two ppl that will trouble the pretty boy are hatton and oscar dela hoya.
Hatton because he will neutralise floyd by the way he fights. he wont give him room to use all them fancy moves and force mayweather into a fight!
Oscar dela hoya is a great boxer who may have what it takes to bet floyd.
Winky wright has a good defense, but its perfect for floyd. when winky covers up, floyd will come in and throw a quick 2-4 punches and he'll be out of range before wright could do anything. Even floyd Sr said this too. i dont think this because of what floyd sr thinks, i thought of this before i heard his father say ths.
floyd mayweather sr mentioned this in a interview talking about a possible fight with oscar. he was telling the guy why he believes oscar is a threat and winky is not.
yea im an amatuer boxing, and i love boxing, i think hattons style is the style to beat mayweather but i dont think hatton is the guy to do it, hatton gets caught by stupid shots on the way into the pocket and he gets caught by people who are not as fast and do not have the accuracy as pretty boy floyd, also floyd is such a sharpshooter he will definately be hittin hatton in this fight and hatton does not take shots well, he can take a punch but has very thin skin on his face and gets cut up and bruised alot i think mayweather will stop hatton on cuts
yeh ive always said that someone who crowds floyd and bangs him to the body will beat him,Quote:
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only i think ricky can do it, though you make a fair point, im saying he can and could, im not saying he will!!
yea i totally agree with u body head banger, i live in the uk so i would love for hatton to win but i like to tell it how it is
ye bro agreed
Wright doesn't have the style to beat Floyd...just the natural size advantage.
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he didnt get robbed. it was a close fight and you can't disagree with that and the judges scored it a draw. they can akways have another fightQuote:
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If you love him so much, why don't you marry him.Quote:
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LMAO.
Just kidding. Yes he is good and I am glad you are enjoying the sets.
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IMO that was Gatti's biggest mistake he tried to box with Floyd...Though it would not of mattered he would have lost anyway but I think he would have been a little more successful........And maybe he was brawling with Floyd...Just not well LOL
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Agreed!! I don't think Floyd has ever felt the power of a guy with the skill level of DLH at 147....Oscar can bang at the lower weights
DLH fought Bernard and lost ... in my opinion that does nothing to tarnish Oscar's reputation or legacy. He was pushing the envelope big-time and found his limits against a naturally bigger boxer whose skills were very similar (skills, not style ...).
However, I don't think Floyd is in the same position. He has not cemented his legacy in the way that DLH has, as everybody but Floyd seems to know. If he goes against Winky and loses (as he should) it will count against him and his legacy in a way that may not really be fair.
He should clean up against the best at 147 and below as well as he could - Hatton for certain he should fight, I think.
Floyd has fought the great majority of his fights at 130-132 or so and only the last two above 140. Winky has fought at 154 or above give an ounce or 8 for the last 7 years.
Being great - even g.o.a.t. - doesn't mean you can do absolutely anything and everything. Floyd needs to take any and every challenge within weight classes that are at least within his reasonable reach. Then when there is no doubt as to greatness, then step out and push the envolope and fight folks you shouldn't be expected to beat - and see if you can.
Just my thoughts - I think we're a bit hard on Floyd but am not a 'lover' - I think he needs to prove himself. After Baldomir (should he win, and I expect he will) then Hatton. Margarito. Cotto. Anyone. Pick up an L against DLH on the way. But save Winky and the like as end-of-career experiments.
When people say hatton wil lose on cuts, that tells me that they know very little about ricky hatton. The reason he had trouble with cuts in the past was because some vaseline had gotten inside a cut, and the cut was stitched back up with the vaseline stil inside it. The vaseline hardened and dug into the inside of his skin causing it to bleed and bleed excessivley wen he's been hit there. So unless mayweather headbutts his way to a cuts victory, then i cart see that been the reason for hatton losing. The reason hatton will lose is pretty much what u highlighted before hand. Pretty much everything you said up until the cuts.Quote:
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