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sad sad story.......Quote:
Originally Posted by cring
whats sad is that people will pay a single dime to watch a convicted rapist.
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call Mike what you will,
Yes he's done some wrong in his life. No one can question that. He has fought demons (and still does) we all have em, just some worst than others.
I dont forgive mike tyson for what he has done in the past. But i deffinately will never forget what he has done. He changed the face of boxing, forever. In his prime He came into the HWD, and scared the living hell out of whoever was in the opposite corner from him. Before boxing he had no discipline, no goal, no respect, Then Cus came into his life, shaped him to be a man, and right before cus would of been finished, he left mike. All alone, with no guidence, back to being a boy, with no father. Mike lost it.
But anyone who watched mike, anyone who saw a 19 year old kid, scare the life out of 30 year old men, they have to respect that man. You cant just be in Awe of a person like that when hes Performing like no other. You have to be able to try and cope with what he has turned into. To use a person like that, is worst than any crime or act that mike has commited himself.
lol well said mateQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Im a huge Tyson fan, but the truth is that he has no money because of some terribly foolish decisions. Does B Hop have these kinds of financial issues? No, of course not.
We can all say "poor Mike Tyson", yes, he is poor...but he doesnt need a whole lot of pity...
He still drives a BMW, the man is surviving better than most...less of the poor Mike schtick please... ::**
"oh poor mike tyson"....I take it none of you have ever been raped or have a close friend of family member that has....if you had you wouldn't waste a single breath of air on the guy.
totally agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
I dont reckon he did it,Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Well, whether you believe prison is for punishment or rehabilitation, the fact remains that the guy served his time and 'the slate is clean'.... surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Like him or loathe him - Mike Tyson is still receiving more coverage, articles and threads than any current heavyweight in the world.
It tells us 2 things really:
1) The impact Mike had on the division; 2) The current status of the division.
Personally I think rapists should get life sentences......and I'm sure if you ask any rape victim the slate is never clean for them. It is a scar they will carry for them the rest of their lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
there is nobody else to blame other than himself.....
BHOP didn't start leaving tips at restaurants until he made his first million ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I don't think Tyson needs pity, but I don't think people should judge him as harshly as they do. I think what happened to Tyson was a result of the corruption around him and b/c he never had anyone to teach him when he was a child he never knew how to handle certain situations and who to trust.
I never thought of it like that, after all he was only18 when he was knocking out big, massive 30 year old men. When he was 20+ he was considered the toughest/baddest man on the planet. no one dared argue about that either!Quote:
Big Deuce-- But anyone who watched mike, anyone who saw a 19 year old kid, scare the life out of 30 year old men, they have to respect that man. You cant just be in Awe of a person like that when hes Performing like no other. You have to be able to try and cope with what he has turned into. To use a person like that, is worst than any crime or act that mike has commited himself.
She was to much of a HO to get raped.....I cant believe people still talk about that shit in the first place...Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
I have seen athletes from all sports with worse histories than Mike and you all prolly Idolize them, but because you and others want to jump on the band wagon and call him out...
Well, people pay thousands of dollars a game to watch Koby, you dont hear people saying shit about that shit he was in...It might not have been rape, but, it cost him about 5 mil for the ring and California taxpayers millions for court hearings...But, I guess we dont care about that shit eh???
everytime coach posts i appreciate em more and more.
CC
So when a whore comes to your Hotel room dressed in Lingere, you just going to turn her ass away eh??Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Was it rape or was she just pissed cuz he didnt pay her???
well coach, you gotta understand....
No one will ever talk about that. Mike was a Fierce, feared boxer.
Think about boxing, its a sport, (unfortunately, this is how some think)where two men, go to KTFO each other.
And if a man is accused of anything negative, the hell with what the circumstances are, HE"S GUILTY, HE BEATS PEOPLE UP FOR A LIVING!!
The reason I said poor mike is because look at what he is doing, hes in a ring working out so people can watch him, at a casino! it would be sad to see any great champ have to do this to make a living.
After retirment from Boxing, Alexis Aguello was a door greeter at a Las Vegas Casino because of his name....Quote:
Originally Posted by cring
Alot of athletes that retire end up doing stupid shit to make money....
Look at Lennox Lewis, worst commentator in the world(Also gay IMHO), but he does it to make money...
LOL
Good Luck,
Coach
omg...d@mn that karma!
you woulda had 10 for that one
i know someone sc but i dont care how dare u say rape didnt happen this is mike tyson we are on about he did do it i think u should be ashamed of urself for saying it didnt happen and calling her a ho disgusting if u ask me
oh well at least he gets to drive a bmw ;D
Tyson was set up big time and never raped that girl.
I'm not sold on the fact he did it...I mean considering a fucking TAX ATTOURNY was his defense lawyer!Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
The girl's accusation was QUESTIONABLE to say the least
1) It's past 12 a.m. and she goes into Mike's hotel room
2) Mike at this point has HELLA money
3) She is in a second rate beauty contest and she wants her 15 minutes of fame
4) The tax attourny as the defense lawyer
Now we all know Mike has had BIG problems with domestic abuse...no one is denying that but rape and domestic violence don't always go hand in hand they are two different crimes and just because you do one doesn't mean you are guilty of the other too.
As for Tyson trying to get money...better by doing something like this than turning to crime or reality tv or something degrading like that
Yup, Ice Cold we all know rape is bad and dont need lectured on it but I don't believe she was raped either. Probably had sex with Mike and realized that she could be set for life if she used the "r" word. Whatever happened to that ho that said Kobe raped her? Oh yeah...they figured out she had sex with 2 other guys that very same night. Like it or not people are gonna try and pull that if you have money and your an athlete and you can't go believing every woman that said theyve been raped by someone rich and famous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Same deal with the Duke Lacrosse boys...well that and the DA wanted to get re-elected
Yeah, and there were HUGE protests from the black community about that...riots and everything. it was the main news story for weeks. And then it turns out she lied.
And I don't believe Tyson ever beat up on his ex-wife Robin Givens either. Like Mike said, "Anyone with a grain of sense would know that if I punched my wife I would rip her head off. It's all lies. I have never laid a finger on her."
People could see that Tyson was naive and easy to take advantage of and he was often surrounded by leeches and that's that.
hmmm
Tyson get convicted of rape, and Don king steals millions while he's gone..
Interesting (just playing devils advocate)
Tyson-convicted in court and a known criminal by the age of 13
Kobe-not convicted and had no prior criminal history
And do yall realize just how hard it is to actually prove rape in a court of law? The guy did it and its assholes like yall that make it where many women never report rape b/c they think no one will believe them.
You have to either be Canadian or a Foreigner...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
For one thing, do you even know the specifics of the case...
Tyson was screwed from get go, because not only did the bitch get a ton of money, the county that prosecuted him got tons more for doing it....It was all propaganda for those surrounding Tyson at the time, it was nothing about rape at all...
That bitch came to Tysons room at what time at night?? Please remind me, because I want to be a disgusting pig for thinking that a woman that shows up to my hotel room at 2:30 am in a nighty is there just to chat with me.....
She knew what the hell she was wanting and what the hell she was doing...The fact of the matter is, if it would have been tried in a court of law today, with the way the laws have changed, she would have not gotten a single dime and Tyson would have never been convicted....
SC me all you want, because the fact is, YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT!!!! and you hate it!!!
Good luck my delerious friend....
Coach
Maybe if they werent a bunch of money hungry whores I wouldnt say anything...Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Did you happen to see the recent report done about women that do nothing but goto big parties for Basketball players for the money aspect...
Maybe you should think about it like this, When Tyson was convicted of rape, it was a speedy trial, nothing like the trial Kobe had...Now you look at cases like pro football and college sports...Most of these issues are cleared because of the fact that the woman put herself in the position and used rape to try and get herself out of it...
I feel rape can go both ways, I feel women use alot more than men could if they wanted to....And its wrong...
We have irresponsible adults out there doing stupid shit and its because of them that people like Tyson are convicted falsely....
Read about how some of these trials were handled back then, then ask a lawyer of today if they could have proven the Ho wrong and I will guarantee you, 95% will say yes....
Also remember that we live in a corupt society, we are not perfect, but we already know that...
I dont condone rape, I feel a rapist should be shot, but, Tyson didnt rape that Ho....She go pissed because it prolly wasnt that good or her boyfriend busted her coming home after she got done...Who knows??
Noone actually knows what happened, so the best thing to do is leave it be...There are to many mixed feeelings about it...
Coach you weren't in the room nor were you on the jury so lets not play perry mason...does it matter what time she got there? it doesn't even matter what happened right up to the point she said "stop". Only that she said stop. Would you have the same opinion if it was your daughter/mother/sister in the room and decided at some point she wanted to stop and leave? Face it...your hero is scum of the planet and has a better life then he ever deserved.
And you basically just repeated my statement, except for the fact that your still wrong....Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
You said it buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
if some women came to my hotel late at night and I was a millonare im sure she just dident want to chat, i mean come on
He may of not raped that bitch.... Anyways the guy is just trying to do the right thing man.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
So following this scenario...When would you stop trying fuck her? Would it be when she said no...or when she started screaming...how about crying...maybe when she started to kick you....But then again she came to your room late at night so she deserves it right? I'm pretty sure if you went to Tyson's room late at night to hang out with the champ you wouldn't expect to get fucked...or would you?Quote:
Originally Posted by cring
Wait a minute did I miss something? I thought the women had fessed up and said it wasn't true....... Didn't they even interview Mike and thats when he said 'He wished he would have really raped her'Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
A bit confused here. ???