Mayweather-"If I Retired Today, I'd Go Down as the Best Ever."

Floyd was just on Sportscenter and had a heated exchange with Brian Kenny, telling him he doesn't know anything about boxing after Kenny grilled him on why he chose to fight Judah over Baldomir. He then went on to say Hatton outpriced himself, Oscar and Mosley wanted to take vacations, and that it's no question that he'll beat Baldomir. He capped it off by saying just what the title says, saying he respects Ali and Robinson but they can't see him.

Yeah!! I just saw that too and did a thread on it, we must have put it up at the same time ;D

Brian Kenny from ESPN was interviewing PBF they were talking shet as usual when out of no where PBF said the following.

I'm the GREATEST boxer that ever lived, I respect what Muhamad Ali did and all that but I'm PBF, I'm the greatest.


WHAT THE FWOCK IS WRONG WITH HIM? THEY NEED TO RUN SOME DRUG TESTS ON HIM.

How is he greater the SRR, Ali, Louis, Duran. Hes fwocken lost his mind.

WHATEVER!!!! he wishes, most of the people that dont keep up with boxing dont even know who he is. What he really needs is to fight a top fighter that puts him on his place.
he is just starting, he hasn't being tested. Sh1t Castillo laid da smack down on his a$$.
he needs to be quiet because its going to be embarrasing when somebody beats him.

Yes he is a great boxer but he hasnt fought everyone yet. Ali fought the most dangerous fighters in the era. Foreman and frazier, shavers.
robinson fought everyone too,200 plus fights.

sugar leonard never ducked anyone.
James Toney Is greater than him. once pound for pound greatest. The rings fighter of the year about 2/3 times. WHICH IS AN ACHIEVEMENT.

He is such a puff to say he is the greatest. i want baldomir to streamroll this guy. How dare he say that. he hasnt even fought the guys we want him to fight. so far he has fought everyone he knows he could beat including zab!



wht an arsehole! >:mad

Don't recall James Toney winning Ring Fighter of the Year 2 or 3 times. To my knowledge, he won it once, as did Floyd. And I certainly don't recall a single day where Toney was the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

Floyd COULD go down as the best ever if he fights more often and totally dominates the following: Mosley, De la Hoya, Margarito, Baldomir, Hatton, Cotto, Wright, and perhaps tries his hand at 160....he's 5'8 he MIGHT be able to carry his speed up there but he won't KO anyone that's for sure and out pointing Jermain Taylor is hard for ANYONE

I think he technically, and physically superior than either.

No you wouldnt Mayweather you wouldnt be close to best ever you mite get top 20 at a push.

I think he's been talkin' to Terrell Owens.

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sugar leonard never ducked anyone.

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how long have you been following boxing?

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sugar leonard never ducked anyone.

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how long have you been following boxing?

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He didnt, its all speculation IMO. He faught Benitez, Hearns, Hagler, Duran and i bet your one of these Pryor lovers....well Leonard would beat him anways.

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Floyd COULD go down as the best ever if he fights more often and totally dominates the following: Mosley, De la Hoya, Margarito, Baldomir, Hatton, Cotto, Wright, and perhaps tries his hand at 160....he's 5'8 he MIGHT be able to carry his speed up there but he won't KO anyone that's for sure and out pointing Jermain Taylor is hard for ANYONE

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are you seriously putting margaritos name up there with those other great fighters? (at least baldomir is champ)

wow!
arums got you ALL caught up in the hype

i dont think its necessary for pbf to beat margarito to be considered an all time great

or is daniel santos an all time great for beating a "prime" margarito like 5 fights ago?

He thinks he would go down as the best ever. With his resume now? He's full of shit and he knows it. Start fighting some real champs pal. You have the potential and from here on out you better use it on not quality opponents, but big name champs. That's the bottom line. You retire now and you go down as a "what could he have done." As of now, we don't know, because you're still fighting people you should have given up on 10 fights ago. Fight Mosley and Oscar then we gotta consider you. It sucks, but you're that much better than everyone else. Try for the real stars... even they are at the end of their careers.

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He thinks he would go down as the best ever. With his resume now? He's full of S*** and he knows it. Start fighting some real champs pal. You have the potential and from here on out you better use it on not quality opponents, but big name champs. That's the bottom line. You retire now and you go down as a "what could he have done." As of now, we don't know, because you're still fighting people you should have given up on 10 fights ago. Fight Mosley and Oscar then we gotta consider you. It sucks, but you're that much better than everyone else. Try for the real stars... even they are at the end of their careers.

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do hatton, delahoya, and mosely count as "real stars?"
because those are 3 people he tried making fights happen with and it was THEM who didnt want any part of it.
so i guess he took "the east way out." and challenged the linear welterweight champion of the world in carlos baldomir
so if baldomir is not the real welterweight champion, then who is?

Basically......if PBF retired 'today' then he would be remembered as a waste of talent.

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he would NOT be considered g.o.a.t. imo
but its hard to say that having won world titles in 4 different weight classes without ever losing a fight is a "waste of talent"

You really need to see the interview & see what was said & how it was said.

As far as for him being great. Personally...I think a shitload of people are just out there to break out the pitchfork for Floyd...nothing wrong with that I suppose.

Floyd's not God almighty...& again...he knows better than to put stock in being better than Ali...but Floyd is the best of our generation...win, lose, or draw...Floyd brings great fights & excitement.

He was just going at BK again.

Yes, Mosley is a real star. Oscar.... beyond a star.
Hatton, no. He's my favorite fighter though. ;)

"The Best Ever" is a huge mouthful. Although PBF's mouth is plenty big..... I'm pretty sure most of the civilized world would agree that those three words are a bit much even for him, right now.

He might be the best ever for all we know.

Just hasn't proved it yet.

I suggest we craft an open letter to PBF from saddoboxing. Something that tells him what he needs to accomplish before we will agree with him.

It can't be hater material, obviously. Haters can make suggestions, but not directly edit material ...

It also can't dictate only one possible route; it needs to respect his options and freedom.

But recognizing that he considers himself the g.o.a.t. - let's give him some clear ideas of why we are not able to agree with him at this time, and what it would take for us more or less to be persuaded. (Not that it would be an absolute; it would always be arguable; but to legitimize his claim to the point that it is arguably true - what would it take?)

Let's do a great job with it, and perhaps get it noticed and mentioned by the boxing media - at least, some of it.

And maybe even by PBF.

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"The Best Ever" is a huge mouthful. Although PBF's mouth is plenty big..... I'm pretty sure most of the civilized world would agree that those three words are a bit much even for him, right now.

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Cotto beats PBF at 147.

Cotto will beat the man that PBF fears too. Margarito.

Thee End.

I know what you guys are thinking. We have never seen Cotto at 147. You all might not have but I have. Prophecy! ;D

Floyd is a good fighter (I have him 2 pfp after pacquaio) but he's got a long way to go before he's manifested his legacy. Great fighters are made from great fights. Where is Floyd's statement fight? Floyd's greatet moments have said "I'm here" instead of "This is MY game". His biggest win was a steady but unspectaular performance against the consistently disapointing Zab Judah.

(http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000352)

Is there anyone you'd like to see knocked tf'ing f out more than this guy? (ok other than Judah). He's a wife beater and his excuse was that she was messing with his material possesions that he worked so hard for. He comes into the ring with a robe that says "philthy rich records" which is a record company that he started. He's such a prolific label tycoon that philthy rich hasn't released one record.

The greatest fighter of our era is Bernard Hopkins period.

and lastly, remind me again what IMO means? (trying to keep up).

IMO acronym for In My Opion

http://www.muller-godschalk.com/acronyms.html

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Floyd COULD go down as the best ever if he fights more often and totally dominates the following: Mosley, De la Hoya, Margarito, Baldomir, Hatton, Cotto, Wright, and perhaps tries his hand at 160....he's 5'8 he MIGHT be able to carry his speed up there but he won't KO anyone that's for sure and out pointing Jermain Taylor is hard for ANYONE

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You hit it right on the nail! CC Lyle, you know he's working with his special Solar Plexus punch. Pulled it off against Mitchell, did not see that much against Zab though. Maybe a little more refinement and that would be his specialty punch. I mean a perfect blow to the solar plexus can produce serious damage.

James Toney is just as great as b-hop or greater!! i think greater :)

Anyways, Who did you say was a wife beater, mayweather or judah?

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i agree

PBF talking nonsense and making a fool of himself once again,nothing new ALTHOUGH if he beats the guys Lyle mentioned,he would be one of the best ever for sure!

How his legacy turns out is entirely up to him,if he persists in fighting purely for money and fighting guys like Spinks etc then he needs to shut the F up about Ali,SRR etc but if he really cares about the legacy,he'll take Hatton etc.

Also,I could not care less about the multiple titles in weights,he did not always win the RING title soooo......

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I think he's been talkin' to Terrell Owens.

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I think he is T.O.

I wish PBF would just shut up and show us why he is "so great" in the ring. He needs to start doing his talking inside the ring against an opponent that can put up a fight against him. I am getting so tired of hearing how "great" he thinks he is. Just get in the ring with an elite fighter and prove it to us. I lose more and more respect for PBF the more I hear from him.

WOW!

See what happens when you guys don't do research and just base your opinion on what somebody told you someone else said? It was on ESPN friday night fights, was nobody here watching it?

He said "If I retire today I would go down as the best"

Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)

Then Floyd said "I can't take anything away from Ali or Robinson, but I didn't fight in their era. I'm fighting in my own era. Of course I think i'm the best. If you're a boxer and you DON'T think you're the best, get out of the sport right now."

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James Toney is just as great as b-hop or greater!! i think greater :)

Anyways, Who did you say was a wife beater, mayweather or judah?

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James Toney would eat PBF for breakfast, but thats a whole different story!! ;D

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"The Best Ever" is a huge mouthful. Although PBF's mouth is plenty big..... I'm pretty sure most of the civilized world would agree that those three words are a bit much even for him, right now.

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Cotto beats PBF at 147.

Cotto will beat the man that PBF fears too. Margarito.

Thee End.

I know what you guys are thinking. We have never seen Cotto at 147. You all might not have but I have. Prophecy! ;D

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Yea nostradomous good one ::** Seriously Doubt it

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WOW!

See what happens when you guys don't do research and just base your opinion on what somebody told you someone else said? It was on ESPN friday night fights, was nobody here watching it?

He said "If I retire today I would go down as the best"

Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)

Then Floyd said "I can't take anything away from Ali or Robinson, but I didn't fight in their era. I'm fighting in my own era. Of course I think i'm the best. If you're a boxer and you DON'T think you're the best, get out of the sport right now."

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Very true, its when you find out who just listens to heresay and who actually watches the interviews

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WOW!

See what happens when you guys don't do research and just base your opinion on what somebody told you someone else said? It was on ESPN friday night fights, was nobody here watching it?

He said "If I retire today I would go down as the best"

Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)

Then Floyd said "I can't take anything away from Ali or Robinson, but I didn't fight in their era. I'm fighting in my own era. Of course I think i'm the best. If you're a boxer and you DON'T think you're the best, get out of the sport right now."

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Here is your 1st cool click
Thanks for the Clarification!!!!!! Now all you guys owe Mr. Mayweather an apology.... ;)

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WOW!

See what happens when you guys don't do research and just base your opinion on what somebody told you someone else said? It was on ESPN friday night fights, was nobody here watching it?

He said "If I retire today I would go down as the best"

Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)

Then Floyd said "I can't take anything away from Ali or Robinson, but I didn't fight in their era. I'm fighting in my own era. Of course I think i'm the best. If you're a boxer and you DON'T think you're the best, get out of the sport right now."

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Here is your 1st cool click
Thanks for the Clarification!!!!!! Now all you guys owe Mr. Mayweather an apology.... ;)

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Who owes anyone an apology ::**? I saw the interview as well and the first two posters relayed it acurately. And I also find it hilarious you can try to correct someone's accuracy while at the same time stating, "Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)." ;D ;D

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WOW!

See what happens when you guys don't do research and just base your opinion on what somebody told you someone else said? It was on ESPN friday night fights, was nobody here watching it?

He said "If I retire today I would go down as the best"

Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)

Then Floyd said "I can't take anything away from Ali or Robinson, but I didn't fight in their era. I'm fighting in my own era. Of course I think i'm the best. If you're a boxer and you DON'T think you're the best, get out of the sport right now."

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Here is your 1st cool click
Thanks for the Clarification!!!!!! Now all you guys owe Mr. Mayweather an apology.... ;)

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Who owes anyone an apology ::**? I saw the interview as well and the first two posters relayed it acurately. And I also find it hilarious you can try to correct someone's accuracy while at the same time stating, "Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)." ;D ;D

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I honestly don't know exactly how Kenny said it, but he did question him on it and Floyd clarified what he meant. The thing about the eras and how all boxers should consider themselves the best was 100% what Floyd said.

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Floyd COULD go down as the best ever if he fights more often and totally dominates the following: Mosley, De la Hoya, Margarito, Baldomir, Hatton, Cotto, Wright, and perhaps tries his hand at 160....he's 5'8 he MIGHT be able to carry his speed up there but he won't KO anyone that's for sure and out pointing Jermain Taylor is hard for ANYONE

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You hit it right on the nail! CC Lyle, you know he's working with his special Solar Plexus punch. Pulled it off against Mitchell, did not see that much against Zab though. Maybe a little more refinement and that would be his specialty punch. I mean a perfect blow to the solar plexus can produce serious damage.

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just out of interest..wats a solar plexus punch?

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Floyd COULD go down as the best ever if he fights more often and totally dominates the following: Mosley, De la Hoya, Margarito, Baldomir, Hatton, Cotto, Wright, and perhaps tries his hand at 160....he's 5'8 he MIGHT be able to carry his speed up there but he won't KO anyone that's for sure and out pointing Jermain Taylor is hard for ANYONE

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You hit it right on the nail! CC Lyle, you know he's working with his special Solar Plexus punch. Pulled it off against Mitchell, did not see that much against Zab though. Maybe a little more refinement and that would be his specialty punch. I mean a perfect blow to the solar plexus can produce serious damage.

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just out of interest..wats a solar plexus punch?

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He is talking about a BodyShot.....Floyd digs that straight right under Ribcage....Floyd is an excellent bodypuncher and is very underrated in that department...

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WOW!

See what happens when you guys don't do research and just base your opinion on what somebody told you someone else said? It was on ESPN friday night fights, was nobody here watching it?

He said "If I retire today I would go down as the best"

Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)

Then Floyd said "I can't take anything away from Ali or Robinson, but I didn't fight in their era. I'm fighting in my own era. Of course I think i'm the best. If you're a boxer and you DON'T think you're the best, get out of the sport right now."

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Here is your 1st cool click
Thanks for the Clarification!!!!!! Now all you guys owe Mr. Mayweather an apology.... ;)

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Who owes anyone an apology ::**? I saw the interview as well and the first two posters relayed it acurately. And I also find it hilarious you can try to correct someone's accuracy while at the same time stating, "Kenny asked him if he was sure about that (or something to that effect)." ;D ;D

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I honestly don't know exactly how Kenny said it, but he did question him on it and Floyd clarified what he meant. The thing about the eras and how all boxers should consider themselves the best was 100% what Floyd said.

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cc, only a true hater would/could see it differently

Thats funny I got 5 anonymous Sc's man that is pathetic people will do the deed but only from hiding behind there keyboards ::**