THERE SHOULD BE A REMATCH**
THIS IS AWFUL. I DONT KNOW WHICH FIGHT THE JUDGES WERE WATCHING!
THIS FIGHT WAS OBVIOUSLY A ROBBERY. PETERS WAS SOMINATED AND WAS EVEN DEDUCTED A POINT...COME ON GUYS NOW LETS BE FAIR, Toney won!
Before peters goes to fight for the title. why doesnt he have a rematch with Toney, i think he should. He lost clearly, this cr@p is messing up the sport.
Those of you's that said Toney was getting KTFO, EAT YOUR WAOOOOOORDS.
Toney clearly won.
I think there should be a rematch. I know the winner was suppost to fight Oleg Maskaev for the title. But After a decision like this I think a rematch makes lot of sense!!!
What do you lot think?
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There should be a rematch. I want to see Toney knock Peter the fuck out.
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Sure there should be a rematch...the fight was close...but Toney did not dominate Peter.
Let's not forget that Peter gave as good as he got & hurt Toney several times.
That was a good fight & just because LORD TONEY didn't win doesn't make it a robbery.
One day...you gents are going to have to recognize & come to terms with the facts that Toney aint a heavyweight & he's already proven that he CAN'T save the division.
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So you would have been ok with
114-114
117-111 Peter
118-110 Peter
If there was no point deduction?
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
So you would have been ok with
114-114
117-111 Peter
118-110 Peter
If there was no point deduction?
Again...I paid no attention to the margin as I generally don't.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Let me say this...& everyone can rip this to shreds all you want...but I generally try to score the fight myself when watching. I don't try to focus on the judges...but more so what I think.
I thought that Peter hung well with Toney.
I thought that the fight was very close.
I thought that Toney won.
I have no problem that Peter won because that S*** was close.
Way to close for me to scream robbery.
End of story.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Sure there should be a rematch...the fight was close...but Toney did not dominate Peter.
Let's not forget that Peter gave as good as he got & hurt Toney several times.
That was a good fight & just because LORD TONEY didn't win doesn't make it a robbery.
One day...you gents are going to have to recognize & come to terms with the facts that Toney aint a heavyweight & he's already proven that he CAN'T save the division.
Nah, Toney proved he CAN take a better punch than the 250+ lb mighty Wladimir Klitschko. He's faced better comp, BEATEN better competition than anybody, and was royally SCREWED tonght. And I like both Peter and Toney, and was hopin Peter would humble James a little, not KO him, but drop him or somethin. He couldnt. James Won. James IS the absolute best HW in the world bar none. Everyone knows it.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Sure there should be a rematch...the fight was close...but Toney did not dominate Peter.
Let's not forget that Peter gave as good as he got & hurt Toney several times.
That was a good fight & just because LORD TONEY didn't win doesn't make it a robbery.
One day...you gents are going to have to recognize & come to terms with the facts that Toney aint a heavyweight & he's already proven that he CAN'T save the division.
Winning 9 rounds in a 12 round fight > giving as good as he got
The judges pretty much said he beat the snot of out Toney, lol
We alllllll know better than that and I actually Like Peter better than
Anyone in the Division. Well at least I used to
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
So you would have been ok with
114-114
117-111 Peter
118-110 Peter
If there was no point deduction?
Again...I paid no attention to the margin as I generally don't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Let me say this...& everyone can rip this to shreds all you want...but I generally try to score the fight myself when watching. I don't try to focus on the judges...but more so what I think.
I thought that Peter hung well with Toney.
I thought that the fight was very close.
I thought that Toney won.
I have no problem that Peter won because that S*** was close.
Way to close for me to scream robbery.
End of story.
You don't pay attention to the margin? To me the margin represents the mindstate of the Judges more so than the overall decision. So a judge pretty much saying Peter won 8 or 9 rounds in a 12 round fight doesn't make you wonder what else he was thinking? Interesting
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Originally Posted by JackJohnsonGhost
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
So you would have been ok with
114-114
117-111 Peter
118-110 Peter
If there was no point deduction?
Again...I paid no attention to the margin as I generally don't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Let me say this...& everyone can rip this to shreds all you want...but I generally try to score the fight myself when watching. I don't try to focus on the judges...but more so what I think.
I thought that Peter hung well with Toney.
I thought that the fight was very close.
I thought that Toney won.
I have no problem that Peter won because that S*** was close.
Way to close for me to scream robbery.
End of story.
You don't pay attention to the margin? To me the margin represents the mindstate of the Judges more so than the overall decision. So a judge pretty much saying Peter won 8 or 9 rounds in a 12 round fight doesn't make you wonder what else he was thinking? Interesting
Well Jack Johnson back in your day you just knocked them out and didn't have to worry about the judges :) Who do you think won?
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by JackJohnsonGhost
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
So you would have been ok with
114-114
117-111 Peter
118-110 Peter
If there was no point deduction?
Again...I paid no attention to the margin as I generally don't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Let me say this...& everyone can rip this to shreds all you want...but I generally try to score the fight myself when watching. I don't try to focus on the judges...but more so what I think.
I thought that Peter hung well with Toney.
I thought that the fight was very close.
I thought that Toney won.
I have no problem that Peter won because that S*** was close.
Way to close for me to scream robbery.
End of story.
You don't pay attention to the margin? To me the margin represents the mindstate of the Judges more so than the overall decision. So a judge pretty much saying Peter won 8 or 9 rounds in a 12 round fight doesn't make you wonder what else he was thinking? Interesting
Well Jack Johnson back in your day you just knocked them out and didn't have to worry about the judges :) Who do you think won?
Here's what I think:
-Sam Peter landed the more powerful punches
-James Toney landed slightly more power punches
-James Toney landed more jabs as Sam left his right hand ignorantly low
-Sam came on stronger than I thought in the fight and made it closer
With all that being said James Toney won the "Boxing Match" and the fight.
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Sam Peter's face was a puddle of mess. Overall, and again I said.. "overall" Toney did land many more punches and the only time that Peter "ever" was effective was when he landed a few big shots. Wacko doesn't know.
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Just finished watching the fight again...It was close. Peter was strong down the stretch.
A Toney at 225 pounds would have been more elusive and would have taken Peter to school proper...
Still, thought Toney won by 2 rounds though...
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A rematch in my opinion would make fighting to begin with a pointless endeaver. They fought an elimination match to see who fights Maskaev. If Toney and Peter fight again and Toney wins then what? They fight a third time and see who wins that? Pointless. By that time Toney would be older, covered in more blubber, and braindead. Maskaev sits around until then or loses the belt to someone else?
If the winner wasn't promised a with Maskaev they would not have fought in the first place. Toney lost and needs to find another row to hoe.
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Peter should KO Maskeav. But it should be Toney fightin for the title, NOT Peter. Toney won the damn fight, only rabid haters condone or support the decision.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
A rematch in my opinion would make fighting to begin with a pointless endeaver. They fought an elimination match to see who fights Maskaev. If Toney and Peter fight again and Toney wins then what? They fight a third time and see who wins that? Pointless. By that time Toney would be older, covered in more blubber, and braindead. Maskaev sits around until then or loses the belt to someone else?
If the winner wasn't promised a with Maskaev they would not have fought in the first place. Toney lost and needs to find another row to hoe.
I agree with you in principal as the whole purpose of an eliminator is to eliminate someone.
But Toney did win that fight. I don't think it will hurt him much, he'll probably still be a bigger draw than most other heavies out there and will get another two or title shots regardless anyway,
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I am yet to see the fight but from what people are saying and what i know about both boxers....Toney is alot more deserving of a title shot then Peter and would like to see him settle this score.
