Just like to hear peoples opinions on this topic.....I really am not sure maybe if i had to say would be Pac Man...or maybe Barrera
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Just like to hear peoples opinions on this topic.....I really am not sure maybe if i had to say would be Pac Man...or maybe Barrera
Either Pac, Mab or Winky probablyQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
I would say on potential it's PBF but I don't think his opposition warrants a place at number 1
Yeah I have not seen enough off him box to vote him...I would say going by recent forum Pac man will get my vote :laugh:
Beating Morales and Barerra is a pretty good case for himQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
Pac is the only real argument against PBF, but I don't think there's too much of an argument for that at this time.
PBF #1 pfp
I have not seen much of Floyd box but I have off Pac man and from wot I have seen he would be hard to top...
I think all the argument about Pac and Floyd P4P issue will be settled after the Pac-Mor III fight. But in the meantime, it'll be...who else but - just check my name. ;D
I vote for PacMan even though he beat the crap out of my boy MAB, I can't hate PacMan for it, that is what they do for a living and besides that, PacMan is a gentleman insided and outside of the ring. He is a warrior. I would like him a lot more if he was not so polite in the ring. I would love to see him get angry at his opponents. Freddy Roach is always telling him to stop being so nice in the ring. Damn it Manny! Listen to Freddy! lol
How do you figure? Morales has lost 3 of his last 4..Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Barreras been at the top longer than anyone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Winky finally getting his credit
floyd still unbeaten just needs some names on his record
taylor soon to be top dog imo
pac cuz hes beaten 2 big names
Floyd Mayweather is the best P4P
OMG TEH MARGARITO IS THE BEST P4P BUT EVERYONE IS TOO AFRAID TO FIGHT HIM AND IS DUCKING HIM!!!11!!!
Yup, I really don't see how it's up for discussion who the best P4P is at the moment...it's PBF without a doubt.
Like I said earlier PACMAN is the only one who can hold a flame to that statement, but he is sitting firmly in #2 imo.
PBF and Winky are tied for first
mayweather, espically if he beats baldomir to become linear ww champ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
as for pac................... a distant 2nd, and i wouldnt read too much into him fighting a way faded morales cause he did lose to raheem pretty recently
I have to say Wright the guy is just getting better....He proved his worth in the Taylor fight and IMO has fought a better string of OPP than PBF
LOOK!! Jermain Taylor has about as much right to the number 1 spot as Floyd Mayweather!!
The proof is in the pudding ;D
before Taylor beat BHop, BHop was no.1 p4p
before Taylor drew with Wright, Wright was equal no.1 p4p
to be classed the best of the lot you have too at least prove your the best of your division!? ???
A win over Baldomir gives Mayweather a good claim for the spot ;)
Name me 3 who went on to become World Champ after Jermain Taylor beat them and then you'll have a point to it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairdoo
yeh valid point... who were the 3? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
1.) carlos hernandez
2.) diego corrales
3.) jose luis castillo (twice)
I was surprised as to how many people on this issue were spot on. Floyd is the most common answer but my choice goes to Pacquaio.
In the last couple of years Manny has knocked out or blown out 2 (4?) future hall of fame fighters. In that same span Floyd has merely kept busy, even if he has looked dominant during it. I don't think an assured victory over Baldomir changes that.
You can't blame Floyd that there are fewer big name challenges at his weight classes but tell that to someone like Israel Vasquez or Joe Calzage (sp?).
Floyd may be the most naturally gifted fighter today but right now its Manny's time.
pretty boy floyd is number one right now
Manny Pacquiao for the opposition he has faced,ditto Winky,with Jermian Taylor leaping over them both if he beats Winky but Pacman coming back if he beats EM.PBF is there based on talent alone,no way does his resume in the last 4 years measure up to those 3 guys but he more talent than all of them.
Definitely Winky!! No question about that. Takes on all the top guys and wins convincingly. By the way, you gotta love how he backed down the bigger man in Taylor. Pac has an argument but for now it's got to be Winky. These guys don't duck ala Floyd.
You have to be kidding, saying that there aren't enough names for Floyd to make a name.Quote:
Originally Posted by a harmful of swallows
Its easily PBF still... Judah was the hardest opponent for him IMO except maybe Mosley because he didn't power or gloves to take advantage of Judah's chin, and Judah was focused, fast, and on the ball for the fight its just Mayweather used his skill to figure Judah out and dominate the fight.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I dont know about Judah being the hardest for PBF....Though in the first few rds I thought Judah might actually do it...He was outboxing him and hurting him with the shots to the body...( I loved watching PBF wince shit talking weasel he is) but Judah cant help but breakdown as soon as things get a little difficult...If Zab just made an adjustment or two he could have done it....BUT Castillo was his hardest opp...PBF lost that first fight and was given a gift
are you kidding?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
its got to be me!! ;)
lol i couldnt say theres too many great fighters out today and theyre all changing wieght class and having great fights, i jus sit back and watch without tryin to judge who the best p4p... makes the ol brain hurt!! ;)
peace
IMO...
1. Pacman
2. Winky
3. PBF
PBF is the more naturally talented of the group but he really hasnt fought anybody to truly prove how much talent he has. He hasnt had a gut check fight since Castillo 2. It seems like Pacman and Winky are in gut check fights every other fight. I think they are all close, but put Pacman and Winky ahead because they have proved how good they are against tougher competition.
COOL CLICK bro thats REAL talk!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Yup, you are right but that the seems to be consensus among many boxing analysts from different boxing websites. Winky going down from number 2 spot to 3 because of his draw with Taylor and Pac taking over his spot there for beating Larios. But still there are some who place Pac at number one spot arguing that Floyd's choice of opponents are not as impressive as Pac's but still Floyd has a slight lead against Pac at the ratio of about 3 to 2. This is what I meant by the 'argument about Pac and Floyd P4P issue' and since Floyd stand at the number 1 spot on a thin margin, the scale can be easily tipped in Pac's favor if he convincingly beat Erik again, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
1 thing,people can say what they want but a win for EM over Manny makes him close to P4P again just as a win for Pacman means alot too. Erik lost to Pacman but did well for the beginning of the fight,lost to Raheem who makes everyone look ugly and lost to MAB on points in a match which could have gone either way(I had it to EM by 2) but my point being, a win over Erik would still be a BIG win for Manny,Erik is a legend and a dangerous threat.
Yup, about the gentleman part, he sometimes has overdone it. In his last fight with Larios, I just can't forget and understand why he touched gloves with Larios immediately after the two knockdowns instead of going furiously for the KO. ??? ??? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Hands down I'd have to say Floyd and Winky are neck in neck for the first slot.
After that...Pacquiao or Barrera...but I think that Barrera's rein of near supremacy is nearing it's end.
No matter what anyone says...critical or not...I think that Floyd is the number one guy.
Agreed. But in the minds of all Pacman fans, there is this lingering fear that he can be beaten, with the memory of his two knockdowns before his hometown crowd haunting them (including me). Strangely, Pac never seems to fight well before his hometown crowd; I think the pressure is just too much. Even in the Larios fight, he seemed to be not his usual self, only to be awaken by Larios on the 3rd round after being stunned by his furious kamikaze attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
The only complaint I have among some of the top contenders here is that they overdo their defensive jobs; overcautios Floyd seems to approach his opponent with a ten-foot pole; Winky hiding under his gloves just a little bit too much; and Hopkins adopting hit and HOLD strategy, to the frustration of Tarver, preventing him from countering. I think these over-defensive postures take away a lot from the excitement of the fight. As a gladiator type of sports, I think they should be man enough to be fighting more offensively. This is where Floyd differs from Sugar Ray Leonard who engages his opponent a bit more to make the fight exciting.
Floyd Mayweather closely followed by Winky and Pacman.