Re: How Good Can Hatton be
He's as good as he's going to get. He's faught over 35 times already. I doubt he's learning anything new. He's already perfected the clinch and hit.
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I understand he is as good as he is gonna be but I think everyone now just wants to see him fight the top boys Corrales Mayweather etc
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I think he is at his peak now and needs to make the big fights happen in the next 2 years,I'm talking about Chico,JLC,mAYWEATHER,cOTTO,show us what he truly is made of and go out on a high and as a legend! Oh and unify the titles at 140 maybe? It's possible!
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I think he is at his peak now and needs to make the big fights happen in the next 2 years,I'm talking about Chico,JLC,mAYWEATHER,cOTTO,show us what he truly is made of and go out on a high and as a legend! Oh and unify the titles at 140 maybe? It's possible!
I think Hatton loses to Mayweather, Castillo and Corrales. He would have a chance against Corrales, though. The Cotto fight, i see as a toss up.
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I think he is at his peak now and needs to make the big fights happen in the next 2 years,I'm talking about Chico,JLC,mAYWEATHER,cOTTO,show us what he truly is made of and go out on a high and as a legend! Oh and unify the titles at 140 maybe? It's possible!
I think Hatton loses to Mayweather, Castillo and Corrales. He would have a chance against Corrales, though. The Cotto fight, i see as a toss up.
I don't see the Cotto figth going his way either......Cotto is massive for a 140lb fighter.....that doesn't bode well for Hatton....
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I think Hatton whips Chico, I think JLC is tough for anyone, I think Cotto beats him....I don't see a fight with PBF on the horizon.
Ricky has reached his peak it's now a question of how long will he stay there...he needs to ONLY fight the "big fights" : Witter, Harris, Cotto, JLC, Corrales, etc
Re: How Good Can Hatton be
I just don't know I like hatton he has two styles the one that he goes with a guy he can KO and cannot damage him and the one we are watching lately with the holding and hitting with guys that can hut him. I Just don't know how strong JLC will be at 140 but I bet my house that Hatton power is alot more than castillo or Corrales.
I will go with Hatton with this two. About Witter I have never seen him and about Cotto at 140 I will go for Cotto for a tecnical point of view but Hatton has more stamina than him at that weight and that can mean alot specially for Cotto with him loosing a lot of weight before a fight.
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I dont know if Hatton "Whips" Cotto but It will be close.... Puncher against, smart, har punching, boxer...... tough ???
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Hatton is really good but inactivity is whats killing him and many other fighters. Now to Hatton vs. Cotto. I really don't know what would happen Hatton has some decent hands and Cotto's chin seems to be faulty at times. While Cotto has a lot of power and Hatton's chin was somewhat exposed by Collazo. I'm waiting to see Hatton's next fight to see what happens, those last couple rounds with Collazo really got me wondering.
A really good idea for Hatton would be he wins against Urango, then he takes on the winner of Corrales vs Casamayor(talks them up a weight). If that doesn't work. Yeah, Cotto and JLC are very probable.
I know this is off topic but does anyone know how much Cotto weighs in the offseason? Some boxers let themself get really huge when they don't watch their diet, etc. Like Baldomir saying he weighs up in the 200s at some points in training.
Re: How Good Can Hatton be
Hatton is a good Jr. Welter. He should probably stay there as well, and not jump back up to 147. It's gonna take at least a couple more big wins to make him a Hall of famer or anything like that. He should seek out Cotto for sure, and maybe Castillo. A fight with Floyd could also be good, though I think Floyd would whip him. For the UK fans a bout with Witter needs to happen, I hate the British Troll (Hatton), but I really can't stand Witter either. Hatton needs to pound him.
Re: How Good Can Hatton be
Has Hatton reached his peak probably, but every one who you mention have too.Ware and tare, its part of the game. This is the time a good matchmaker earns his money.
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So who is Hatton fighting next
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So who is Hatton fighting next
i think hes fighting urango or some garbage next
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Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
So who is Hatton fighting next
i think hes fighting urango or some garbage next
God I love boxrec....................
2007-01-06 Juan Urango
Juan Urango
Sex Male
Nationality Colombian
Alias Iron Twin
Birth Name Juan Fernando Urango Rivas
Global ID 214425
Federal ID FL065615
Hometown Miami, FL, USA
Birthplace Jaraquielle, Colombia
Rated at Light Welterweight
World Rank 6 / 876
Date of Birth 1980-10-04
Age 25
Reach 71
Height 5' 8
Trainer Alejandro
Manager Luis Navarro
W 17 (13 ko's) | L 0 | D 1 | Total 18
Notable wins: N/A
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Ricky Hatton
Sex Male
Nationality British
Alias The Hitman
Birth Name Richard Hatton
Global ID 009314
Hometown Manchester, England
Birthplace Stockport, England
Rated at Welterweight
World Rank 2 / 1069
Date of Birth 1978-10-06
Age 27
Reach 65”
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 6
Trainer Billy Graham
Manager Ray Hatton
W 41 (30 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 41
Notable wins: Kostya Tzsyu, Carlos Maussa, Luis Collazo
Re: How Good Can Hatton be
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
So who is Hatton fighting next
i think hes fighting urango or some garbage next
God I love boxrec....................
2007-01-06 Juan Urango
Juan Urango
Sex Male
Nationality Colombian
Alias Iron Twin
Birth Name Juan Fernando Urango Rivas
Global ID 214425
Federal ID FL065615
Hometown Miami, FL, USA
Birthplace Jaraquielle, Colombia
Rated at Light Welterweight
World Rank 6 / 876
Date of Birth 1980-10-04
Age 25
Reach 71
Height 5' 8
Trainer Alejandro
Manager Luis Navarro
W 17 (13 ko's) | L 0 | D 1 | Total 18
Notable wins: N/A
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Ricky Hatton
Sex Male
Nationality British
Alias The Hitman
Birth Name Richard Hatton
Global ID 009314
Hometown Manchester, England
Birthplace Stockport, England
Rated at Welterweight
World Rank 2 / 1069
Date of Birth 1978-10-06
Age 27
Reach 65”
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 6
Trainer Billy Graham
Manager Ray Hatton
W 41 (30 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 41
Notable wins: Kostya Tzsyu, Carlos Maussa, Luis Collazo
im disappointed with hatton.
hes got a 3 fight schedule with hbo that was originally designed to end with a hatton/pbf mega fight (according to ring magazine august issue)and the first fight was with collazo, and hes gonna waste #2 on urango.
the only remotely big fight at 140 would be with jlc, so that could be #3
theres other fights that would be good at 140, but i dont see many being mega fights like hbo wanted.
i gotta hunch that hattons gonna be a showtime fighter by early next year ;)
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I agree about the 140 competition that is available, I wouldn't mind seeing him face Junior Witter or D-hop,
I would think that either of those would be bigger draws than Urango. Of course JLC would be the biggest
And then he could say he beat the man that beat PBF (if he won of course)
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Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree about the 140 competition that is available, I wouldn't mind seeing him face Junior Witter or D-hop,
I would think that either of those would be bigger draws than Urango. Of course JLC would be the biggest
And then he could say he beat the man that beat PBF (if he won of course)
if castillo beat pbf.................
then collazo beat hatton
quartey beat delahoya
strum beat delahoya
toney beat peter
juarez beat barerra
and the list goes on and on but it doesnt matter, because a close fight where you LOSE a decision doesnt count as a victory
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
So who is Hatton fighting next
i think hes fighting urango or some garbage next
God I love boxrec....................
2007-01-06 Juan Urango
Juan Urango
Sex Male
Nationality Colombian
Alias Iron Twin
Birth Name Juan Fernando Urango Rivas
Global ID 214425
Federal ID FL065615
Hometown Miami, FL, USA
Birthplace Jaraquielle, Colombia
Rated at Light Welterweight
World Rank 6 / 876
Date of Birth 1980-10-04
Age 25
Reach 71
Height 5' 8
Trainer Alejandro
Manager Luis Navarro
W 17 (13 ko's) | L 0 | D 1 | Total 18
Notable wins: N/A
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Ricky Hatton
Sex Male
Nationality British
Alias The Hitman
Birth Name Richard Hatton
Global ID 009314
Hometown Manchester, England
Birthplace Stockport, England
Rated at Welterweight
World Rank 2 / 1069
Date of Birth 1978-10-06
Age 27
Reach 65”
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 6
Trainer Billy Graham
Manager Ray Hatton
W 41 (30 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 41
Notable wins: Kostya Tzsyu, Carlos Maussa, Luis Collazo
im disappointed with hatton.
hes got a 3 fight schedule with hbo that was originally designed to end with a hatton/pbf mega fight (according to ring magazine august issue)and the first fight was with collazo, and hes gonna waste #2 on urango.
the only remotely big fight at 140 would be with jlc, so that could be #3
theres other fights that would be good at 140, but i dont see many being mega fights like hbo wanted.
i gotta hunch that hattons gonna be a showtime fighter by early next year ;)
Not only that, but his most recent victory, against Ben Rahbah was a complete robbery (as has been mentioned). I watched it back when it aired on FNF and Rahbah was seriously boxing circles around Urango and urango didnt connect with ANYTHING but air 99% of the time. Think of Peter-Toney; except Urango connected with FAR fewer punches than Peter did and never hurt Rabah. Urango-Rabah was a true robbery.
I think Hatton peaked vs. Tszyu and will never be able to perform on that level again. He'll be able to do better than he did against Collazo, but I think it's really pathetic to take on Urango..that's really reaching towards the bottom of the barrel and he should be really be fighting better opponents. He's wasting his potential and his fans time. Most of the big names have moved up to 147 anyways other than and hatton has proved that he wont be able to compete on that level with any of the top 10.
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I agree about the 140 competition that is available, I wouldn't mind seeing him face Junior Witter or D-hop,
I would think that either of those would be bigger draws than Urango. Of course JLC would be the biggest
And then he could say he beat the man that beat PBF (if he won of course)
Dude, pbf-jlc I was a close fight and saying that pbf straight out lost is nonsense. PBF won definitively in the rematch anyways.
I do agree though unless Hatton does a complete 180 that fighting castillo is the closet he's ever going to get to Floyd
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
So who is Hatton fighting next
i think hes fighting urango or some garbage next
God I love boxrec....................
2007-01-06 Juan Urango
Juan Urango
Sex Male
Nationality Colombian
Alias Iron Twin
Birth Name Juan Fernando Urango Rivas
Global ID 214425
Federal ID FL065615
Hometown Miami, FL, USA
Birthplace Jaraquielle, Colombia
Rated at Light Welterweight
World Rank 6 / 876
Date of Birth 1980-10-04
Age 25
Reach 71
Height 5' 8
Trainer Alejandro
Manager Luis Navarro
W 17 (13 ko's) | L 0 | D 1 | Total 18
Notable wins: N/A
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Ricky Hatton
Sex Male
Nationality British
Alias The Hitman
Birth Name Richard Hatton
Global ID 009314
Hometown Manchester, England
Birthplace Stockport, England
Rated at Welterweight
World Rank 2 / 1069
Date of Birth 1978-10-06
Age 27
Reach 65”
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 6
Trainer Billy Graham
Manager Ray Hatton
W 41 (30 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 41
Notable wins: Kostya Tzsyu, Carlos Maussa, Luis Collazo
im disappointed with hatton.
hes got a 3 fight schedule with hbo that was originally designed to end with a hatton/pbf mega fight (according to ring magazine august issue)and the first fight was with collazo, and hes gonna waste #2 on urango.
the only remotely big fight at 140 would be with jlc, so that could be #3
theres other fights that would be good at 140, but i dont see many being mega fights like hbo wanted.
i gotta hunch that hattons gonna be a showtime fighter by early next year ;)
Not only that, but his most recent victory, against Ben Rahbah was a complete robbery (as has been mentioned). I watched it back when it aired on FNF and Rahbah was seriously boxing circles around Urango and urango didnt connect with ANYTHING but air 99% of the time. Think of Peter-Toney; except Urango connected with FAR fewer punches than Peter did and never hurt Rabah. Urango-Rabah was a true robbery.
I think Hatton peaked vs. Tszyu and will never be able to perform on that level again. He'll be able to do better than he did against Collazo, but I think it's really pathetic to take on Urango..that's really reaching towards the bottom of the barrel and he should be really be fighting better opponents. He's wasting his potential and his fans time. Most of the big names have moved up to 147 anyways other than and hatton has proved that he wont be able to compete on that level with any of the top 10.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree about the 140 competition that is available, I wouldn't mind seeing him face Junior Witter or D-hop,
I would think that either of those would be bigger draws than Urango. Of course JLC would be the biggest
And then he could say he beat the man that beat PBF (if he won of course)
Dude, pbf-jlc I was a close fight and saying that pbf straight out lost is nonsense. PBF won definitively in the rematch anyways.
I do agree though unless Hatton does a complete 180 that fighting castillo is the closet he's ever going to get to Floyd
You all think Urango is garbage huh? BS. And the Ben-Rabah borefest was no robbery. Neither guy did much, Ben-Rabah ran for his life, didn't try to inflict any damage on his opponent and Urango missed his share while chasing Rabah around the ring. The fight sucked and neither guy deserved to be called a World Champ afterward, IMO Urango at least tried to make it a fight and did land more than he was given credit for. Juan Urango is a southpaw slugger with serious pop and a big heart. He's not garbage. He's hasn't shown he's in the British Troll's league, granted that, but he's no bum, and will bring it. 8)
Re: How Good Can Hatton be
Hatton really is a thrill ride. He is very determined, I love to see that in a fighter. I love his ruthless stay on your chest fighting style. It’s almost like a ally way mauling . Very tough minded. and has no quit in him, no let up, no fucking breaks for his opponent , he reminds me of Wayne Mccullough only with power. its like he is going crazy deep inside before a fight, you can see that he just wants to be let off the chain so that he can attack his pray. The fucking kids a Go ! Top notch in my book ! When you make the all time great Jr. Welterweight Champion Kostya Tszyu quit, you’ve done something special. ! ;)
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Hatton really is a thrill ride. He is very determined, I love to see that in a fighter. I love his ruthless stay on your chest fighting style. It’s almost like a ally way mauling . Very tough minded. and has no quit in him, no let up, no fucking breaks for his opponent , he reminds me of Wayne Mccullough only with power. its like he is going crazy deep inside before a fight, you can see that he just wants to be let off the chain so that he can attack his pray. The fucking kids a Go ! Top notch in my book ! When you make the all time great Jr. Welterweight Champion Kostya Tszyu quit, you’ve done something special. ! ;)
Calm down son, calm down. Did you forget to take your medication again? ;D Hatton's no Tyson, or Duran. Just a very good Jr. Welterweight who also caught a few guys: Vince Phillips, Ben Tackie, Kosta Tzyu at the end of their careers. Certainly after Tzyu's KO of Mitchell he didn't appear to be slipping at all. And really physically I don't think he had very much, but mentally he had lost the hunger that had drove him when he was younger. That's what led him to quit against Hatton, that, the vicious attack of Hatton, and the shot to his nuts.
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
So who is Hatton fighting next
i think hes fighting urango or some garbage next
God I love boxrec....................
2007-01-06 Juan Urango
Juan Urango
Sex Male
Nationality Colombian
Alias Iron Twin
Birth Name Juan Fernando Urango Rivas
Global ID 214425
Federal ID FL065615
Hometown Miami, FL, USA
Birthplace Jaraquielle, Colombia
Rated at Light Welterweight
World Rank 6 / 876
Date of Birth 1980-10-04
Age 25
Reach 71
Height 5' 8
Trainer Alejandro
Manager Luis Navarro
W 17 (13 ko's) | L 0 | D 1 | Total 18
Notable wins: N/A
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Ricky Hatton
Sex Male
Nationality British
Alias The Hitman
Birth Name Richard Hatton
Global ID 009314
Hometown Manchester, England
Birthplace Stockport, England
Rated at Welterweight
World Rank 2 / 1069
Date of Birth 1978-10-06
Age 27
Reach 65”
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 6
Trainer Billy Graham
Manager Ray Hatton
W 41 (30 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 41
Notable wins: Kostya Tzsyu, Carlos Maussa, Luis Collazo
im disappointed with hatton.
hes got a 3 fight schedule with hbo that was originally designed to end with a hatton/pbf mega fight (according to ring magazine august issue)and the first fight was with collazo, and hes gonna waste #2 on urango.
the only remotely big fight at 140 would be with jlc, so that could be #3
theres other fights that would be good at 140, but i dont see many being mega fights like hbo wanted.
i gotta hunch that hattons gonna be a showtime fighter by early next year ;)
Not only that, but his most recent victory, against Ben Rahbah was a complete robbery (as has been mentioned). I watched it back when it aired on FNF and Rahbah was seriously boxing circles around Urango and urango didnt connect with ANYTHING but air 99% of the time. Think of Peter-Toney; except Urango connected with FAR fewer punches than Peter did and never hurt Rabah. Urango-Rabah was a true robbery.
I think Hatton peaked vs. Tszyu and will never be able to perform on that level again. He'll be able to do better than he did against Collazo, but I think it's really pathetic to take on Urango..that's really reaching towards the bottom of the barrel and he should be really be fighting better opponents. He's wasting his potential and his fans time. Most of the big names have moved up to 147 anyways other than and hatton has proved that he wont be able to compete on that level with any of the top 10.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree about the 140 competition that is available, I wouldn't mind seeing him face Junior Witter or D-hop,
I would think that either of those would be bigger draws than Urango. Of course JLC would be the biggest
And then he could say he beat the man that beat PBF (if he won of course)
Dude, pbf-jlc I was a close fight and saying that pbf straight out lost is nonsense. PBF won definitively in the rematch anyways.
I do agree though unless Hatton does a complete 180 that fighting castillo is the closet he's ever going to get to Floyd
You all think Urango is garbage huh? BS. And the Ben-Rabah borefest was no robbery. Neither guy did much, Ben-Rabah ran for his life, didn't try to inflict any damage on his opponent and Urango missed his share while chasing Rabah around the ring. The fight sucked and neither guy deserved to be called a World Champ afterward, IMO Urango at least tried to make it a fight and did land more than he was given credit for. Juan Urango is a southpaw slugger with serious pop and a big heart. He's not garbage. He's hasn't shown he's in the British Troll's league, granted that, but he's no bum, and will bring it. 8)
I agree with you that his fight with Rabah was no robbery. And that Urango at least tried to fight, as opposed to Rabah. But that don't change the fact that Urango is garbage. And Hatton has no business fighting him. But he is. And he'll probably underestimate him, which we'll lead to an upset. Which would thankfully, end all this Hatton talk. But sadly bring on the useless Urango talk.