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Looks like Mike Arnaoutis-Ricardo Torres on PAC/EM undercard
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2578987
junior welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto headed up to welterweight for a Dec. 2 Showtime fight, he plans to vacate his 140-pound belt. The move will clear the path for Ricardo Torres -- who pushed Cotto to the brink in a courageous defeat last September -- to face Mike Arnaoutis for the vacant title. They will probably meet Nov. 18 on the Manny Pacquiao-Erik Morales III HBO PPV undercard. Torres' promoter Top Rank and Arnaoutis' promoter Joe DeGuardia have been working on an agreement for a couple of weeks. "Certainly it is a fight we expect to take place soon, and if it turns out to be in November on HBO PPV, that would be great," DeGuardia told ESPN.com. "I think we'll end up coming to an agreement. It's good for both fighters and it's good for the promoter who's guy wins. It makes sense for all of us to make the fight." Neither fighter has gotten much work lately. Arnaoutis (17-0-2, 9 KOs), who suffered a cut in training and withdrew from a July fight with Vivian Harris, has scored three consecutive first-round knockouts since December. Torres (29-1, 27 KOs) scored a second-round knockout in June, his only bout since the seventh-round knockout loss to Cotto.
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nice undercard fight if it happens
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Re: Looks like Mike Arnaoutis-Ricardo Torres on PAC/EM undercard
oohhh....
Damn all these fights shape up at the end of the year. Least I have money this time around. Definitely getting this one, along with the MAB - Juarez card.
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oohhh....
Damn all these fights shape up at the end of the year. Least I have money this time around. Definitely getting this one, along with the MAB - Juarez card.
yeah, to be honest I wasn't all that excited about the PAC-EM fight, but I'm starting to think that Morales might be able to pull it together for one last fight, he's got too much pride to just get steamrolled early, although I do think he'll most likely get stopped late.
This fight makes the card a whole lot better overall. I'm thinking maybe Arnaoutis, thinking maybe Cotto's recklessness made Torres look a bit better than he really is, but he does seem to have a punch. Good fight for both of them, they're both way too inactive.
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Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
I think you're talking about "Mighty" Mike Anchondo
Apparently if you're name is Mike its catchy to be "Mighty"
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
I think you're talking about "Mighty" Mike Anchondo
Apparently if you're name is Mike its catchy to be "Mighty"
Arnaoutis? ooh the guy who fought Urango and lost his last 2 fights that went to decision. ok him.
Arnaoutis will get strafed by Torres and stopped in 6, thats all.
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
I think you're talking about "Mighty" Mike Anchondo
Apparently if you're name is Mike its catchy to be "Mighty"
Arnaoutis? ooh the guy who fought Urango and lost his last 2 fights that went to decision. ok him.
Arnaoutis will get strafed by Torres and stopped in 6, thats all.
His last fight that went to decision was against Marteze Logan, it wasn't that close. The Santa Cruz fight could have been scored for Santa Cruz though.
I think it will be an interesting fight, IMO Torres is overrated by most based on the Cotto fight.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
I think you're talking about "Mighty" Mike Anchondo
Apparently if you're name is Mike its catchy to be "Mighty"
Arnaoutis? ooh the guy who fought Urango and lost his last 2 fights that went to decision. ok him.
Arnaoutis will get strafed by Torres and stopped in 6, thats all.
His last fight that went to decision was against Marteze Logan, it wasn't that close. The Santa Cruz fight could have been scored for Santa Cruz though.
I think it will be an interesting fight, IMO Torres is overrated by most based on the Cotto fight.
Was the Logan fight closer then the judges had it?
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Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
I think you're talking about "Mighty" Mike Anchondo
Apparently if you're name is Mike its catchy to be "Mighty"
Arnaoutis? ooh the guy who fought Urango and lost his last 2 fights that went to decision. ok him.
Arnaoutis will get strafed by Torres and stopped in 6, thats all.
His last fight that went to decision was against Marteze Logan, it wasn't that close. The Santa Cruz fight could have been scored for Santa Cruz though.
I think it will be an interesting fight, IMO Torres is overrated by most based on the Cotto fight.
Was the Logan fight closer then the judges had it?
I think they all had it a shutout, and yes it was closer than that but it wasn't that close. I don't sit down and score it with the concentration I did like say Hopkins-Taylor 1 but I remember thinking Logan only won like 2-3 rounds at most. He didn't embarass himself but it was clear that he lost. Not a very exciting fight.
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Santa Cruz fight right?
If Cruz gets in like that then I'm sure Torres can and Torres is a harder puncher, but then again so was Urango and we don't know how either of their chins are
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Santa Cruz fight right?
If Cruz gets in like that then I'm sure Torres can and Torres is a harder puncher, but then again so was Urango and we don't know how either of their chins are
The Santa Cruz fight he was very unimpressive. Santa Cruz was the definition of akward, but still he should have looked a lot better.
Was only one performance though, I thought he was very good against Urango, I thought he was better against Urango than Ben Rabah was although I thought Rabah won the fight as well.
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Santa Cruz fight right?
If Cruz gets in like that then I'm sure Torres can and Torres is a harder puncher, but then again so was Urango and we don't know how either of their chins are
The Santa Cruz fight he was very unimpressive. Santa Cruz was the definition of akward, but still he should have looked a lot better.
Was only one performance though, I thought he was very good against Urango, I thought he was better against Urango than Ben Rabah was although I thought Rabah won the fight as well.
Yeah but the Cruz fight Cruz didnt do anything(im serious did he throw a punch?) and then Cruz cam on and was able to rush him.
Awkward was him coming out to the song love shack ;D
Like homer Simpsons "why can't we be friends" :)
Mike was supposed to fight Harris though why didnt he go after that one? And I think on that night Harris would have beat him
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This fight almost looks similar to Cotto-Paulie, hard puncher vs. boxer, but I'm not sure if Torres can go straight forward against Mike. Mike IMO seems at least 1 step ahead of Paulie not much but just slightly. Paulie showed heart but not much as far as boxing goes.
It's the cat & mouse can Torres (cat) catch up to Mike (mouse) or can the mouse set up a trap and catch himself a biggie?
Looks good on paper but well see what happens.
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This fight almost looks similar to Cotto-Paulie, hard puncher vs. boxer, but I'm not sure if Torres can go straight forward against Mike. Mike IMO seems at least 1 step ahead of Paulie not much but just slightly. Paulie showed heart but not much as far as boxing goes.
It's the cat & mouse can Torres (cat) catch up to Mike (mouse) or can the mouse set up a trap and catch himself a biggie?
Looks good on paper but well see what happens.
Paulie has better boxing skills then Arnaoutis, Mike's time to get destroyed was coming against Harris.
I don't think he'll beat Torres but we may be overrating Torres because Miguel made him look better then he is or mayhe he is, this fight will tell.
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CC Oumafan!!!!!!! this is music to my ears since ill be sitting ringsiiiiiiiiiiide at GRAND FINALE, id love to see Torres bang man i became a fan after the Cotto bout that was exciting!
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Cannot wait to see if Torres was just taking advantage of the defensive frailties of Cotto or whether he really is that dangerous,he sure is exciting!
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Cannot wait to see if Torres was just taking advantage of the defensive frailties of Cotto or whether he really is that dangerous,he sure is exciting!
CC as always bro! couldnt have said it better myself!
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BTW this is definitely on for the PAC/EM undercard, not a possibility anymore, its been signed.
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BTW this is definitely on for the PAC/EM undercard, not a possibility anymore, its been signed.
FUKKKKKKKKKK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!! its ON! now if i can only get my hands on some tickets to this wonderful event hmmmmmmmmm
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Terrible fight stylistically for Arnaoutis to take...but he get's much respect for stepping up to plate.
Torres by TKO.
Arnaoutis is being pushed up way to fast & I truly think Torres has proven that he's ready for the bigger leagues...maybe not the BIG leagues...but you get me pwoint. ;D
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Terrible fight stylistically for Arnaoutis to take...but he get's much respect for stepping up to plate.
Torres by TKO.
Arnaoutis is being pushed up way to fast & I truly think Torres has proven that he's ready for the bigger leagues...maybe not the BIG leagues...but you get me pwoint. ;D
no mr. wacko actually I dont get your point hmmmmmm maybe if i sat up close for this one like lets say i dont know in row number 7 then maybe just maybe then I could get your point, but hmmmmmmm one can only dream huh? SIGH
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Pac Morales is probably going to be the card of the year for me and Pac EM2 is still fight of the year for me,I keep forgetting to mention it though! It had so much excitement!!
As for Arnatoius-Torres,I don't much about Arnatoius except he's a boxer,decent? I know he turned the down the chance to fight Malignaggi which gave Paulie the shot at Cotto because Mike had been calling Cotto out before that. Not so loud after seeing what happened to Paulie is he? I want Torres to win,I can see the kid being a major force at 140 now that he has proven he can carry his power to the top level(v Cotto)
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I'm probably gonna favor Arnaoutis by decision
If Torres wins and looks good I'll go ahead and change my mind about him, but for now I'm sticking with my opinion that Cotto's recklessness made him look better than he really is. He is exciting though, I'll give him that.
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I'm probably gonna favor Arnaoutis by decision
If Torres wins and looks good I'll go ahead and change my mind about him, but for now I'm sticking with my opinion that Cotto's recklessness made him look better than he really is. He is exciting though, I'll give him that.
I'm with you bro, Arnaoutis by decision... but I don't think it will be easy!
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I have watched Mighty Mike Aranutis a couple of times on SHowtime, the first time I saw him I said who is this looser and ending shuting me up when he showed good boxing skills and is was fun to watch him fight but suddenly he disappear and the appear talking crap about Cotto bla blah blah.
I don't hate on him but is not the same to call the Devil than see it in front of you, so be careful
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arnaoutis should outbox him. But coming off of such a loss as he had against Barrios you got to wonder where he's mentally at.
I think you're talking about "Mighty" Mike Anchondo
Apparently if you're name is Mike its catchy to be "Mighty"
Arnaoutis? ooh the guy who fought Urango and lost his last 2 fights that went to decision. ok him.
Arnaoutis will get strafed by Torres and stopped in 6, thats all.
Swift check on boxrec eh starr ;) we all do it. :)
