yes tarver is annoying BUT
wouldnt it be great if we had more fighters like him, in tearms of who take the big fights....
if you look at the start of his career he fought a guy who was 4-0-0
then he went on to fight a few fighters who were with losing records, and a few with records such as 20-5 or 29-8, thats nothing bad.
he avenaged his first loss
and his second
and his third
and is now trying to do it to his fourth
he has had 8 title fights
been a champion, and an undisputed one
and hes only had 28 fights.
so yes he is a total cock but id like to see mroe fighters taking the same career path as him, and he probably only mouths off as much as he does , so he can get these fights, like he said recently, he hasnt had a tune up fight in so so long, and thats good to see.
so tarver you are a bastard. but well done to ya!
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hes trying avenge hes loss like he has done with every other loss and i admire him for that hes got some balls to have rematch with hopkins when hopkins schooled him bad
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Tarver is not what we need, an old guy who takes fights against other old better established fighters....Antonio Tarver is the Audley Harrison of lightheavyweight!!! Well he's not THAT bad but he's damn close, he's annoying as fuck.
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:coolclick: for the post Oakley.
I think a lot of people miss the point of Tarver based on their hatred for the man. Trust me...I loathe him.
I hate him for what he did against Jones...but Tarver is a good fighter...in hind sight.
But I think that he's done his do's in boxing...so fwockin him...let him fight Hopkins again...& let him lose badly.
I for one would love it...but it's a shame that he let his mouth ruin things.
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I don't hate him for beating Roy...that was more Roy's fault than anything...point is he didn't deserve a shot at Roy to begin with!
And even leaving that out he talked shit ALL THE TIME...after he won, after he lost, when he wakes up, in his sleep...all that ugly mother fucker does is talk shit, he's a skinny James Toney with no Talent and a Milk Dud for a head!!!
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I don't agree,I think he is an ok fighter,he got schooled in his last fight,was 1-1 with Johnson,the only real decent challenge(RJJ was pathetic in their fights except the first mabye) and considering those points,he has an awfully loud mouth. He was put in his place by B Hop,en of. Why would he want a rematch,why would Hop give him one? He has limited boxing skills too so I really don't think he is that good anyway but his personality makes him even more obnoxious!
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I don't hate him for beating Roy...that was more Roy's fault than anything...point is he didn't deserve a shot at Roy to begin with!
Actually...he was more deserving of a shot at Roy than anyone at 175lbs. He picked up Roy's titles (That Jones vacated when he moved up to fight Ruiz) by beating Griffin. He had also TKO'd Harding, another one of Jone's victims.
There was a lot of history between Jones & Tarver...& had the fight happened years ago or before Jones jumped to 199 or 200lbs...Tarver most likely woulda had his ass handed to him...but I believe that Tarver beat Jones 3 outta 3...& that's hard for me to say being a huge Jones fan.
Tarver's got talent...the problem is...he's got more mouth.
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And even leaving that out he talked S*** ALL THE TIME...after he won, after he lost, when he wakes up, in his sleep...all that ugly mother f***** does is talk S***, he's a skinny James Toney with no Talent and a Milk Dud for a head!!!
Agreed.
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i mean tarver just has a personality u love to hate. he is just annoying and abnoxious. atleast ALI was smooooooth and original, and charming, tarvers just an ugly kid who tries to hard to be smooth. after rocky flops he may seriously go on a downward spiral. its sad ::**
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i do admit he is annoying as hell but he did beat roy jones jr and you must have a skill to do that
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I don't agree,I think he is an ok fighter,he got schooled in his last fight,was 1-1 with Johnson,the only real decent challenge(RJJ was pathetic in their fights except the first mabye) and considering those points,he has an awfully loud mouth. He was put in his place by B Hop,en of. Why would he want a rematch,why would Hop give him one? He has limited boxing skills too so I really don't think he is that good anyway but his personality makes him even more obnoxious!
Actually RJJ looked a hell of a alot better during their 2nd fight, until Tarver landed that punch Jones looked much sharper and was outboxing him with ease.
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Even that thought P4P,I'm sure if I remember correctly,it literally was a lucky punch,he was looking away or had his eyes closed or something.
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I don't agree,I think he is an ok fighter,he got schooled in his last fight,was 1-1 with Johnson,the only real decent challenge(RJJ was pathetic in their fights except the first mabye) and considering those points,he has an awfully loud mouth. He was put in his place by B Hop,en of. Why would he want a rematch,why would Hop give him one? He has limited boxing skills too so I really don't think he is that good anyway but his personality makes him even more obnoxious!
Actually RJJ looked a hell of a alot better during their 2nd fight, until Tarver landed that punch Jones looked much sharper and was outboxing him with ease.
u cant say for sure if he would of outboxed him for full fight remember fight only went 2 rounds ;)
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yeah you cant really say that based on one round maybe tarver was just warming up but all in all he beat jones 2 out of 3 oh can some one post a vid of jones tarver3 of jones getting rocked :'( roy your still the best
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I would watch a million more Tarver fights, if he gets KO'd everytime........CALLING ALL 168-175 POWER PUNCHERS!!!
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Lyle i see your still a hater. :coolclick:
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I don't agree,I think he is an ok fighter,he got schooled in his last fight,was 1-1 with Johnson,the only real decent challenge(RJJ was pathetic in their fights except the first mabye) and considering those points,he has an awfully loud mouth. He was put in his place by B Hop,en of. Why would he want a rematch,why would Hop give him one? He has limited boxing skills too so I really don't think he is that good anyway but his personality makes him even more obnoxious!
Actually RJJ looked a hell of a alot better during their 2nd fight, until Tarver landed that punch Jones looked much sharper and was outboxing him with ease.
u cant say for sure if he would of outboxed him for full fight remember fight only went 2 rounds ;)
I didn't say that, but RJJ was not, "pathetic" in that fight like he said... He had a dominant first round and looked sharper than he had in the first fight.. Your right though, maybe he was just expending his energy early rather then late and paid for it, you really cant say for sure, but for my money Tarver landed a lucky punch and Jones could have beaten him easily in that shape.
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I don't agree,I think he is an ok fighter,he got schooled in his last fight,was 1-1 with Johnson,the only real decent challenge(RJJ was pathetic in their fights except the first mabye) and considering those points,he has an awfully loud mouth. He was put in his place by B Hop,en of. Why would he want a rematch,why would Hop give him one? He has limited boxing skills too so I really don't think he is that good anyway but his personality makes him even more obnoxious!
Actually RJJ looked a hell of a alot better during their 2nd fight, until Tarver landed that punch Jones looked much sharper and was outboxing him with ease.
u cant say for sure if he would of outboxed him for full fight remember fight only went 2 rounds ;)
I didn't say that, but RJJ was not, "pathetic" in that fight like he said... He had a dominant first round and looked sharper than he had in the first fight.. Your right though, maybe he was just expending his energy early rather then late and paid for it, you really cant say for sure,
but for my money Tarver landed a lucky punch and Jones could have beaten him easily in that shape.
Being a Jones fan & an admitted Tarver hater...I also view it as a lucky punch...but it was enough to do the job.
Thing is...do you think that Jones was in better shape in the second fight than he was the third?
I for one do not.
I think that Tarver has an edge on Jones mentally. I was thrilled with what he did against Badji...but he aint Tarver or even tip top...or even third tier competition...Jones next fight should be his last IWO.
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I don't agree,I think he is an ok fighter,he got schooled in his last fight,was 1-1 with Johnson,the only real decent challenge(RJJ was pathetic in their fights except the first mabye) and considering those points,he has an awfully loud mouth. He was put in his place by B Hop,en of. Why would he want a rematch,why would Hop give him one? He has limited boxing skills too so I really don't think he is that good anyway but his personality makes him even more obnoxious!
Actually RJJ looked a hell of a alot better during their 2nd fight, until Tarver landed that punch Jones looked much sharper and was outboxing him with ease.
u cant say for sure if he would of outboxed him for full fight remember fight only went 2 rounds ;)
I didn't say that, but RJJ was not, "pathetic" in that fight like he said... He had a dominant first round and looked sharper than he had in the first fight.. Your right though, maybe he was just expending his energy early rather then late and paid for it, you really cant say for sure,
but for my money Tarver landed a lucky punch and Jones could have beaten him easily in that shape.
Being a Jones fan & an admitted Tarver hater...I also view it as a lucky punch...but it was enough to do the job.
Thing is...do you think that Jones was in better shape in the second fight than he was the third?
I for one do not.
I think that Tarver has an edge on Jones mentally. I was thrilled with what he did against Badji...but he aint Tarver or even tip top...or even third tier competition...Jones next fight should be his last IWO.
Well yes and no... I think RJJ in the first Tarver fight struggled only with his physical condition, due to the weight loss... As for the 3rd fight, you already answered the question really... It's all mental, he was in fine shape. Tarver gained the mental edge on Roy after KOing him, I don't think he had that mental edge whatsoever going into the 2nd fight, and that's why Roy looked great for all of a round and a half.... Roy was totally gunshy in the 3rd fight, his physical shape didn't even come into play really he didn't have any confidence. I think the last time Roy entered the ring in great shape physically and mentally, was when Tarver KOed him.. Lucky shot or not, Ive always given Tarver credit for that KO, he ruined Roy... Coming down from Heavyweight isn't what did it, that's all Im trying to say by pointing out how good Jones looked in the 2nd Tarver fight, he wasn't permanently drained or whatever as some people think.
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Tarver tried to make a legacy off the backs of fighters who already secured their legacy rather then trying to make his own light heavyweight legacy by fighting Briggs Adameck Woods and etc
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i also agreed with wacko on tarver winning 3 out of 3 fights
