BARRERA VS. JUAREZ II isn't paperview worthy

I don't care if this is a rematch against a close fight, this fight isn't paperview worthy and the paperview sales should be pathetic for this fight. Morales and PacquiaoIII is paperview worthy but not this fight. BOO!!! Stupid fight, not worth a buy from paperview. Hbo scams people. I'm about to get rid of my hbo channels anyways, they show crap on hbo and the only thing I look forward on hbo is boxing. And for all the people spending money on the hbo channels, we don't even get that much boxing on hbo anymore. We get MEET THE FOCKERS replayed over and over again... No, almost every boxing fight goes on hbo paperview. Pathetic!!! Now, I know this is the part where rich people will come on to my topic and bad mouth me, even though I'm a paying customer for a shitty service called HBO that re-shows every show each hour.

Each to their own I guess,most of us here think that this is one of the best cards of the year for sure! All the fights have fight of the year written all over them!

U know what, u are certainly correct!!!!!!!!!! Not for pay per view.

"This is no Morales and Pacquiao III"


Even though that was kind of a given, since Pacquiao will most likely pwn morales again.

with this stellar undercard, there is no way hbo would show this for free

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with this stellar undercard, there is no way hbo would show this for free

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THEY aren't showing it for free, I'm paying for hbo's crappy service right now. Having hbo on there channel isn't free since I'm already paying for hbo. Man, I should be illegal like every other American and get a cheater box since hbo is basically being complete pricks. So, I can watch paperview for free, not all of us are rich.

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with this stellar undercard, there is no way hbo would show this for free

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THEY aren't showing it for free, I'm paying for hbo's crappy service right now. Having hbo on there channel isn't free since I'm already paying for hbo. Man, I should be illegal like every other American and get a cheater box since hbo is basically being complete pricks. So, I can watch paperview for free, not all of us are rich.

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I get what you are saying, HBO like every every major entertainment company tries to make as much profit as they possibly can. But since when has any entetainment company tried to offer value for money?

They all rip us off, charging £8 or more to get into a cinema to see a crappy movie, or charging us £15 to buy the same crappy movie on dvd after we've already paid to see it at the cinema.

Now they are charging us more money to have the same crappy movie on out PSP's or portable media players, then they will charge us yet more money for the soundtrack to the same crappy movie. Then in 30 years time, they will remake the same F****** crappy movie and charge us probably £25 to watch it at the cinema, £60 to buy it on whatever digital format they have invented for us to buy from them then and again charge us for the soundtracks, etc.


Personally I hate all of these corporatations and have pledged never to waste my money on any of their products again.

All I can say is that filesharing is a wonderful thing, yes I like that, you want me to pay? No thanks I'll just go here and download it free, F*** you very much :P



But and getting back on topic, this is actually one of the strongest cards of 2006. Three world title fights, potentially three tear ups.

If I was going to spend my money on a fight card, I would definitely consider this one :)

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Originally Posted by marineboxer

I don't care if this is a rematch against a close fight, this fight isn't paperview worthy and the paperview sales should be pathetic for this fight. Morales and PacquiaoIII is paperview worthy but not this fight. BOO!!! Stupid fight, not worth a buy from paperview. Hbo scams people. I'm about to get rid of my hbo channels anyways, they show crap on hbo and the only thing I look forward on hbo is boxing. And for all the people spending money on the hbo channels, we don't even get that much boxing on hbo anymore. We get MEET THE FOCKERS replayed over and over again... No, almost every boxing fight goes on hbo paperview. Pathetic!!! Now, I know this is the part where rich people will come on to my topic and bad mouth me, even though I'm a paying customer for a shitty service called HBO that re-shows every show each hour.

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no offense...but i dont agree with your views,
and to be honest.... they sound a bit crazy!! :P
this is one of the best cards this year...while i agree hbo will rip you off to make money i dont agree this is a bad card...
theres four great fights all talented fighters facing off and i suggest that if you give it a chance you will take it all back!! but fair enough your entitled to your first opinion...but if you have hbo ( i dont!!)
i would give it a chance....i'd be very glad if i could see the card!! so enjoy it ;)
peace

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Originally Posted by TaxanBaller

with this stellar undercard, there is no way hbo would show this for free

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THEY aren't showing it for free, I'm paying for hbo's crappy service right now. Having hbo on there channel isn't free since I'm already paying for hbo. Man, I should be illegal like every other American and get a cheater box since hbo is basically being complete pricks. So, I can watch paperview for free, not all of us are rich.

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I get what you are saying, HBO like every every major entertainment company tries to make as much profit as they possibly can. But since when has any entetainment company tried to offer value for money?

They all rip us off, charging £8 or more to get into a cinema to see a crappy movie, or charging us £15 to buy the same crappy movie on dvd after we've already paid to see it at the cinema.

Now they are charging us more money to have the same crappy movie on out PSP's or portable media players, then they will charge us yet more money for the soundtrack to the same crappy movie. Then in 30 years time, they will remake the same F****** crappy movie and charge us probably £25 to watch it at the cinema, £60 to buy it on whatever digital format they have invented for us to buy from them then and again charge us for the soundtracks, etc.


Personally I hate all of these corporatations and have pledged never to waste my money on any of their products again.

All I can say is that filesharing is a wonderful thing, yes I like that, you want me to pay? No thanks I'll just go here and download it free, F*** you very much :P



But and getting back on topic, this is actually one of the strongest cards of 2006. Three world title fights, potentially three tear ups.

If I was going to spend my money on a fight card, I would definitely consider this one :)

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I agree about the HBO SHO movie aspect and all but....I most definatlt agree on the PPV worthy aspect of this card...Complain maybe about if it was just Barrera and Juarez but this whole card is action packed

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I don't care if this is a rematch against a close fight, this fight isn't paperview worthy and the paperview sales should be pathetic for this fight. Morales and PacquiaoIII is paperview worthy but not this fight. BOO!!! Stupid fight, not worth a buy from paperview. Hbo scams people. I'm about to get rid of my hbo channels anyways, they show crap on hbo and the only thing I look forward on hbo is boxing. And for all the people spending money on the hbo channels, we don't even get that much boxing on hbo anymore. We get MEET THE FOCKERS replayed over and over again... No, almost every boxing fight goes on hbo paperview. Pathetic!!! Now, I know this is the part where rich people will come on to my topic and bad mouth me, even though I'm a paying customer for a shitty service called HBO that re-shows every show each hour.

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no offense...but i dont agree with your views,
and to be honest.... they sound a bit crazy!! :P
this is one of the best cards this year...while i agree hbo will rip you off to make money i dont agree this is a bad card...
theres four great fights all talented fighters facing off and i suggest that if you give it a chance you will take it all back!! but fair enough your entitled to your first opinion...but if you have hbo ( i dont!!)
i would give it a chance....i'd be very glad if i could see the card!! so enjoy it ;)
peace

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LOL I don't know what happened to the thread but you should have heard this guy going off about Lewis I think the name of the thread was So THIS IS BOXING.....

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Originally Posted by marineboxer

I don't care if this is a rematch against a close fight, this fight isn't paperview worthy and the paperview sales should be pathetic for this fight. Morales and PacquiaoIII is paperview worthy but not this fight. BOO!!! Stupid fight, not worth a buy from paperview. Hbo scams people. I'm about to get rid of my hbo channels anyways, they show crap on hbo and the only thing I look forward on hbo is boxing. And for all the people spending money on the hbo channels, we don't even get that much boxing on hbo anymore. We get MEET THE FOCKERS replayed over and over again... No, almost every boxing fight goes on hbo paperview. Pathetic!!! Now, I know this is the part where rich people will come on to my topic and bad mouth me, even though I'm a paying customer for a shitty service called HBO that re-shows every show each hour.

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no offense...but i dont agree with your views,
and to be honest.... they sound a bit crazy!! :P
this is one of the best cards this year...while i agree hbo will rip you off to make money i dont agree this is a bad card...
theres four great fights all talented fighters facing off and i suggest that if you give it a chance you will take it all back!! but fair enough your entitled to your first opinion...but if you have hbo ( i dont!!)
i would give it a chance....i'd be very glad if i could see the card!! so enjoy it ;)
peace

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LOL I don't know what happened to the thread but you should have heard this guy going off about Lewis I think the name of the thread was So THIS IS BOXING.....

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lol yeh bro i know!! crazy stuff ! :P
i commented on that... had to be a bit harsher on that one!! lol
lol my comment is a good ol read!! lol just dont think very much of this member to be honest...
just been dictatiing his views and speaking out of hand without explanation or reason!! lol
peace

I just don't like cowards in boxing (aka lennox lewis)

Barrera vs Juarez 2 isn't PPV worthy imo, it will be a good fight but tbh I would rather see MAB fight Pacquioa again or Pacquioa fight Morales for a 3rd time. Now that's PPV worthy!
More of a storyline behind those fights, legends fighting each other reminicent of the 80's with Duran, Hagler, Hearns and Leonard.

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I just don't like cowards in boxing (aka lennox lewis)

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you are the definition of ignorance...
you wish a terrible death on another man, who HAS earned peoples respect..
you'll never earn my respect
and yet i still dont wish death upon you....
your stil a knob thoug ;)

I think it's up for debate that any card is worthy of PPV. But compared to all the other PPV cards this year...this one has to be the best.

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I just don't like cowards in boxing (aka lennox lewis)

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you are the definition of ignorance...
you wish a terrible death on another man, who HAS earned peoples respect..
you'll never earn my respect
and yet i still dont wish death upon you....
your stil a knob thoug ;)

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Yes, I'm so ignorant /sarcasm... So, ignorant that vitali was winning on the scorecard before Lennox hit Vitali's sensitive face and the fight had to be stopped because of the bleeding. Yet, even when Vitali could only see out one eye, he was still winning on the score card... Damn... After the fight was over, Vitali challenged Lennox... Wheres Lennox at?

I don't respect cowards.

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I think it's up for debate that any card is worthy of PPV. But compared to all the other PPV cards this year...this one has to be the best.

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agreed!
i think its fair to say that its not the best....but people that are bieng totally unfair about it are expecting way to much and obviously either have not seen the lesser known yet very talented undercard fighters... or have simply not heard of them and are saying its shiz for the sake of it.

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I just don't like cowards in boxing (aka lennox lewis)

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you are the definition of ignorance...
you wish a terrible death on another man, who HAS earned peoples respect..
you'll never earn my respect
and yet i still dont wish death upon you....
your stil a knob thoug ;)

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Yes, I'm so ignorant /sarcasm... So, ignorant that vitali was winning on the scorecard before Lennox hit Vitali's sensitive face and the fight had to be stopped because of the bleeding. Yet, even when Vitali could only see out one eye, he was still winning on the score card... Damn... After the fight was over, Vitali challenged Lennox... Wheres Lennox at?

I don't respect cowards.

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lol and to you!!
you cant argue that its not fair game for lennox to win when your making mr klit sound like a puffter and saying he has a 'sensitive' face... well tough tits init!!
thats boxing.... it wasnt controversial that he was cut bad... dont make excuses just because lennox worked his cut well!!
you should respect all boxers... let alone all humans!!
he was smart ...simple as....
will you fight vitali? let alone will you fight lennox?
no?
didnt think so!! ^-^

Lennox was old. He went out on top. Hit his sensitive face? WTF?!?! This is boxing.. Sensitive faces get hit.

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Lennox was old. He went out on top. Hit his sensitive face? WTF?!?! This is boxing.. Sensitive faces get hit.

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So, if lennox wasn't a coward and could cut vitali so easy the next fight. Than why not take the big pay check if vitali is so easy to beat? Obviously the fight was a challenge for lennox, or he'd have no problem taking the fight again.

Thats what I thought!!!

I respect good boxers like.

ALI
Joe Fraiser
Joe Louis
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano

Personally I think all PPV's are a con job by the big wigs (Promo companies, HBO-SHOWTIME; etc...). PPV has ruined the popularity of boxing. Only the die hards will pay the $25 or $50 to watch the fights (and I appreciate wacko for doing it every week ;D). But for me it isnt worth it to hopefully watch a good fight. There are the rare fights that are going to be a candadate for FOY (ie Pacman/Morales) but unfortunately they too rare any more.

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Personally I think all PPV's are a con job by the big wigs (Promo companies, HBO-SHOWTIME; etc...). PPV has ruined the popularity of boxing. Only the die hards will pay the $25 or $50 to watch the fights (and I appreciate wacko for doing it every week ;D). But for me it isnt worth it to hopefully watch a good fight. There are the rare fights that are going to be a candadate for FOY (ie Pacman/Morales) but unfortunately they too rare any more.

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cc for what they call..... constructive criticism!!
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peace

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Lennox was old. He went out on top. Hit his sensitive face? WTF?!?! This is boxing.. Sensitive faces get hit.

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So, if lennox wasn't a coward and could cut vitali so easy the next fight. Than why not take the big pay check if vitali is so easy to beat? Obviously the fight was a challenge for lennox, or he'd have no problem taking the fight again.

Thats what I thought!!!

I respect good boxers like.

ALI
Joe Fraiser
Joe Louis
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano

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He just wanted to retire. He has plenty of money. Marciano only had 8 defenses don't give me that. Foreman dropped all his belts instead of facing mandatories after he beat Moorer. Louis had bigtime money problems and everyone knows that Ali stuck around to long.

Lewis would have been 39 by the time for a rematch. He more then earned the right to retire.

And look at the other side of the equation, Vitali is retired at a much younger age yet he will only come out of retirement for Lewis. If Rahman was such a bum, why wouldn't he take the PPV money and face him?

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT. Please.....

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Lennox was old. He went out on top. Hit his sensitive face? WTF?!?! This is boxing.. Sensitive faces get hit.

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So, if lennox wasn't a coward and could cut vitali so easy the next fight. Than why not take the big pay check if vitali is so easy to beat? Obviously the fight was a challenge for lennox, or he'd have no problem taking the fight again.

Thats what I thought!!!

I respect good boxers like.

ALI
Joe Fraiser
Joe Louis
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano

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He just wanted to retire. He has plenty of money. Marciano only had 8 defenses don't give me that. Foreman dropped all his belts instead of facing mandatories after he beat Moorer. Louis had bigtime money problems and everyone knows that Ali stuck around to long.

Lewis would have been 39 by the time for a rematch. He more then earned the right to retire.

And look at the other side of the equation, Vitali is retired at a much younger age yet he will only come out of retirement for Lewis. If Rahman was such a bum, why wouldn't he take the PPV money and face him?

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT. Please.....

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Owned............Next!

Damn karma won't let me amat, I owe you another in 24!

Dudes...
... Barrera could lose tonight, so that to me is worthy of a ppv. heh Not this Rahman Maskeav bullshyte. ;D

I never root for Barrera, I'm a Morales fan. BUT tonight I think I'm going to break my rule. Rocky is a damn ingrate. heheh :D

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Lennox was old. He went out on top. Hit his sensitive face? WTF?!?! This is boxing.. Sensitive faces get hit.

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So, if lennox wasn't a coward and could cut vitali so easy the next fight. Than why not take the big pay check if vitali is so easy to beat? Obviously the fight was a challenge for lennox, or he'd have no problem taking the fight again.

Thats what I thought!!!

I respect good boxers like.

ALI
Joe Fraiser
Joe Louis
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano

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Where do you get all this Lewis is a coward stuff???...Bowe threw his title away not to face him...Lennox steeped in and beat all challengers in his reign...His two losses he rematched so he proves there he wasn't scard...His chin was questionable yes but both times his rematch wins went all the way in his favor...He dismantaled Rahman....He beat Tyson...Not a prime Tyson but Lewis is also older than Tyson and while mike sat in club Fed Lewis defended his belt....He fought Klitschko...Vitaly was a wreck...Both were tired...Vitaly ahead on the cards yes but Lewis was also starting to control the fight ( An ugly performence on both sides)...Lewis did what few have the common sense to do retire with his wits about him go out with a win and the title on his waist....He needed no money so the payday ment nothing....
Klitschko was a fine fighter to take over the division...He feared no one...And was getting better..He hit like a sledgehammer and was improving defensively. He could have reigned for quite sometime...I am not a big fan of either but facts are facts...You can not take what the man did away no matter how much you would like to....And you can not try to belittle Klitschko for pulling out when injured...Why risk the rest of his life in pain every day?? Try to treat it now...He has money...Held the world title...The guy has a PHD for gosh sake...Lighten up buddy...
There are a lot of very knoweldgeable guys on these boards and everyone here knows there stuff.....all the ranting in the world wont change that.....



ARE YOU RIDDICK BOWE?????....... ??? ::**......THE WHOLE MARINE THING SHOULD HAVE TIPPED ME OFF.....

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Lennox was old. He went out on top. Hit his sensitive face? WTF?!?! This is boxing.. Sensitive faces get hit.

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So, if lennox wasn't a coward and could cut vitali so easy the next fight. Than why not take the big pay check if vitali is so easy to beat? Obviously the fight was a challenge for lennox, or he'd have no problem taking the fight again.

Thats what I thought!!!

I respect good boxers like.

ALI
Joe Fraiser
Joe Louis
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano

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Where do you get all this Lewis is a coward stuff???...Bowe threw his title away not to face him...Lennox steeped in and beat all challengers in his reign...His two losses he rematched so he proves there he wasn't scard...His chin was questionable yes but both times his rematch wins went all the way in his favor...He dismantaled Rahman....He beat Tyson...Not a prime Tyson but Lewis is also older than Tyson and while mike sat in club Fed Lewis defended his belt....He fought Klitschko...Vitaly was a wreck...Both were tired...Vitaly ahead on the cards yes but Lewis was also starting to control the fight ( An ugly performence on both sides)...Lewis did what few have the common sense to do retire with his wits about him go out with a win and the title on his waist....He needed no money so the payday ment nothing....
Klitschko was a fine fighter to take over the division...He feared no one...And was getting better..He hit like a sledgehammer and was improving defensively. He could have reigned for quite sometime...I am not a big fan of either but facts are facts...You can not take what the man did away no matter how much you would like to....And you can not try to belittle Klitschko for pulling out when injured...Why risk the rest of his life in pain every day?? Try to treat it now...He has money...Held the world title...The guy has a PHD for gosh sake...Lighten up buddy...
There are a lot of very knoweldgeable guys on these boards and everyone here knows there stuff.....all the ranting in the world wont change that.....



ARE YOU RIDDICK BOWE?????....... ??? ::**......THE WHOLE MARINE THING SHOULD HAVE TIPPED ME OFF.....

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haha cc in 24 amigo!!
speaking of lennox revenging his defeats!! have you seen the second fight where he avenged his whooping from mccall and mcall is doing loadsa wierd shit and wlking away and crying and shit!! its strange bless lewis at some point he looked like he didnt have the heart to whoop the guy....
my man says its cos mccall was cracked up and was going loopy at the time!! lol
peace

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I don't care if this is a rematch against a close fight, this fight isn't paperview worthy and the paperview sales should be pathetic for this fight. Morales and PacquiaoIII is paperview worthy but not this fight. BOO!!! Stupid fight, not worth a buy from paperview. Hbo scams people. I'm about to get rid of my hbo channels anyways, they show crap on hbo and the only thing I look forward on hbo is boxing. And for all the people spending money on the hbo channels, we don't even get that much boxing on hbo anymore. We get MEET THE FOCKERS replayed over and over again... No, almost every boxing fight goes on hbo paperview. Pathetic!!! Now, I know this is the part where rich people will come on to my topic and bad mouth me, even though I'm a paying customer for a shitty service called HBO that re-shows every show each hour.

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Without that shitty service...you wouldn't be seeing great fights & we wouldn't be hearing this crying.

The card's got more than Barrera on it...in case you hadn't noticed.

It's worth the cash...but that's my opinion...& in the end...it's probably about as valueable to HBO as yours is...& you know why?

Because...in the end...your'e payin. ;D

Not worthy of a PPV? Damn right! Nothing's worthy of a pay per view! In a perfect world this stuff would all be on boradcast!

I don't enjoy shelling out to see a fight but give them credit here: this was probably the best card top to bottom to come out in a while.

As for the main event, it was competitive and contriversial the first time and had the makings of a historically significant action fight.

/worth it this time

Well the last spectacular 3 fight card Golden boy had they showed the Mosley replay and the Barerra replay. I hope they replay all 3