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I know this Topic is a very delicated one and alot people talk BS about everything but this guy has done his homework and gives us his point of view with is very interesting and convincing. please post you opinios over this video because im' stunt REALLY!!
http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/112264/the_truth_about_9_11_and_wtc_loose_change_part_2_o f_3.swf
this is the same documentary i watched and its very convincing i saw slow mo of that object hitting pentagon and it looked like missle ill try find it for u
I lost interest when he compared a plane skimming a desert floor to a plane hitting a solid reenforced concrete wall...
No Shock wave? why do you fucking think?
I really think the conspiracy theory junk is disrespectful....why not say The US caused Pearl Harbor too? It pisses me off is what it does...you guys have fun in fantasy land, tell me when you get back
some of it though has interesting and strong arguement it isnt all junk..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
personally i think its wank made by people looking for things that just aint there... very well put together but clutching at straws...
if a plane crashed into my house there would be explosions afterwards... id be more supprised if there wasnt explosions.
as for the ground floor...
take a stick and put it in the ground and kick the top of the stick... the part in the ground gets the main force of movments.
the people who made the steel claimed it should have tood the blast... WOW i wonder why ::**
all in all intresting video but for me it dosnt prove anything except if you have an official sounding voice like the guy narrating you can make anything sound like fact ;)
i see video just before it crashed into pentagon and it looked like missle i paused it where i could see it and it looked just like missle did u see slow mo with detenation in twin towers something is fishy about it even people inside bulding were saying it was like bombs in building plus there were unauthorized people inside twin towers about week before it happened sent by none other than bushs brother plus twin towers people didnt know about these *new* so called people going in twin towers i think some of it is bs but not all of it by any means
If it was that easy to place bombs in a building that runs 24/7... why wouldn't the goverment just say Terrorists planted the bombs in the building?
Why would they throw planes into the equation just to complicate things for them selves?
well because it would look even more suspect wouldnt it they even were saying that they have remote control planes or something like that i dont believe it all by any means but i do believe some of itQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
...did you not account for how jet fuel spewing out of a wrecked plane reacts???
That's the "Loose Change" film....which is pretty convincing and "entertaining" but it takes about two seconds to find a host of sites debunking the shit out of it....thats why they have to keep changing/updating it.
There was a UK film about Pearl HarboUr recently, and I understand that there were no Americans there. It was the British who were sneakily attacked after years of American meddling in the Far East, I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
We then went on to win the war on our own.
;D
What would be more suspect about it?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
BANG!
And then faked evidence such as CCTV footage is shown of what ever and the blame for the lapse in sercurity goes on security staff who died in the tower...
If we beleive they could take over a plane and bring weapons past airport security, a building important to national security then some how placing explosives in a Comercial building that has 100000s or people and equipment moving in and out of it every day doesn't seem as unbeleivable does it?
We are talking about the most powerfull goverment in teh world with the world's largest economy, why would they go to 'Budget conspiracys R us'?
Loose change is a load of crap... as with this documentry... the second they raised to point about Jet Fuel not burning hot enough to melt Steel I turned it off...
Does a steel structure that has had a Jet weighing tens of tonnes flying into it really have to be liquified before it collapses?
It didn't have to be even half way near melting point for a failure in the structure to happen.
If you find it so unbelievable about 911 being more than planes and fires knocking them down, check out the info about Oklahoma City.
How do you explain news reports by bomb squads saying they diffused multiple devices inside the building. But the next day, it was just one bomb, and it was outside, and it split the building in half.
Just think critically and see what happens. Put the same amount of scrutiny into the "official" version as the conspiracy. You might be suprised by what you come out with.
i totally agree i dont think these guys have seen it all i would of never thought it was believebale until i see documentaryQuote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Yeah and of COURSE Katrina ...Spike Lee knows the Government blew up levees to drown black people. What a fuckin jackass. I guess we WANTED a top port city destroyed...yeah got too black for us Spike, sorry big guy
Lyle,
Do you always agree that a fight is going the way the HBO crew commentates? Often they have a slant and use very descriptive words when describing one fighters punch, and plain words when describing the others. If you don't see the fight yourself, and only read their description you would believe what they presented to you. You have got to see for yourself. Don't just believe the "official" version because you think the others are "conspiracy" nuts. If you examine evidence you will find that most of the time the "official" version is garbage. Again don't be gullible. Scrutinize both.
Why would America do that? I know Spike Lee likes to bring up the Tuskeegee Experiment, yeah woohoo there was a lot wrong in the world in the 40's what does it have to do with New Orleans
Why would America sabatoge it's own port city? Were we slow to respond? YES! Were we stupid? YES on all levels Citizens all the way up to the President
Usually the why has to do with implementing some new law to "protect" us. I don't have an opinion on the katrina issue cause I haven't really looked into it.
I can tell you for certain that oklahoma city, and 911 were not "terrorist" attacks. And part of the "why" for 911 was to federalize the airports. It's about control.
What's your opinion on the "patriot act"?
I am not in favor of some of it but I can't say I have really been affected by it.
The airports were already federalized bro, FAA, Federal Aviation Administration...doesn't get clearer than that
That was all paper work and laws, the patriot act put armed government employees in the airports. Making us "secure" by frisking you and making sure you don't take fingernail clippers on the plane.
I've flown recently I don't mind it ....I wasn't hijacked...should I have had the right to be hijacked???
I was never hijacked prior to this law either. The frequency of hijackings is extremely remote, and especially using pen knives and fingernail clippers. Considering you have the right to smoke cigarettes which kill approximately
440,000 per year, 36,666 per month, 8,461 per week, 1,205 per day, 50 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.
I would assume that you have the right to be hijacked. :-X
Why do you need lighters, fingernail clippers, and so on when traveling on a plane anyways? Do you give yourself pedacures on the plane???
Well, I may need my machete to behead infidels.
What if I get a splinter? Should I risk it entering my bloodstream and dying because I couldn't remove it? What if you get one of those hangnails and it's driving me crazy and I have a 6 hour flight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
1) Planes aren't made out of wood
2) Use your teeth
Those guys who made the documentery are morons , its not like its some mystery as to what happened that horrible day, plenty of camera’s caught what happened, hell I was watching live T.V and saw with my own eyes ! Plus the culprits admitted to doing it ! I think people saying the U.S was behind that ,are absolute Morons ! An example of ignorance at an un imaginable level !
;) LMFAO !
lords i think ur cool guy but watch documentary ir be suprised i would of never thought it was possible id be saying what u guys have been saying but after watching it made me open my eyes some very strong points in documentary u need to watch itQuote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
I was watching a documentary about Oklahoma City Bombing ,Apparently there was a meeting in Oklahoma City theweekend before the bombing , which took place at the Convention Center by "Radical Muslim Extremist" preaching the destruction of America , A Huge turnout , A local reporter covering the event apparently called law enforcement with his concerns. and was shrugged off. Typical Democrat push everything under the rug and ignore the threat type of thinking, the Clinton administration with their weak ass don't do anything crap . . I got to tell you, when it comes to military and decisive action I am Republican to the core !Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Man my piss got hot watching that show !
>:mad
Go to this site, and watch these vids.
http://www.lonelantern.org/collection.html
911 - In Plane Site Directors Cut Part 1
911 - In Plane Site Directors Cut Part 2
It is comprised of mainstream media clips showing multiple explosions. Testimony of people saying there were bombs going off everywhere etc...
I know who did the plane's but this is clearly was more than planes but do know nothing of that, Been an extreme fanatic can deceive people
Loosechange was originally a fictional movie:
Dylan Avery, the creator of loose change was an aspiring screenwriter and originally wrote this film as a Fictional Screenplay. He described it as “sort of an X-files episode.”
With no money to film his own movie, he started cutting together video and photos off the Internet, creatively editing them to make them scary and ominous, cutting the visuals to fit the story, making a fake documentary.
The film is filled with screen grabs of newspaper headlines that mention things like missing planes and bombs at the World Trade Center, all coming from the American Free Press: A Neo-Nazi newsletter obsessed with the Zionist takeover of the world
But then...
Conspiracy buff Phillip Jayhan (who is famous for claiming the world is run by a massive satanic cult that enslaves prominent politicians by delivering kidnapped boys for them to molest ) Offered to pay for the distribution of the movie.
Only, the thing is, Jayhan didn't think it was fiction. Jayhan, who believed in every available conspiracy prior to 9/11, believes that the WTC planes had missiles on them that were fired at the towers and that's why they fell down. Oh, and also there were bombs in the towers. Or something.
Avery, realizing the financial future of his film and his dreams of fame and fortune lie entirely in selling Loose Change as a factual documentary, miraculously discovers that, in fact, the plot behind 9/11 is real.
This movie has proven to be Dylan Avery’s greatest success. Now, at age 22, Avery is doing four or five interviews a day with the likes of Salon and TIME magazine and dozens of talk radio shows.
LMFAO ! Phillip Jayhan might be on too something therewith the politicans ! ;D ! LMFAO ! I never heard of such a thing. LMFAO ! this world is really fucked ! ;D Cool Click for the read !Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
I'm not a conspiracy fanatic but All I know that buildings do not fall like that by fire in the top floors as Lord Gym knows I'm in engineering and I know that I'm not the best one out there but a lot of my colleagues from Civil engineering can't believe it neither that that day 2 buildings fall because of fire cause by jet fuel in the top levels and another one near because of gas tanks. it would be more believable if they didn't fall the 3 buildings as perfect as they did down. I don't if they where aliens, Alaska people( I know the are US), Cubans, people from Antartica or even the US what ever is very difficult to swallow.
Well we all know politicians are satanic bastards, that goes to prove the Phillip Jayhan theory correct , I don't know about the rest though ! LMFAO ;D I really enjoy these reads ! great stuff, CC for everyone, !
I just saw the movie 'Loose Change' which is where that is from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
Like Farenheit 9/11 it's a interesting film but nothing more then that, we will never REALLY what happend. Same way we will never really know who shot JFK.
I did notice something funny about this 'Loose Change' movie and thats that it used 'Wikepedia' as a reliable source. ??? Last time I checked anyone can create a file/article using Wikepedia.
i think your correct, anyone can creat a reality on wikepediaQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
;D I notice that :P but about the video fuck it it's just the images and fact that the buildings collapse that's all to me not the investigation at all. I have in tape from local news from when that happend and I can see exactly what the the guy in the video focuse on and it makes SOME sense, the others stuff because no one knows the true is like a PEter Pan story for me.
So to me when I saw that I was like what? As it was I was watching it with a 'fuck it' mentality. Once I saw and heard 'Wikipedia' I laughed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym