The Mayweather Myth

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

Well i think pbf has more power than people think. You don't stop 24 professionals without any power. I also believe that you don't see the power because he doesn't fight a power fight he fights a speed fight. He doesn't load up on punches cause hes trying to get it there as fast as possibly. if he sat down on his punches more he would probably have more kos.
As far a baldy goes i don't think power matters. This will be a skill fight. Even though zab lost he was tagging him easy in the first half. Floyd will catch even more and he won't lose focus. Plus i don't think baldy is gonna be able to hit him with anything effective. Gatti was doin a good job of avoiding his punches in the first half. If the defenseless gatti can do that what do you think floyd will do. I think baldy is just too slow.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Yea 24 Ko's out of 36 fights you are right he has no power ::** Yes Floyd dosent load up and possess 1 punch KO power...I absolutely agree with you, but Floyd is an accumalative puncher who's speed and accuracy demoralizes and punishes the absolute Piss out of his opponents, so there is no Myth about his laser like shots that dissect his opponents and pound them into submission until they fall or there corner bails them out by throwing in the towel.

Let me ask you an honest Question Would you rather have me punch you in the face and have you be Knocked out for a few minutes?? or would you like to be repeatedly stung by a swarm of angry bee's for 6,8,10,12 rounds

Just cause he isin't you prototypical KO artist dosent mean his power is a Myth... He is the Complete Package of Speed, Power, Skills, Smarts, Defense, Poise and Maturity in the ring.. He is like Boxings Ultimate Predator

The Kid has it all...

Yup, he might not be among the most powerful punchers today but he's among the more, if not the most, well-balanced package of fighters. As long as he gets his job done, I guess it doesn't matter much. But of course, it would have been much better if he had a bigger punch, he'd be an undisputed top P4P then, and would've taken on Margarito any time, IMO.

Many fighters including CHICO said they were shocked to see how hard PBF hits.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Let me ask you an honest Question Would you rather have me punch you in the face and have you be Knocked out for a few minutes?? or would you like to be repeatedly stung by a swarm of angry bee's for 6,8,10,12 rounds

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Honestly, if it was you... Id rather take your best shot ;D But I can't say I'd rather take Hearns right hand then have Floyd beat on me for any amount of time. Not that I could stand up to it but hypothetically being KO'ed is always the worst, Floyd does have accumulative pop in his punches but he isn't a power puncher who can badly hurt anyone at welter. Id be shocked if Baldomir didn't last the distance honestly.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Let me ask you an honest Question Would you rather have me punch you in the face and have you be Knocked out for a few minutes?? or would you like to be repeatedly stung by a swarm of angry bee's for 6,8,10,12 rounds

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Honestly, if it was you... Id rather take your best shot ;D But I can't say I'd rather take Hearns right hand then have Floyd beat on me for any amount of time. Not that I could stand up to it but hypothetically being KO'ed is always the worst, Floyd does have accumulative pop in his punches but he isn't a power puncher who can badly hurt anyone at welter. Id be shocked if Baldomir didn't last the distance honestly.

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You sure??? I'm a monster for my weight and have big side Muscles....LOL!!

When u got PBF's speed and brittle hands why would you load your shots?

The only reason is if you move up in weight and fight stronger opponents ;D

I' am honestly looking forward to his next fight more than I was for Judah and Gatti!! I expected to hear booing from the croud against Judah and Gatti was always going to get his clock cleaned.

Though many of you may know how I feel about 'Pretty Girl' if it's one thing I don't hack at it's his boxing skills. In that dept. Hes 2nd to none.


Opposition, Fight #1 against JLC, avoiding Margarito, fighting Mitchelle (not a welter) for his 1st fight at welter. Thats another story. :)

Just because a person does not wind up and try just one knock out punch doesn't mean he doesn't have power. It's not how Mayweather fights, he's a smart fighter. He picks his spots and defends.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Though many of you may know how I feel about 'Pretty Girl' if it's one thing I don't hack at it's his boxing skills. In that dept. Hes 2nd to none.


Opposition, Fight #1 against JLC, avoiding Margarito, fighting Mitchelle (not a welter) for his 1st fight at welter. Thats another story. :)

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Fight 1 against Castillo was hella close, he probably did lose by a round or so, but he easily beat him in an immediate rematch, don't see how anyone can hack Floyd for that, and it wouldn't really make a difference if he had gotten the L and then avenged it,he's still beat everyone he's faced.. And avoiding Margarito, please.. Margarito is avoiding the oppourtunity to earn his shot at the best, the old fashioned way and relying on ppl who will hype him up like you. Fighting Mitchell, yeah that was pretty weak.

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Though many of you may know how I feel about 'Pretty Girl' if it's one thing I don't hack at it's his boxing skills. In that dept. Hes 2nd to none.


Opposition, Fight #1 against JLC, avoiding Margarito, fighting Mitchelle (not a welter) for his 1st fight at welter. Thats another story. :)

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Fight 1 against Castillo was hella close, he probably did lose by a round or so, but he easily beat him in an immediate rematch, don't see how anyone can hack Floyd for that, and it wouldn't really make a difference if he had gotten the L and then avenged it,he's still beat everyone he's faced.. And avoiding Margarito, please.. Margarito is avoiding the oppourtunity to earn his shot at the best, the old fashioned way and relying on ppl who will hype him up like you. Fighting Mitchell, yeah that was pretty weak.

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If a date was set, a venue was put aside, a hotel room & a limo to pick the winner up and drop him off was set.
The winner of the PBF-ZAB fight was called out on Nat'l. T.V. the money was more then right considering he fought Mitchelle for a lot less.
He (PBF) wins the fight then takes another route avoiding? ? I'd like to think so.

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Though many of you may know how I feel about 'Pretty Girl' if it's one thing I don't hack at it's his boxing skills. In that dept. Hes 2nd to none.


Opposition, Fight #1 against JLC, avoiding Margarito, fighting Mitchelle (not a welter) for his 1st fight at welter. Thats another story. :)

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Fight 1 against Castillo was hella close, he probably did lose by a round or so, but he easily beat him in an immediate rematch, don't see how anyone can hack Floyd for that, and it wouldn't really make a difference if he had gotten the L and then avenged it,he's still beat everyone he's faced.. And avoiding Margarito, please.. Margarito is avoiding the oppourtunity to earn his shot at the best, the old fashioned way and relying on ppl who will hype him up like you. Fighting Mitchell, yeah that was pretty weak.

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If a date was set, a venue was put aside, a hotel room & a limo to pick the winner up and drop him off was set.
The winner of the PBF-ZAB fight was called out on Nat'l. T.V. the money was more then right considering he fought Mitchelle for a lot less.
He (PBF) wins the fight then takes another route avoiding? ? I'd like to think so.

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why would he fight margarito (who was recently beat by santos) instead of the linear welterweight champion baldomir (who has done more in the last year than margarito has done in his whole career) for the same money?

you can sit there and argue about gatti and judah being shot, but both of them are better than anyone margarito has ever stepped in the ring with, let alone lost to.

how long has it been since margarito lost?
how about baldomir?


and as far as the challenge issued saying that margarito gets the winner of mayweather/judah, i hope youre not an oscar delahoya fan because in case you forgot, he said recently that if he ever fought again, it would be mayweather.

then i see you on some other thread giving oscar all the praise in the world for trying to call trinidad out of retirement instead of fighting mayweather ::**


sometimes in the sport, an opprutunity is presented, then something better comes along ;)

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Though many of you may know how I feel about 'Pretty Girl' if it's one thing I don't hack at it's his boxing skills. In that dept. Hes 2nd to none.


Opposition, Fight #1 against JLC, avoiding Margarito, fighting Mitchelle (not a welter) for his 1st fight at welter. Thats another story. :)

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Fight 1 against Castillo was hella close, he probably did lose by a round or so, but he easily beat him in an immediate rematch, don't see how anyone can hack Floyd for that, and it wouldn't really make a difference if he had gotten the L and then avenged it,he's still beat everyone he's faced.. And avoiding Margarito, please.. Margarito is avoiding the oppourtunity to earn his shot at the best, the old fashioned way and relying on ppl who will hype him up like you. Fighting Mitchell, yeah that was pretty weak.

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If a date was set, a venue was put aside, a hotel room & a limo to pick the winner up and drop him off was set.
The winner of the PBF-ZAB fight was called out on Nat'l. T.V. the money was more then right considering he fought Mitchelle for a lot less.
He (PBF) wins the fight then takes another route avoiding? ? I'd like to think so.

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why would he fight margarito (who was recently beat by santos) instead of the linear welterweight champion baldomir (who has done more in the last year than margarito has done in his whole career) for the same money?

you can sit there and argue about gatti and judah being shot, but both of them are better than anyone margarito has ever stepped in the ring with, let alone lost to.

how long has it been since margarito lost?
how about baldomir?


and as far as the challenge issued saying that margarito gets the winner of mayweather/judah, i hope youre not an oscar delahoya fan because in case you forgot, he said recently that if he ever fought again, it would be mayweather.

then i see you on some other thread giving oscar all the praise in the world for trying to call trinidad out of retirement instead of fighting mayweather ::**

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But fighting ZAB who had a piece of issh! belt that the IBF let him have since Baldomir didn't give them their share of the pie is OK. ::**

Why didn't he fight Margarito after Mitchelle?
I don't hack him for fighting Baldomir. I hack him for having the oppourtunity to fight a TRUE welter. whom at least is ranked among the best in that div. and not just recently cuz hes been at top for a minute now.

Well if you did read my post then you forgot to mention that I also said since PBF has been running his mouth about Margarito needs me, I bring the money, Hatton needs me I bring the money, I'am the man.

Well guess what? He want's ODLH good, cause ODLH don't need him ODLH brings the money, PBF needs ODLH more then ODLH....... Nevermind that ODLH don't need nobody he sells out arenas on his own. He brings the money hes the man.

Karmas a bbbbyyyyooooooottttcccchhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Right PBF?

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Though many of you may know how I feel about 'Pretty Girl' if it's one thing I don't hack at it's his boxing skills. In that dept. Hes 2nd to none.


Opposition, Fight #1 against JLC, avoiding Margarito, fighting Mitchelle (not a welter) for his 1st fight at welter. Thats another story. :)

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Fight 1 against Castillo was hella close, he probably did lose by a round or so, but he easily beat him in an immediate rematch, don't see how anyone can hack Floyd for that, and it wouldn't really make a difference if he had gotten the L and then avenged it,he's still beat everyone he's faced.. And avoiding Margarito, please.. Margarito is avoiding the oppourtunity to earn his shot at the best, the old fashioned way and relying on ppl who will hype him up like you. Fighting Mitchell, yeah that was pretty weak.

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If a date was set, a venue was put aside, a hotel room & a limo to pick the winner up and drop him off was set.
The winner of the PBF-ZAB fight was called out on Nat'l. T.V. the money was more then right considering he fought Mitchelle for a lot less.
He (PBF) wins the fight then takes another route avoiding? ? I'd like to think so.

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why would he fight margarito (who was recently beat by santos) instead of the linear welterweight champion baldomir (who has done more in the last year than margarito has done in his whole career) for the same money?

you can sit there and argue about gatti and judah being shot, but both of them are better than anyone margarito has ever stepped in the ring with, let alone lost to.

how long has it been since margarito lost?
how about baldomir?


and as far as the challenge issued saying that margarito gets the winner of mayweather/judah, i hope youre not an oscar delahoya fan because in case you forgot, he said recently that if he ever fought again, it would be mayweather.

then i see you on some other thread giving oscar all the praise in the world for trying to call trinidad out of retirement instead of fighting mayweather ::**

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But fighting ZAB who had a piece of issh! belt that the IBF let him have since Baldomir didn't give them their share of the pie is OK. ::**
Why didn't he fight Margarito after Mitchelle?
I don't hack him for fighting Baldomir. I hack him for having the oppourtunity to fight a TRUE welter. whom at least is ranked among the best in that div. and not just recently cuz hes been at top for a minute now.

Well if you did read my post then you forgot to mention that I also said since PBF has been running his mouth about Margarito needs me, I bring the money, Hatton needs me I bring the money, I'am the man.

Well guess what? He want's ODLH good, cause ODLH don't need him ODLH brings the money, PBF needs ODLH more then ODLH....... Nevermind that ODLH don't need nobody he sells out arenas on his own. He brings the money hes the man.

Karmas a bbbbyyyyooooooottttcccchhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Right PBF?

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i know we went about this before, and right after we did it was confirmed

the judah fight was ALREADY SIGNED before judah fought baldomir......

shortly after we had this debate (where you said it was impossible, or something) somebody (i think wacko) posted an article about baldomir where baldomir said that pbf was underestimating him by having the judah fight signed BEFORE judah fought baldomir.....

im pretty sure it was wacko who posted it, ask him about it, it wasnt too long ago.
ill look in the meantime

trust me mick, that fight was a done deal before judah fought baldomir...

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Hmmmm, i agree ;)

I fear that Floyd is endevouring to emulate what Oscar has done in his career. What with the history within the camps. Floyd wishes to be the greatest fighter of all time, hence the weight moves. Now in that i dont know if Mayweather has the strength to defend against a fully blown welter/lightmiddle. In fact i believe he has, and would, have trouble with the power of lightwelter's over the period of a fight, Castillo, Hatton for example.

Now dont get me wrong, Floyd is one of the most gifted boxers of our generation...... but he is beatable.... And i believe now he is making his way through the divisions, and impressively picking up titles ( admitidley against weak opposition ), this is when he will get caught out. It may not be aginst Baldy, but he has to fight a hungry, young fighter, just like himself soon!

I have read somewhere else Floyd is sparring against super middleweights, is this a wise move?

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Remember when Mitchell and Hatton where on the same card?? At that point, I really thought that he would have given Hatton problems. Of course i didn't know what he would have done to KOsta. What do you all think if a Hatton/Mitchell fight had taken place that night or a year before?

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Power is not everything...outboxing every one of the men that you & many others neglect or have neglected to mention such as Hernandez, Chavez, Judah, Corley, Castillo, Augustu, Juuko, & Manfredo...well...that say's a lot.

Then again...it's all in what you/me/he/she as a fan needs as a fighter.

Again...to some...power is not everything.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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He has power. He just dosen't have great one punch knock out power. But how many fighters do? Anyway, Floyds game ain't based on power. What it's based on, Baldomir has no answer for. Mayweather by complete shut out.

PBF definetly has enough power to make a fighter respect him in the ring. people said he had no power when he moved up to 135. no he didn't stop castillo but that doesn't mean you don't have power. he stopped ndou before moving up to 140. when he said he was moving up to 140 people said he doen't have the power to keep a 140pounder of him,yet he everybody he fought at 140 hit the canvas at some point during there fight with PBF.

PBF speed will stop Baldomir. if judah wasn't such and idiot we wouldn't even be talkin about baldomir right now.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

He has power. He just dosen't have great one punch knock out power. But how many fighters do? Anyway, Floyds game ain't based on power. What it's based on, Baldomir has no answer for. Mayweather by complete shut out.

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:coolclick: 188.

While I agree with your opinion...I don't know about Baldo lsoing by shut out...I think that we all get a shocker again...but not a knockout from Baldo.

I think that FLoyd will win...but it's gonna be Baldo from round 1 to 12 & a hard fought decision.

Actually,I have heard numerous times that PBF has more pop in his punches than it looks and he has a good KO ratio,so he must hit fairly hard! I remember JLC said in an interview after the second fight that PBF hurt him with one of his right hands,coming from JLC,that is impressive! The only thing you can blame Floyd for is he jumps into his punches at times and lands on heads/foreheads and breaks his hands,wish he didn't do that!!!

Also,his game is not bsed purely around power,he has everything else too like speed,skill etc IF he had 1 punch power,it would not be fair!!!!

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Let me ask you an honest Question Would you rather have me punch you in the face and have you be Knocked out for a few minutes?? or would you like to be repeatedly stung by a swarm of angry bee's for 6,8,10,12 rounds

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Honestly, if it was you... Id rather take your best shot ;D But I can't say I'd rather take Hearns right hand then have Floyd beat on me for any amount of time. Not that I could stand up to it but hypothetically being KO'ed is always the worst, Floyd does have accumulative pop in his punches but he isn't a power puncher who can badly hurt anyone at welter. Id be shocked if Baldomir didn't last the distance honestly.

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That is exacty what im saying. he has sup par power to be a huge threat at Welterweight against top opponents

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Hmmmm, i agree ;)

I fear that Floyd is endevouring to emulate what Oscar has done in his career. What with the history within the camps. Floyd wishes to be the greatest fighter of all time, hence the weight moves. Now in that i dont know if Mayweather has the strength to defend against a fully blown welter/lightmiddle. In fact i believe he has, and would, have trouble with the power of lightwelter's over the period of a fight, Castillo, Hatton for example.

Now dont get me wrong, Floyd is one of the most gifted boxers of our generation...... but he is beatable.... And i believe now he is making his way through the divisions, and impressively picking up titles ( admitidley against weak opposition ), this is when he will get caught out. It may not be aginst Baldy, but he has to fight a hungry, young fighter, just like himself soon!

I have read somewhere else Floyd is sparring against super middleweights, is this a wise move?

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Well said. Have a :coolclick:

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

People say he has everthing a boxer can posess. Well one thing he lacks is power. Hes he stopped Mitchell, Gatti, Coralles, and Corley, but all these fighters have had issues with there chins well before they fought him agaist far lesser opponents. The problem is i dont think he has the power to keep a true welterweight off him. Baldomir will have to walk thought his fast punches to land his harder shots. I think Mayweather knows he cant crack so i expect him to try and fight like Leonard did Duran the second time and this will not be a good fight for Mayweather to make more fans.

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Power is not everything...outboxing every one of the men that you & many others neglect or have neglected to mention such as Hernandez, Chavez, Judah, Corley, Castillo, Augustu, Juuko, & Manfredo...well...that say's a lot.

Then again...it's all in what you/me/he/she as a fan needs as a fighter.

Again...to some...power is not everything.

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Agreed power is not everything, but i do think that him fighting these bigger stonger guys will eventually hurt his legacy cause 1. He cant take any risks 2. he cant go toe to toe and 3. He cant hurt true top Welterweights+ imo

He can go toe to toe, his defense allows him to but he doesn't take risks and he doesn't have enough pop to hurt the true welters because he has brittle hands BUT the bigger gloves may help him hit harder

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He can go toe to toe, his defense allows him to but he doesn't take risks and he doesn't have enough pop to hurt the true welters because he has brittle hands BUT the bigger gloves may help him hit harder

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big gloves will not help him hit harder cause theres so much padding. Those goves he used vs. Judah were no punchers gloves

Power is something of a misnomer when used to describe PBF's punches. I learned a long time ago that velocity plays a larger role than mass when determining impact - just look at the damage a tiny bullet does! So when people say PBF has no power, it's just plain false. He has a different type of punching power than many other boxers, simply because he's faster than a lot of other boxers.

With that said, I still think Baldomir is very strong, relative to the other opponents PBF has faced. I'll be surprised if this one doesn't go the distance, with PBF unable to hurt Baldo significantly and Baldo unable to corner PBF.

The Matador vs. The Bull. Sometimes the bull wins ;)

So your saying Leonard didnt have power becuase he fort that way against Duran? If so i can promise you Leonard had GREAT power. Anyways Pernell Whittaker was feather fisted but hes still one of the GOAT's.

who ever said that PBF was a power puncher anyway. thats not normaly what you hear when people desribe PBF. so where did you hear this myth.

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So your saying Leonard didnt have power becuase he fort that way against Duran? If so i can promise you Leonard had GREAT power. Anyways Pernell Whittaker was feather fisted but hes still one of the GOAT's.

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Im not talking about being great or not. Im talking about being able to mix it up with great fighters at his new weight. Well have to wait ang see. But as of now im not sold on his dominance at Welterweight or any weight since he left Lightweight

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Im not talking about being great or not. Im talking about being able to mix it up with great fighters at his new weight. Well have to wait ang see. But as of now im not sold on his dominance at Welterweight or any weight since he left Lightweight

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thats exactly how i feel ;)

I don't think he did that great against Judah considering Judah was coming in off a loss and the fact that mentally he had him beat before they stepped in the ring (in my opinion). If PBF is as great as everyone makes out then he should dominate this slow Welterweight that has 9 losses and 6 draws on his record ;D we will all see soon enough.