Shane Mosley vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr: The Perfect Storm

By Ted Sares:

The middleweight showdown between Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II on July 22 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas affirmed that, like a perfect storm, everything is coming together......just the right things in the mix and with just the right timing. Team Mosley is now running on all cylinders. It will be hard for anyone to slow it down......and that perhaps includes Floyd Mayweather and Antonio Margarito. Let's break it down:

One, Sugar Shane dominated Fernando Vargas from the start and finished him off with one big and deadly left hook in the sixth preceded by a dazzling display of jabs and hand speed throughout the bout. Referee Kenny Bayless stepped in and stopped it 2:38 of the round. This outstanding piece of work was reminiscent of a prime Mosley. Arguably, some might pose the question: was Mosley that good or was Vargas that bad? The thinking here is that Mosley was that good.

Two, he is once again using feints,dazzling speed, quickness, and crafty head and body movement that served him so well in his two wins against Oscar De La Hoya and others.

Three, his creativity and ability to improvise in the ring has returned and adds to his potent arsenal of weapons

Four, he seems very comfortable having his father, Jack Mosley, 61, back in his corner for the first time in two years and if the Vargas fight is any indication, it appears he is back to stay. After all, he is man who directed his son to three world titles and the biggest wins of his career. Unlike the strained relationship between Roy Jones Jr, and his dad, Roy Sr., Shane Mosley, 34, embraces having Jack in his corner. He also is visibly content being promoted by Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins.

Five, Mosley, whose amateur record was an eye popping 230-12, knows his craft inside and out. He is a combination boxer-puncher but trainer Jack believes in power boxing, a method in which punches are thrown at a high rate of speed, most of them power shots with the hand speed generating the superior power. That style has worked well in the past as his son became a lightweight, welterweight, and junior middleweight champion.

Six, if Shane continues to fire wicked combinations that land with authority and if he is able to combine this with his trademark speed and reflexes, he will be every bit the formidable opponent for a Floyd Mayweather Jr who showed something to be desired in his last outing with Zab Judah. Again, a confluence of factors that come together to form a perfect storm.

Seven, a qualitative analysis and comparison of Floyd and Shane's respective opponents suggests that Sugar has fought the tougher ones. Vargas twice, Wright twice, De La Hoya twice, Forrest twice, Jesse James Leija, John John Molina, among others. Mosley has never been known for ducking an opponent.

Eight, Sugar Shane Mosley has his confidence back after his two losses to Winky Wright and an impressive win over strong David Estrada. More importantly, he has his swagger back.

It’s crystal clear the 34-year-old Mosley is still on top of his game and that Team Mosley is turbo charged and aiming in the direction of the man with the heavyweight ego, Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather, Jr. For his part, Floyd says, "First, I'll beat Shane and then I'll beat his boss [De La Hoya]." Mayweather continues to dismiss a lucrative offer from Bob Arum for a date with tough and rugged Antonio Margarito. At any rate, Mosley is back and that's great news for fight fans and bad news for other boxers in the welterweight division. With memories of Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran looming in the background.....and with Margarito, Mayweather and Mosley now in the mix, it's time to............

"......let's get it on." Mills Lane

I think people are too eager once they saw Shane against Vargas rematch doesn't mean he'd beat Mayweather.

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I think people are too eager once they saw Shane against Vargas rematch doesn't mean he'd beat Mayweather.

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Exactly! Vargas is damaged goods at this point and Shane didnt even look all that good against him in first bout!

that was more about a poor showing by vargas then some great fight by mosely.

theres a damn good reason that mosely has spent a large portion of his career avoiding mayweather like the plague :P

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that was more about a poor showing by vargas then some great fight by mosely.

theres a damn good reason that mosely has spent a large portion of his career avoiding mayweather like the plague :P

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Do you just believe anything Floyd says or what?? Mosley was always at a higher weight then Floyd, there was never any time when they could have fought unless Floyd wanted to move up and challenge him at lightweight... But that's right, Mosley was avoiding him and taking the easy fights like moving up 12 lbs to fight De la Hoya... And by that time, Floyd only had something like 20 fights, and hadn't fought anything near MOsleys level. Also, Mosley at lightweight would have beaten Floyd to a pulp imo, but that's besides the point because Floyd never really wanted the fight until recently.

i think if mosely would have fought PBf at 135 it would a have a more entertaning fight but shane would not have beat PBF to a pulp

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i think if mosely would have fought PBf at 135 it would a have a more entertaning fight but shane would not have beat PBF to a pulp

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No, each at their best he certainly wouldn't, my point was that at any plausible time it could have happened, he would have... MOsley made the jump to welter weight by the end of 99, at that point Floyd was at 130 and I just don't think he would have been strong enough to move up and challenge him.. This was like when he was fighting guys like Manfredy and Justin Jukko, not Castillo or anyone near as powerful as Shane.

p4pking i was agreeing with you aceppt for the pulp thing.

At this point I don't think that shane will be able to destroy PBF may a quick punch to score a flash knock down but Shane at his prime I think he would have presure PBF all 12 rounds

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that was more about a poor showing by vargas then some great fight by mosely.

theres a damn good reason that mosely has spent a large portion of his career avoiding mayweather like the plague :P

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:lolhaha: you crack me up!! p4pking was spot on ;)

In 1999 Mosley jumped from Lightweight to Welterweight and won the Championship from Oscar Dela Hoya (who was in his prime) while Floyd was making the 3rd defense of his 1st ever Title belt at FEATHERWEIGHT!! Yeh I'm sure Mosley was real scared of lil'Floyd :P

In 2003 Mosley ran from lil'Floyd once again, this time up to win the Undisputed Light Middleweight Championship and then face the man that nobody else would.. Winky Wright. Leaving the almighty Mayweather behind to defend his recently aquired LIGHTWEIGHT Title... ::**











I hope they meet because I know who will be left standing and it won't be pretty ;)

mosley wouldnt beat mayweather fact

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How is that a fact? ???

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How is that a fact? ???

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Lol maybe he meant to say "opinion "

I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I'm not sure about Margarito. Shane even in his prime was troubled by taller fighters. But margarito doesn't use his height so I guess not. Shane should move down and fight one fight at 147 and then fight Margarito. We don't want the same thing that happened to Roy to happen to Shane. Needless to say I was shocked when he came in 154 for vargas. I thought he'd come in 149 again.

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I'm not sure about Margarito. Shane even in his prime was troubled by taller fighters. But margarito doesn't use his height so I guess not. Shane should move down and fight one fight at 147 and then fight Margarito. We don't want the same thing that happened to Roy to happen to Shane. Needless to say I was shocked when he came in 154 for vargas. I thought he'd come in 149 again.

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Yeah he has struggled against taller fighters, but he hasn't had too much trouble with BUMS in the past.. (Im really just trying to rag on the Game lol)

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I'm not sure about Margarito. Shane even in his prime was troubled by taller fighters. But margarito doesn't use his height so I guess not. Shane should move down and fight one fight at 147 and then fight Margarito. We don't want the same thing that happened to Roy to happen to Shane. Needless to say I was shocked when he came in 154 for vargas. I thought he'd come in 149 again.

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Yeah he has struggled against taller fighters, but he hasn't had too much trouble with BUMS in the past.. (Im really just trying to rag on the Game lol)

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Look at what happened to Roy against Tarver(first fight) how good Tarver looked. Impossible things can happen ;)

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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In my opinion Mosley belongs at 147 and Floyd belongs at 140. I think there is still enough Sugar to KTFO of Floyd, against Vargas his movement was good, his timing was there, his speed was good his chin has never been in doubt and his power is as good as ever. ;D

Floyd struggled with Zab for 5 rounds ask yourself if Mosley would struggle with Zab? If KT can do it in two then Mosley would do it in one!!

The only factor working against Shane is age.. at 35 he is running out of time.

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no...but Sugar Shane has a distinct size advantage....this could play into SSM's hand....we'll have to wait and see how PBF does against Baldomir...for the record I'm going with PBF....

shane would have trouble with zab. theres no shame in having trouble with zab judah. he might be an idiot but he has great hand speed, good power, pretty nice defense and good footwork.

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shane would have trouble with zab. theres no shame in having trouble with zab judah. he might be an idiot but he has great hand speed, good power, pretty nice defense and good footwork.

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CC, was about to say the same thing.. Mosley might beat Zab, but there's no way he wouldn't have trouble and lose rounds unless Judah slipped up real early, imo.

thank you :coolclick:

Most fighters would struggle with Judah, cuz he's quick and has good boxing ability however the first time they land it may end the fight . The problem with Floyd is that even when he lands his best shots on the most chinny of opponents , he still cant wobble them . Hes always going to have to go the long route and every second hes in the ring with Mosley , its danger

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shane would have trouble with zab. theres no shame in having trouble with zab judah. he might be an idiot but he has great hand speed, good power, pretty nice defense and good footwork.

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CC, was about to say the same thing.. Mosley might beat Zab, but there's no way he wouldn't have trouble and lose rounds unless Judah slipped up real early, imo.

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Against Shane Mosley, Judah would be under more preasure than Floyd put on him with just as fast hands to deal with and having bombs dropping on him as well... yes he would slip up early. ;D

In my opinion if Shane fought Floyd the same way he did Oscar albeit a little reckless ;D he would walk through lil'Floyd punches, hurt him and win a close decision ;)

Mosely v Mayweather is a fight I wouldn't know who to make the faveourite, because it all depends on whats left in Shane's tank. Its tough to see whats left of him when he hasn't been stretched by a top guy in prime shape for years. I think that at this point, Floyd has him outmatched in nearly every department, Mosley has a big punch now though. Its a pick em IMO.

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Mosely v Mayweather is a fight I wouldn't know who to make the faveourite, because it all depends on whats left in Shane's tank. Its tough to see whats left of him when he hasn't been stretched by a top guy in prime shape for years. I think that at this point, Floyd has him outmatched in nearly every department, Mosley has a big punch now though. Its a pick em IMO.

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A big punch is a good equaliser ;D

It wasn't even two years ago that he came close to beating Winky and since has fought four times.

a minor point of interest is that he has a 2 inch reach advantage and is 1 inch taller. Which is probably not of consiquence since the only way to beat Floyd will be up close, not playing darts from the outside. One punch at a time won't win this fight.

That rangy left hook mosley throws could be the one, if he throws it 5 times every round, and one lands on the shoulder or chin every time its bound to do damage.

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I'm not sure about Margarito. Shane even in his prime was troubled by taller fighters. But margarito doesn't use his height so I guess not. Shane should move down and fight one fight at 147 and then fight Margarito. We don't want the same thing that happened to Roy to happen to Shane. Needless to say I was shocked when he came in 154 for vargas. I thought he'd come in 149 again.

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Yeah he has struggled against taller fighters, but he hasn't had too much trouble with BUMS in the past.. (Im really just trying to rag on the Game lol)

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LOL,bastard!!! ;D :D I think Mosley better take a few tune ups if he wants to fight the Tijuana Tornado because I would put money on Margarito beating him,it's just something I am super confident about and I think Shane saying he was not ready for Tony is an acknowledgment that Tony can damage him. I expect Shane to start off faster but I honestly believe that Tony outhustles him and outworks him towards the end of the fight for a splt decision or UD. Margarito's probably the best bum in boxing! O0

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I'm not sure about Margarito. Shane even in his prime was troubled by taller fighters. But margarito doesn't use his height so I guess not. Shane should move down and fight one fight at 147 and then fight Margarito. We don't want the same thing that happened to Roy to happen to Shane. Needless to say I was shocked when he came in 154 for vargas. I thought he'd come in 149 again.

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Yeah he has struggled against taller fighters, but he hasn't had too much trouble with BUMS in the past.. (Im really just trying to rag on the Game lol)

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LOL,B******!!! ;D :D I think Mosley better take a few tune ups if he wants to fight the Tijuana Tornado because I would put money on Margarito beating him,it's just something I am super confident about and I think Shane saying he was not ready for Tony is an acknowledgment that Tony can damage him. I expect Shane to start off faster but I honestly believe that Tony outhustles him and outworks him towards the end of the fight for a splt decision or UD. Margarito's probably the best bum in boxing! O0

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So that's why you stick your nose up there all day..... ;D

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I still think PBF wins now at 147. I don't think Mosley against a faded Vargas is a good example of him beating PBF and when did Mosley look good apart from that? I'd like to see Mosley at 147 first,see how he is,is he faster,more combos etc?

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Your probably right, I don't think Mosley would beat him now he's slipped just enough so Floyd could outbox him handily imo.. But Mosley did look good in his rematch with WRight, it's not as if Vargas is his only good performance in years, then again that's at 154.. Definetly he should take a tune up/lesser opponent(like Margarito) at welter just to see where he's at. He definetly has the power to KO Floyd, that's what would make it very interesting imo, and Floyd certainly couldn't budge Mosley.

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I'm not sure about Margarito. Shane even in his prime was troubled by taller fighters. But margarito doesn't use his height so I guess not. Shane should move down and fight one fight at 147 and then fight Margarito. We don't want the same thing that happened to Roy to happen to Shane. Needless to say I was shocked when he came in 154 for vargas. I thought he'd come in 149 again.

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Yeah he has struggled against taller fighters, but he hasn't had too much trouble with BUMS in the past.. (Im really just trying to rag on the Game lol)

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LOL,B******!!! ;D :D I think Mosley better take a few tune ups if he wants to fight the Tijuana Tornado because I would put money on Margarito beating him,it's just something I am super confident about and I think Shane saying he was not ready for Tony is an acknowledgment that Tony can damage him. I expect Shane to start off faster but I honestly believe that Tony outhustles him and outworks him towards the end of the fight for a splt decision or UD. Margarito's probably the best bum in boxing! O0

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So that's why you stick your nose up there all day..... ;D

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LMFAO!!! CC in 24,I'll let you off there,I'll admit you owned me,I have no response! All I say is you can see Mosley considers Tony a tough opponent,surely that must tell you something? Baldo also think she's tough!

Hey man, I know he's tough.. But you've gotta think alot of the reason people don't fight him is because nobody knows him... Think about it, Mosley is supposedly in discussions to fight him and they both wan't the fight.. Don't you think Mosley may have thought well why don't I bring him up in the interviews more people will pay interest? I think it may be that these name fighters figure if they mention his name as a tough opponent it will build up public interest in the fight, noone want's the kind or risk/reward that he brings currently. If some bigger names hype him up that way they can expose him with a Calzaghe vs Lacy type performance, and for more money. ;D

ain't no damn margarito gonna beat mosely. it might be a good fight but he won't win. i mean i like margarito but that win over cintron hasn't impressed me like it has all the television network commentors

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Hey man, I know he's tough.. But you've gotta think alot of the reason people don't fight him is because nobody knows him... Think about it, Mosley is supposedly in discussions to fight him and they both wan't the fight.. Don't you think Mosley may have thought well why don't I bring him up in the interviews more people will pay interest? I think it may be that these name fighters figure if they mention his name as a tough opponent it will build up public interest in the fight, noone want's the kind or risk/reward that he brings currently. If some bigger names hype him up that way they can expose him with a Calzaghe vs Lacy type performance, and for more money. ;D

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Hahahahaha,I like how you try to turn it around but this won't be a Lacy Calzaghe,SSM is no JC and Margarito isn't an idiot(albeit brave)going to some other country,other timezone etc. Margarito is going to beat Mosley's ass straight up! I soooooooooo hope this fight comes off,I want to see Tony against an A grader so badly!! And as to your other point, PBF-$8million?

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Hey man, I know he's tough.. But you've gotta think alot of the reason people don't fight him is because nobody knows him... Think about it, Mosley is supposedly in discussions to fight him and they both wan't the fight.. Don't you think Mosley may have thought well why don't I bring him up in the interviews more people will pay interest? I think it may be that these name fighters figure if they mention his name as a tough opponent it will build up public interest in the fight, noone want's the kind or risk/reward that he brings currently. If some bigger names hype him up that way they can expose him with a Calzaghe vs Lacy type performance, and for more money. ;D

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Hahahahaha,I like how you try to turn it around but this won't be a Lacy Calzaghe,SSM is no JC and Margarito isn't an idiot(albeit brave)going to some other country,other timezone etc. Margarito is going to beat Mosley's a** straight up! I soooooooooo hope this fight comes off,I want to see Tony against an A grader so badly!! And as to your other point, PBF-$8million?

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He's getting 8 million at least for Baldomir, and it will generate far more PPV, people will recognize him for the win, and he becomes the undisputed welterweight champion. Anything else?

Since when did PBF care about being linear champ? at 140? And I still find it hard to believe that Sycuan promotions/Goosen is able to generate that amount of $$$. and how do you know it will deliver far more PPV? A bit of work by Arum and it would be a big fight,I think most average fans know who Tony fans judging by the way he is mobbed wherever he goes(saw it in an interview,person interviewing mentioned how the excuse of who is Margarito will grow old sooner or later)

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Since when did PBF care about being linear champ? at 140? And I still find it hard to believe that Sycuan promotions/Goosen is able to generate that amount of $$$. and how do you know it will deliver far more PPV? A bit of work by Arum and it would be a big fight,I think most average fans know who Tony fans judging by the way he is mobbed wherever he goes(saw it in an interview,person interviewing mentioned how the excuse of who is Margarito will grow old sooner or later)

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Oh come on buddy... It's not about just being the linear champ, and how are you surprised that they can offer Floyd as much to fight the champion who has beaten Zab Judah and Gatti in the lst year, and yet not at all skeptical when you heard they offered 8 million for Margarito, who has beaten noone near that status. Of course it will generate more PPV, do you have any idea how many people know who both PBF and Baldomir are just because they both whipped Gatti?? trust me man, people know Gatti, who know nothing about boxing.. I have had friends who don't really follow boxing remotely, but they would order Gatti's PPV's after his battle with Ward.

You make valid points which I cannot argue,Gatti is probably hugely popular stateside. I was addressing the linear champ point because you mentioned it,the average fan doesn't know anything about that type of stuff but you're right, I see how it would make more,never looked at it like that.

As for the $8million,I'm not sceptical because A.) Floyd implied he had knowledge about it by constantly saying his next fight would be MORE than $8million and B.) I never heard Mayweather say he was not being offered that type of money,his argument was about how well it would do on PPV.

Out of interest,how many buys do you see this doing? I think about 350,000-375,000?

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You make valid points which I cannot argue,Gatti is probably hugely popular stateside. I was addressing the linear champ point because you mentioned it,the average fan doesn't know anything about that type of stuff but you're right, I see how it would make more,never looked at it like that.

As for the $8million,I'm not sceptical because A.) Floyd implied he had knowledge about it by constantly saying his next fight would be MORE than $8million and B.) I never heard Mayweather say he was not being offered that type of money,his argument was about how well it would do on PPV.

Out of interest,how many buys do you see this doing? I think about 350,000-375,000?

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I don't know, but I think you may be surprised the impact that both of them beating Gatti will have on the PPv generated, and general public interest... I honestly have people ask me about the fight who would never care otherwise, simply because they have followed Gatti for several years now. "Hey are you going to watch Mayweather fight the Argentinian guy who beat Gatti and Judah... I can't wait to order it". Im not kidding, you know.. it's just a different level of popularity, sure boxing fans are beginning to know who Margarito is, but Gatti's fights with Ward made national news, you know... People who had no idea and had never watched any boxing just started seeing these blood and guts replays... If ABC or Fox was to do a special on how Floyd Mayweather the no.1 p4p fighter in the world was deadly scared of the boogeyman Margarito, and showed some of his highlights, it would probably generate alot of PPV too, but as far as anything Bob Arum can do to promote the fight... Well noone outside of boxing gives a rat's ass who he is, or would ever hear anything he had to say.