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Top 10 most underrated boxers
1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
just my list, everyone post their own list and after we can do the top ten for the whole forum
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
1. Gene Tunney
2. Carmen Basilio (beat a PRIME Ray Robinson)
3. Carlos Monzon (he's famous but gets no respect)
4. Kid Gavilan
5. Joey Maxim
6. Willie Pastrano
7. Jim Braddock
8. Jack Sharkey
9. Nicolino Locche
10. Duilio Loi
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by chamiley
1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
just my list, everyone post their own list and after we can do the top ten for the whole forum
As i started doing mine i realised it went Pernell, Lopez, Benitez, Charles, then i thought where have i seen this before!? Having looked at the rest of the list i can say this is more or less the same as mine would look although id swap benitez and charles. :coolclick:
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
1. Pernell Whitaker Azumah Nelson
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe Orlando Canizales
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor Virgil Hill
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
Whitaker was never underrated as a boxer. All he did was box. A Whitaker victim, Azumah Nelson I think is very underrated.
Calzaghe? Come on? Canizales is more deserving
Pryor was a fighter, not really a boxer. Hill's boxing skills is one of the reasons his ass is still around
I wouldn't of picked some of them other names, but they are deserving. Since I don't really feel like making a list, I'll agree with this one. Changes included
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
not in any order from who ive seen
mike mccallum
larry holmes
michael watson known for his brain damage not for his skills
azumah nelson
carlos monzon
sonny liston
frankie randall
virgil hill
steve collins
wilfredo benitez
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
1. Pernell Whitaker  Azumah Nelson
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe  Orlando Canizales
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor  Virgil Hill
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
Whitaker was never underrated as a boxer.  All he did was box.  A Whitaker victim, Azumah Nelson I think is very underrated.  
Calzaghe?  Come on?  Canizales is more deserving
Pryor was a fighter, not really a boxer.  Hill's boxing skills is one of the reasons his a** is still around
I wouldn't of picked some of them other names, but they are deserving.  Since I don't really feel like making a list, I'll agree with this one.  Changes included
pryor could box and brawl watch 1st arguello fight when he had to do it in later rounds
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
1. Pernell Whitaker Azumah Nelson
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe Orlando Canizales
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor Virgil Hill
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
Whitaker was never underrated as a boxer. All he did was box. A Whitaker victim, Azumah Nelson I think is very underrated.
Calzaghe? Come on? Canizales is more deserving
Pryor was a fighter, not really a boxer. Hill's boxing skills is one of the reasons his a** is still around
I wouldn't of picked some of them other names, but they are deserving. Since I don't really feel like making a list, I'll agree with this one. Changes included
pryor could box and brawl watch 1st arguello fight when he had to do it in later rounds
I didn't mean boxers in the purest sense, I meant fighters. style is not in debate here
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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1. Pernell Whitaker  Azumah Nelson
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe  Orlando Canizales
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor  Virgil Hill
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
Whitaker was never underrated as a boxer.  All he did was box.  A Whitaker victim, Azumah Nelson I think is very underrated.  
Calzaghe?  Come on?  Canizales is more deserving
Pryor was a fighter, not really a boxer.  Hill's boxing skills is one of the reasons his a** is still around
I wouldn't of picked some of them other names, but they are deserving.  Since I don't really feel like making a list, I'll agree with this one.  Changes included
pryor could box and brawl watch 1st arguello fight when he had to do it in later rounds
I didn't mean boxers in the purest sense, I meant fighters. style is not in debate here
Alright. Still, I don't really think Whitaker was underrated.  Pryor?  Maybe a little.  Not as much as Canizales or Nelson are.  As for Calzaghe?  Well the thread title says underrated, not overrated.  So Calzaghe belongs no where on this list.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by chamiley
1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
just my list, everyone post their own list and after we can do the top ten for the whole forum
Pretty good list except...Some of these guys were not underrated...
Whitaker...Was pound for pound for a long time..
Ricardo Lopez was flawless went undefeated with only one draw maybe the best little man ever * can't go smaller)
Larry Holmes lacked the presence of a fighter no personality but as champion he ruled supreme without a doubt in anyones mind
Aaron Pryor was perhaps the most feared 140lb fighter of all time ( Not best but feared) and top 3 of all time
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
Wayne McCullough the pocket rocket deserves a mention,all his fights were toe to toe and he was world champion went 12 rounds with Morales and Hameed...
I think he was a good fighter and he is Irish :laugh:
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
In no particular order...
1.Michael Spinks..For some reason all anyone remembers is his KO loss to Tyson
2.Jerry Quarry-This guy was GOOD he just happened to be stuck with GREATS!!! Ali, Frazier, Foreman ect
3.Michael Moorer-For some reason he is always left off the top guy's list. Great LH hard hitter just didn't have the jaw for the bigger heavyweights
4.Carlos Baldomir-Yes I know the current Welterweight champion. Yes he probably will lose to Floyd but this guy has been around a long time. He is more than just an upset fighter.
5.John Mugabi-The Beast was ruined by Hagler but he was a hell of a fighter who was thrown in too soon the tail end of his career sucked but other than that he was great
6.Micky Ward-The best guy to never win an ABC title. Yes he had a few losses on his record but this guy always stepped up to the plate...Micky's biggest downfall was his trainers lacked the knowledge to fine tune him...Still best hook to the body in the history of the game
7.James Braddock- They call him Cinderella man like his win was a fluke truth is the guy could fight and was tough as nails
8.Archie Moore-All arond known for his craftiness and an all time great yes...But many reall don't truly understand he was the first Foreman...This guy fought for titles way beyond the average fighters years...What was more impressive was the fact they fought more often..More rounds and with lighter gloves
9.Sam Langford-A guy with all the skill in the world but was shut out due to his skin color. Unlike Johnson they weren't giving him a shot at a title. Perhaps one of the most ducked men in the history of the game.
10.Billy Conn--One of the best LH of all time. Only true boxing fans really know how good he was. Billy was best known for his fights with Louis. In which he came damn close to winning the HW crown. Sometimes those fights with the brown bomber overshadow everything else
If I took time I could come up with better but thats about all I got off the top of my head
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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1. Pernell Whitaker Azumah Nelson
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe Orlando Canizales
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor Virgil Hill
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
Whitaker was never underrated as a boxer. All he did was box. A Whitaker victim, Azumah Nelson I think is very underrated.
Calzaghe? Come on? Canizales is more deserving
Pryor was a fighter, not really a boxer. Hill's boxing skills is one of the reasons his a** is still around
I wouldn't of picked some of them other names, but they are deserving. Since I don't really feel like making a list, I'll agree with this one. Changes included
pryor could box and brawl watch 1st arguello fight when he had to do it in later rounds
I didn't mean boxers in the purest sense, I meant fighters. style is not in debate here
Alright. Still, I don't really think Whitaker was underrated. Pryor? Maybe a little. Not as much as Canizales or Nelson are. As for Calzaghe? Well the thread title says underrated, not overrated. So Calzaghe belongs no where on this list.
As great as whitaker was he is never an immediate name in regards to be considered as one the greatest. Usually a person's immediate thought process conjures up the names roy jones, leonard, duran, ali, ray robinson it is only when one thinks hard that whitaker's name is remembered. I believe his style played a role in his detriment. and as for calzaghe, how many of his fights have you watched, if you are commenting due to his level of opposition then one has to question roy jones's greatness too. Calzaghe is a full packaged fighter who has everything from boxing skills, power, chin, speed, foot movement. He has a right to be on this list I believe because of talent and due to the fact that his greatness fell victim to his shallow division.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by chamiley
1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
just my list, everyone post their own list and after we can do the top ten for the whole forum
Pretty good list except...Some of these guys were not underrated...
Whitaker...Was pound for pound for a long time..
Ricardo Lopez was flawless went undefeated with only one draw maybe the best little man ever * can't go smaller)
Larry Holmes lacked the presence of a fighter no personality but as champion he ruled supreme without a doubt in anyones mind
Aaron Pryor was perhaps the most feared 140lb fighter of all time ( Not best but feared) and top 3 of all time
Well my list is of a blend of fighters who proved their greatness and still haven't received their proper dues and fighters who had talent and capabilities but are only rememberred for their shortcomings
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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1. Pernell Whitaker Azumah Nelson
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Wilfredo Benitez
5. Joe Calzaghe Orlando Canizales
6. Larry Holmes
7. Mike McCallum
8. Aaron Pryor Virgil Hill
9. Terry Norris
10. Michael Nunn
Whitaker was never underrated as a boxer. All he did was box. A Whitaker victim, Azumah Nelson I think is very underrated.
Calzaghe? Come on? Canizales is more deserving
Pryor was a fighter, not really a boxer. Hill's boxing skills is one of the reasons his a** is still around
I wouldn't of picked some of them other names, but they are deserving. Since I don't really feel like making a list, I'll agree with this one. Changes included
pryor could box and brawl watch 1st arguello fight when he had to do it in later rounds
I didn't mean boxers in the purest sense, I meant fighters. style is not in debate here
Alright. Still, I don't really think Whitaker was underrated. Pryor? Maybe a little. Not as much as Canizales or Nelson are. As for Calzaghe? Well the thread title says underrated, not overrated. So Calzaghe belongs no where on this list.
As great as whitaker was he is never an immediate name in regards to be considered as one the greatest. Usually a person's immediate thought process conjures up the names roy jones, leonard, duran, ali, ray robinson it is only when one thinks hard that whitaker's name is remembered. I believe his style played a role in his detriment. and as for calzaghe, how many of his fights have you watched, if you are commenting due to his level of opposition then one has to question roy jones's greatness too. Calzaghe is a full packaged fighter who has everything from boxing skills, power, chin, speed, foot movement. He has a right to be on this list I believe because of talent and due to the fact that his greatness fell victim to his shallow division.
Having the full package don't make you great. Donald Curry and Hector Camacho are two guys that had the whole package. Not many people would call them great. And while you question Jones resume, he can still say he beat James Toney, Bernard Hopkins, Virgil Hill. 3 Hall of Famers. Names Calzaghe can not even come close to matching. Joe is a fighter with talent who has a lot to prove. That's it. He's nowhere near great. And he sure as hell, ain't underrated.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
I say Gomez, but I can see Ortiz's case. And don't really have a problem with him being called number 1
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
I say Gomez, but I can see Ortiz's case. And don't really have a problem with him being called number 1
Why do you give Gomez the edge?
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
I say Gomez, but I can see Ortiz's case. And don't really have a problem with him being called number 1
Why do you give Gomez the edge?
Cuz I seen more of his fights. A lot more. I seen about 3 of Ortiz's fights (he is a lot older fighter). I have a hard time finding his fights. If I see more, than I might change my mind. Till than, I say Gomez. His destruction of Carlos Zarate and battles with Lupe Pintor and Juan LaPorte were great. His losses to Azumah Nelson and Salvador Sanchez are nothing to be ashamed of.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
I say Gomez, but I can see Ortiz's case. And don't really have a problem with him being called number 1
Why do you give Gomez the edge?
Cuz I seen more of his fights. A lot more. I seen about 3 of Ortiz's fights (he is a lot older fighter). I have a hard time finding his fights. If I see more, than I might change my mind. Till than, I say Gomez. His destruction of Carlos Zarate and battles with Lupe Pintor and Juan LaPorte were great. His losses to Azumah Nelson and Salvador Sanchez are nothing to be ashamed of.
Gotcha'..... :)
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
winky wright used to be way under rated... he should have had the respect he has now years ago!!
as was the case for pernel whitaker when he was boxing...
the only person i can think of atm is ricado mayorga!!... to be fair he never lost a big fight in his own weight ...(including spinks!!)... and even though he had a bad image and a random slugger style.. he still got it dont... he just got offered bigger money at middle and light middle which.. one werent his wieght classes and two he was overmatched.. so they prob werent good choices but i do think he is underrated
peace
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
Yall are STILL leaving out "The Upstate Onion Farmer" CARMEN BASILIO
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I'm not his fan and I know a lot of people will land on me but I think Vivian Harris is underrated but mostly is his fault but he fits in this thread
oops top 10
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
I say Gomez, but I can see Ortiz's case. And don't really have a problem with him being called number 1
Why do you give Gomez the edge?
Cuz I seen more of his fights. A lot more. I seen about 3 of Ortiz's fights (he is a lot older fighter). I have a hard time finding his fights. If I see more, than I might change my mind. Till than, I say Gomez. His destruction of Carlos Zarate and battles with Lupe Pintor and Juan LaPorte were great. His losses to Azumah Nelson and Salvador Sanchez are nothing to be ashamed of.
Gotcha'..... :)
What exactly did you get him on?
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
I'd have to say:
Larry Holmes- possibly the best HW ever
Sonny Liston- never was liked or accepted, iced Floyd Patterson twice, was older than he claimed and didn't get a shot at the title till late, underestimated Ali the first time and threw the second one for sure, ended being murdered by the mob or it would appear that way at least.
Dwight Muhammed Qwai/Braxton-hell of a short pressure fighter who beat many good fighters and gave Holyfield a tougher time than Mike Tyson did
Jose Luis Castillo-Despite recently screwin everyone with the weight nonsense, he is every bit as much of a warrior as MAB or Morales, and should have handed PBF his first loss but got screwed, gotta be one of the greatest lightweights of all time.
If I think of more I'll add em.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
ezzard charles --sure as hell is underrated--a very dangerous fighter--very,very skillful as aswell
jimmy young is another 1
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oh yea and OLD jersey joe---slick--and helluva puncher---"old" a word used 2 lure his pray into thinking hes a pushover.
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i think that calzaghe is very underrated, but i also think thats gonna change soon
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Moore and Holmes, Good call!
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
Corrie Sanders
Didnt fight Tyson because Don king stuff (I heard) avoided by Lennox (admittedly) and other big names. Only 3 losses; a fluke, Rahman who he knocked down!, and Vitaly in later rounds tko (still standing).
Ask Lennox he says this too.
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
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Corrie Sanders
Didnt fight Tyson because Don king stuff (I heard) avoided by Lennox (admittedly) and other big names. Only 3 losses; a fluke, Rahman who he knocked down!, and Vitaly in later rounds tko (still standing).
Ask Lennox he says this too.
I need to see this for myself...Where Lennox Lewis admittedly ducked Corrie Sanders
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
maybe when corrie was 45 ::**
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I'd have to say:
Larry Holmes- possibly the best HW everSonny Liston- never was liked or accepted, iced Floyd Patterson twice, was older than he claimed and didn't get a shot at the title till late, underestimated Ali the first time and threw the second one for sure, ended being murdered by the mob or it would appear that way at least.
Dwight Muhammed Qwai/Braxton-hell of a short pressure fighter who beat many good fighters and gave Holyfield a tougher time than Mike Tyson did
Jose Luis Castillo-Despite recently screwin everyone with the weight nonsense, he is every bit as much of a warrior as MAB or Morales, and should have handed PBF his first loss but got screwed, gotta be one of the greatest lightweights of all time.
If I think of more I'll add em.
hard 2 argue--but i think ali was the best HW--had their been a prime ali--he would easily b the greatest...no debate. i think the ali who beat liston could take on holmes
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In NO particular order;
Carlos Zarate
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Carlos Ortiz - Arguably Puerto Ricos best fighter of all time.
Ruben Olivares
Miguel Canto
Larry Holmes
Gilberto Roman
Eder Jofre
Azumah Nelson
Simple question. You would call Ortiz's Puerto Ricos greatest fighter? I say Wifredo Gomez
I have Ortiz slightly ahead of Gomez simply because Ortiz was able to redem himself and beat back all but 3 of 7 guys that beat him. I also think edge goes to Ortiz on opposition.
Gomez fully dominated and held one belt at Super Bantam thought IMO he should have been DQ'd for hitting Zarate while he was on the canvas already. He fought well and good opposition much props to him for moving up in weight it just wasn't to be. All in all anyone can make a good arguement why one or the other is better I personally side with Ortiz.
I say Gomez, but I can see Ortiz's case. And don't really have a problem with him being called number 1
Why do you give Gomez the edge?
Cuz I seen more of his fights. A lot more. I seen about 3 of Ortiz's fights (he is a lot older fighter). I have a hard time finding his fights. If I see more, than I might change my mind. Till than, I say Gomez. His destruction of Carlos Zarate and battles with Lupe Pintor and Juan LaPorte were great. His losses to Azumah Nelson and Salvador Sanchez are nothing to be ashamed of.
Gotcha'..... :)
What exactly did you get him on?
Gotcha' is like saying 'I got it' or 'I understand' :)
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
ArchiekinZ Moore...yeaaahh...one of the Greatest Underrated greats. :)
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Re: Top 10 most underrated boxers
Joe Calzaghe-does not get the credit he deserves but just by watching him,you see his skills.
JMM-highly highly skilled and very powerful technician who beat Pacman in my opinion. Supposedly been ducked by EM and MAB and has had poor management which has hampered his career but a great fighter.
Castillo- a rugged warrior who beat PBF the first time,beat Casamayor,ko'ed Corrales and beat guys like Lazcano,Stevie Johnston etc etc Quite skilled and willing to fight everyone although think the wars will catch up with him when he faces Hatton.
