Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by dasamm
Ok, so all the talk about upcoming Mayweather vs Baldomir fight and there was all that "talk" about people wanting Mayweather-Margarito, but what about...
Baldomir vs Margarito!
Who would win this and why?
Baldomir has fought the MUCH better competition and margarito wouldn't be able to bully him with his size. I feel confident saying Baldo would win UD.
I think if there is anyone in the WW div. that can overpower Baldomitsubishi it's Margarito, He has a 6" reach and will be the first guy that Baldo will have to punch up to. I say Margarito late TKO.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
I say Margarito would beat him, Baldomir isn't going to beat an opponent who is just as tough and physical as he is through his great boxing skills, not that Margarito has any whatsoever, I would just tip him because he has more power, would be a really tough entertaining fight I think.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
:o Margarito would destroy Baldomir, any solid fighter without a glass chin with similar strength is 50-50 because thats all Baldomir is, if they have more speed, power, varied attack then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes. Its pretty simple.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by p4pking
I say Margarito would beat him, Baldomir isn't going to beat an opponent who is just as tough and physical as he is through his great boxing skills, not that Margarito has any whatsoever, I would just tip him because he has more power, would be a really tough entertaining fight I think.
What he said. :coolclick:
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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You gentlemen either underrate baldomir or overrate margarito! Then again, maybe I am wrong..no one else thinks baldy would take a UD or win?
I though this was going to be a landslide for baldomir except of course the Margarito loyalist: Gamo, Cutme, and thebestp4p would say margarito... but all of you are saying margarit@!
It seems my little plan to build up Floyd when he beats baldomir and at the same time take down margarito has backfired...all because you meddling posters! >:mad
I think that Margarito is going to whoop Clottey and Floyd is going to beat Baldomir and then everyone is going to be calling PBF to fight margarito. Of course when/if Margarito beats Clottey one must ask who has Clottey beat? But that won't stop the margarito fans...a ravenous bunch they are. The only way a PBF vs. Margarito showdown won't happen is if the DLH thing goes through with pbf and Margarito gets exposed in the meantime. Which very well might happen.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
Baldomir is the type of fighter that could make Margarito look good win or lose.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
:o Margarito would destroy Baldomir, any solid fighter without a glass chin with similar strength is 50-50 because thats all Baldomir is, if they have more speed, power, varied attack then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes. Its pretty simple.
You've basically just defined Artuto Gatti. I'm pretty sure it takes more then that to beat Baldomir. Stop underestimating and instegating and downgrading and perpetrating what Baldomir isn't and having a Hatton picture in your av at the same time if you want to talk about a limited boxer.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Baldomir is the type of fighter that could make Margarito look good win or lose.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
:o Margarito would destroy Baldomir, any solid fighter without a glass chin with similar strength is 50-50 because thats all Baldomir is, if they have more speed, power, varied attack then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes. Its pretty simple.
You've basically just defined Artuto Gatti. I'm pretty sure it takes more then that to beat Baldomir. Stop underestimating and instegating and downgrading and perpetrating what Baldomir isn't and having a Hatton picture in your av at the same time if you want to talk about a limited boxer.
I'm trying to say that I think Margarito is better than Baldomir, and that he would crush him. Who said Baldomir is one dimensional? How have i described Gatti, when I thought Baldomir would beat Gatti? Gatti's chin is long gone bro. Whats Hatton got to do with this?
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
Baldomir said it plenty of times in interviews he wanted NO part in Margarito he said he repected him and for now he had other PLAN$ for his new found fame.
Now that doesn't mean Margarito beats him on that, but it does mean that Margarito posses a BIGGER threat then most Welters.
Same thing with Mosely saying he wasn't ready for Margarito.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
You get the same idea with Hatton and Mayweather too, why would anyone want to get in the ring with him, he's the most dangerous one out there, but maybe not the most unbeatable.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
I personally want to see rematch MArgarito - Cintron I know he fights way better than he did that day
I just don't know that much of Margarito since I have only seen him fight Cintron and a shot boxer.
Off topic Trinidad(prime) vs Baldi or Margarito at 147 then we will see how good is Baldo's chin.
DOn't jump on me it just cross my mind for a sec. I'm thinking and writing.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by Puya
I personally want to see rematch MArgarito - Cintron I know he fights way better than he did that day
exactly!
what the margaritites dont want to ever tell you is that kermit cintron was coming off a long period of inactivity because he just had HAND SURGERY and that margarito was his return to the ring ;D
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Puya
I personally want to see rematch MArgarito - Cintron I know he fights way better than he did that day
exactly!
what the margaritites dont want to ever tell you is that kermit cintron was coming off a long period of inactivity because he just had HAND SURGERY and that margarito was his return to the ring ;D
exactly! my point :coolclick:
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Baldomir is the type of fighter that could make Margarito look good win or lose.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
:o Margarito would destroy Baldomir, any solid fighter without a glass chin with similar strength is 50-50 because thats all Baldomir is, if they have more speed, power, varied attack then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes. Its pretty simple.
You've basically just defined Artuto Gatti. I'm pretty sure it takes more then that to beat Baldomir. Stop underestimating and instegating and downgrading and perpetrating what Baldomir isn't and having a Hatton picture in your av at the same time if you want to talk about a limited boxer.
I'm trying to say that I think Margarito is better than Baldomir, and that he would crush him. Who said Baldomir is one dimensional?
How have i described Gatti?
Do you really want to do this again ;)
any
So you mean all
solid fighter without a glass chin
Arturo Gatti
with similar strength is 50-50
Gatti hits harder, Baldomir just has the best chin in the business.
[b]because thats all Baldomir is[b/]
So you just called Baldomir "just" a solid fighter without a glass chin and strength.
if they have more speed,
Gatti
power,
Gatti
varied attack
Gatti
then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes.
I don't think Gatti made any terrible mistakes, Baldomir just shut him down and Gatti couldn't outslug him in the end.
Its pretty simple.
Can't be, or Gatti would have won. I think it takes more to beat Baldomir then just that. And since when has Gatti's chin been long gone?
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by Puya
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Puya
I personally want to see rematch MArgarito - Cintron I know he fights way better than he did that day
exactly!
what the margaritites dont want to ever tell you is that kermit cintron was coming off a long period of inactivity because he just had HAND SURGERY and that margarito was his return to the ring ;D
exactly! my point :coolclick:
cc back!
its time people like us shed some light on this whole situation
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Puya
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Puya
I personally want to see rematch MArgarito - Cintron I know he fights way better than he did that day
exactly!
what the margaritites dont want to ever tell you is that kermit cintron was coming off a long period of inactivity because he just had HAND SURGERY and that margarito was his return to the ring ;D
exactly! my point :coolclick:
cc back!
its time people like us shed some light on this whole situation
Hehehe, my plan worked. once again:
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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You gentlemen either underrate baldomir or overrate margarito! Then again, maybe I am wrong..no one else thinks baldy would take a UD or win?
I though this was going to be a landslide for baldomir except of course the Margarito loyalist: Gamo, Cutme, and thebestp4p would say margarito... but all of you are saying margarit@!
It seems my little plan to build up Floyd when he beats baldomir and at the same time take down margarito has backfired...all because you meddling posters! >:mad
I think that Margarito is going to whoop Clottey and Floyd is going to beat Baldomir and then everyone is going to be calling PBF to fight margarito. Of course when/if Margarito beats Clottey one must ask who has Clottey beat? But that won't stop the margarito fans...a ravenous bunch they are. The only way a PBF vs. Margarito showdown won't happen is if the DLH thing goes through with pbf and Margarito gets exposed in the meantime. Which very well might happen.
cc's Puya and Frozen and Tito woulda beat either bald or marg @147 both by KO!
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
Oh so Margarito should give Cintron a rematch because of the hand surgery? Riiiiiighhhhhhttttt....why doesn't Floyd give Corrales a rematch because of the ULTRA weight drain,poor training and prison looming on the back of his mind: Answer-because he would whoop Corrales again just Like Margarito would Cintron.And have you heard Cintron seriously mention Tony?
As for Tony-Baldo,I posted(and P4Pking is my witness) where Baldo HIMSELF said that he sparred with Tony,he was VERY powerful and that he did not want to fight him. As for Baldo,you guys are alllll going by his fights with blown up welters(Zab and Gatti),Clottey stopped him in his tracks at least3-4 times and handed his ass to him.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by dasamm
:o
You gentlemen either underrate baldomir or overrate margarito! Then again, maybe I am wrong..no one else thinks baldy would take a UD or win?
I though this was going to be a landslide for baldomir except of course the Margarito loyalist: Gamo, Cutme, and thebestp4p would say margarito... but all of you are saying margarit@!
It seems my little plan to build up Floyd when he beats baldomir and at the same time take down margarito has backfired...all because you meddling posters! >:mad
I think that Margarito is going to whoop Clottey and Floyd is going to beat Baldomir and then everyone is going to be calling PBF to fight margarito. Of course when/if Margarito beats Clottey one must ask who has Clottey beat? But that won't stop the margarito fans...a ravenous bunch they are. The only way a PBF vs. Margarito showdown won't happen is if the DLH thing goes through with pbf and Margarito gets exposed in the meantime. Which very well might happen.
Well dude first off yes I am a Margarito fan and second you say clottey hasn't beat any one important, its not like floyd has either I mean yeah he beat a Judah who had already lost his title and sure he beated on an Arturo Gatti punchin bag but what's that tell you? in my opinion Flouyd shouldn't even have that I.B.F belt it should have been vacated when Baldo beat zabb but the corrupt and crooked sanctioning bodies (like don king) let zabb hold on to it. 8)
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Oh so Margarito should give Cintron a rematch because of the hand surgery? Riiiiiighhhhhhttttt....why doesn't Floyd give Corrales a rematch because of the ULTRA weight drain,poor training and prison looming on the back of his mind: Answer-because he would whoop Corrales again just Like Margarito would Cintron.And have you heard Cintron seriously mention Tony?
As for Tony-Baldo,I posted(and P4Pking is my witness) where Baldo HIMSELF said that he sparred with Tony,he was VERY powerful and that he did not want to fight him. As for Baldo,you guys are alllll going by his fights with blown up welters(Zab and Gatti),Clottey stopped him in his tracks at least3-4 times and handed his ass to him.
I have seen Cintron Fight lots of time's before and in my mind and IMO he can fight much much better than That I did no said that this time Cintron he will win but he had a long lay off and to come back to fight Margarito is a hard thing to do. I hope along the long line they meet again.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Baldomir is the type of fighter that could make Margarito look good win or lose.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
:o Margarito would destroy Baldomir, any solid fighter without a glass chin with similar strength is 50-50 because thats all Baldomir is, if they have more speed, power, varied attack then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes. Its pretty simple.
You've basically just defined Artuto Gatti. I'm pretty sure it takes more then that to beat Baldomir. Stop underestimating and instegating and downgrading and perpetrating what Baldomir isn't and having a Hatton picture in your av at the same time if you want to talk about a limited boxer.
I'm trying to say that I think Margarito is better than Baldomir, and that he would crush him. Who said Baldomir is one dimensional?
How have i described Gatti?
Do you really want to do this again ;)
any
So you mean all
solid fighter without a glass chin
Arturo Gatti
with similar strength is 50-50
Gatti hits harder, Baldomir just has the best chin in the business.
[b]because thats all Baldomir is[b/]
So you just called Baldomir "just" a solid fighter without a glass chin and strength.
if they have more speed,
Gatti
power,
Gatti
varied attack
Gatti
then they are favourite as long as they don't make mistakes.
I don't think Gatti made any terrible mistakes, Baldomir just shut him down and Gatti couldn't outslug him in the end.
Its pretty simple.
Can't be, or Gatti would have won. I think it takes more to beat Baldomir then just that. And since when has Gatti's chin been long gone?
He was all out of gas in the 9th, dropping your hands, not moving your head, not using your footwork, I'd call all of those mistakes.
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
Well,
PBF didnt want to fight Margarito because, he felt that it was a dangerous fight for him, so somethings up!!
I dont think that Baldy would back down....He doesnt seem to be scared of anything....
Would be a good fight, of course I would pick Baldy to win....
Good Luck,
Coach
Re: Baldomir vs. Margarito
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Originally Posted by memojaras
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Originally Posted by dasamm
:o
You gentlemen either underrate baldomir or overrate margarito! Then again, maybe I am wrong..no one else thinks baldy would take a UD or win?
I though this was going to be a landslide for baldomir except of course the Margarito loyalist: Gamo, Cutme, and thebestp4p would say margarito... but all of you are saying margarit@!
It seems my little plan to build up Floyd when he beats baldomir and at the same time take down margarito has backfired...all because you meddling posters! >:mad
I think that Margarito is going to whoop Clottey and Floyd is going to beat Baldomir and then everyone is going to be calling PBF to fight margarito. Of course when/if Margarito beats Clottey one must ask who has Clottey beat? But that won't stop the margarito fans...a ravenous bunch they are. The only way a PBF vs. Margarito showdown won't happen is if the DLH thing goes through with pbf and Margarito gets exposed in the meantime. Which very well might happen.
Well dude first off yes I am a Margarito fan and second you say clottey hasn't beat any one important, its not like floyd has either I mean yeah he beat a Judah who had already lost his title and sure he beated on an Arturo Gatti punchin bag but what's that tell you? in my opinion Flouyd shouldn't even have that I.B.F belt it should have been vacated when Baldo beat zabb but the corrupt and crooked sanctioning bodies (like don king) let zabb hold on to it. 8)
Dear god... You realize when he said Clottey hasn't beat anyone, he meant at all, whatsoever, anything close to a contender.. Floyd has beat many excellent fighters, I hate ignorant raving fans like you.. What does Floyd beating Judah tell you? It should tell you noone else currently at welterweight holds a win as impressive, aside from perhaps Baldomir who didn't beat him nearly as convincingly, and is now fighting Floyd... But I guess nothing's good enough until he fights Margarito, even though he hasn't fought in a freaking year and a half and his only win was over Cintron who had also beat absolutely noone just like Clottey... Oh wait, he beat an old Teddy Reid, which actually puts him way above Clottey in terms of achievement.
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Dear god... You realize when he said Clottey hasn't beat anyone, he meant at all, whatsoever, anything close to a contender.. Floyd has beat many excellent fighters, I hate ignorant raving fans like you.. What does Floyd beating Judah tell you? It should tell you noone else currently at welterweight holds a win as impressive, aside from perhaps Baldomir who didn't beat him nearly as convincingly, and is now fighting Floyd... But I guess nothing's good enough until he fights Margarito, even though he hasn't fought in a freaking year and a half and his only win was over Cintron who had also beat absolutely noone just like Clottey... Oh wait, he beat an old Teddy Reid, which actually puts him way above Clottey in terms of achievement.
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No you dumb ass Margaritos last fight was a few months ago against Manuel shotgun Gomez who Margarito ko'd in what under 2 minutes ::** And floyd beating a worthless Zabb doesn't say anything if you wanna argue about something than start with Floyd vs Castillo (which was a complete roberry) and is exactly what would happen to Floyd if he fought Margarito except Margarito would knock Floyd the fuck out :o
