Which of these 4 is on top?
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Which of these 4 is on top?
duran over undef Leonard IMO But the others were great too
sorry I didnt specify... Hagler Hearns was the best but the one I posted above was the most unexpected O0
cc I like the idea of the thread ;)
None of them. Leonard over Hagler was the most impressive. Leonard comes back and outsmarts the baddest middleweight on the planet.
beg to differ but I hear ya... That was a great!!! CC for the memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Yeah I was thinking that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Besides that, I don't know, maybe Hearns destroying Duran, just the way he did it, nobody handled Duran like that. Dominated both rounds and the finish was one of the greatest KO's of all time IMO.
I mean Duran came back to go 15 with Hagler at 160 and Hearns just annihalated him.
CC back at yah.Quote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
Well the way I see it is this...
... Hearns should have boxed Hagler. Mofo would have further opened gashes on Hagler's face/head with his punching power.
... Leonard should have boxed Duran. Awesome fight.
------So two of those fights were awesome just because the other fighter should have boxed,
instead they were stupid.
And the Hearns KO Duran was just sheer raw POWER "talent" that demolished Duran.
I like Leonard over Hagler because both fighters came in shape and fought their fight,
but ONE won the fight because he was smart, not because the other guy was stupid.
I think that that was Hagler's style, he was trying to be methodical, but you can't
be over-methodical against a slick boxer who flurries.
He said most impressive win, not most impressive robbery. That would be like saying Trinidad's most impressive win was his fight over Oscar. Anyways, I voted Hearns over Duran. Duran getting KOd by anyone was an impossibility, and for it to happen with one punch as early as the 2nd round was mind blowing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
this is why I love this forum!!!! No anamosity... Just guys that know boxing telling other guys they're not right... Just Kidding.... Lve all y'all ;D
Now that you mentioned that...Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I just found out my eye doctor knew Andrew Maynard, Olympic Gold Medalist
who eventually fought Hearns. She said he was just the nicest guy.
She was watching the fight and it took Hearns only one round to KO him.
She said she felt sorry for the poor fellow. heheh
Yeah, Hearns: the most powerful Welterweight of all time.
love your insightQuote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Hearns had no choice but to fight the way he did. When Hagler put the pressure on, there wasn't sh!t you could do but fight for your life. Plus, being that Hearns ran out of gas against little Leonard, I'm sure Manny Stewart and the team spent the entire training camp planning on trying to take Hagler out early, as that was his only chance to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Leonard making Duran quit was major!
Out of the above, Leonard coming back to win against Hearns.
Even though Hearns' right hand of Duran was masterful perfect right hand.
That fight is the greatest WAR ever in boxing history.Quote:
Originally Posted by skyler
If that's the case, then it takes two to tango, Hearns wanted to kill Hagler and vice versa.
It wouldn't have been otherwise. That said, Hearns could have played it "safer"
but he wanted to decapitate Hagler. He almost KO'd Hagler too, although
Hagler never admited that he was stunned first.
(((...... KO'd... I should say "Hurt" heheh Hagler and his hard head. heh.)))
Hagler to me, is a methodical fighter who happens to turns it up a gear
if you stand and trade a la Hagler vs The Beast.
Thank you. But I have to say, if I say anything good at all, it's from b.s.ing (learning) with dudes like these. hehehQuote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
Out of the 4 I voted Duran over Leonard cause no one expected that I mean you gotta think Leonard at this time was untouchable he was golden he was the most skilled fighter around. But not on that night.
The rest were great too.
Hearns always had a punchers chance but you didn't think it could happen and it did.
I went with Hagler KO Hearns in 3.
It was the damn best 3 rounds of two fighters who just said phuk it and threw caution to the wind. I loved that fight.
If Hearns never had a glass chin he could have been the super welterweight of all time imo.
Hagler knocking Hearns out really REALLY did it for me.
Not so sure that that will ever die out for me. Just an incredible match up.
Definetely not Duran-Leonard. Simply because Leonard conciously fought him flat-footed to prove a point and still almost won. Had Leonard fought the way he did in the second fight, the way he always fights, he'd have beaten Duran at a canter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samson3000
We're talking about a mover like Leonard standing his ground against someone like Duran. Not impresive at all on Duran's part. Very much in the same way that Chris Byrd wouldn't be nearly as effective if he decided to stand and trade.
Still amazes me why anyone gives Duran so much credit for that win.
Leonard consciously fought flat-footed. He has stated that several times and if you watch the fight you can clearly see it. The second fight was Leonard fighting his usual fight and not getting involved in any macho games. He moved and boxed and Duran could not cope. Had he decided not to stand and trade in the first fight, there's not a chance, in my eyes, that Leonard would have lost. The fact that leonard almost won while standing his ground just proves how unimpressive Duran's victory was.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Duran beating Leonard for me.
He was moving up in weight & he forced a boxer & one of the finest welterweights ever into a street fight.
Brilliant stuff from Roberto.
Shame he wimped out in the rematch, to spoil all his great work in the first fight.
I voted Leonard coming from behind to stop Hearns because he showed that night....along with all the skills, charisma etc he had a champions heart!
Gimme a break. Whenever a man defeats an undefeated, favored, #1 p4p fighter in the world, in the prime of his youth, saying it isn't impressive only points out the fact what a hater you are ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
He didn't force him into it. Leonard said in an interview prior to the first Duran fight that he was going to fight him flat-footed. He was true to his word and he lost the fight. He then said, in a light-hearted moment, when interviewed by, I believe, the same person, that he would not be fighting him flat-footed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntax Error
A hater? I'm not a Duran hater. It's fact that Leonard said before the first fight that he would fight Duran toe to toe. It's a measure of your inability to engage in a proper discussion that you would label someone a hater for stating an opinion backed up by indisputable facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Here's one link I could find, but I believe the full quote was from Sugar Ray Leonard: Beyond The Glory or a documentary similar to that. Perhps the Legendary Nights series, although that didn't cover Leonard-Duran.
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzfo...?t=1118&page=2
"Depends who, if you have seen Leonard fights you should know that he was a dancer. Leonard said before fight to journalist that he will fight flat-footed and knock-out Duran. And he tried just that. Saying that Duran forced Leonard to fight flat-footed is pretty dumb statement.
About Duran being stronger than Leonard, i don't think that those who really knew how good Duran was thought that Leonard has chance if he fights inside.
No doubt that Ferdie Pacheco & (showtime?) commentators knew it, during fight they say many times similiar to:
'i just couldn't believe this. I can not believe that Leonard would come out and fight Duran like he was fighting Pete Ranzany!!'"